Ok LEVESQUE I can honestly say you've lost the plot and the point of this discussion.
Any Audiophile can OBVIOUSLY see our space is limited and therefore our equipment is not performing under optimal conditions. You seem relentless in trying to compare your system/room with ours and it's starting to bore me :Z . Again anybody can see from your pics that you are in the fortunate position of hearing your equipment in ideal conditions. We never said that nor did we ever claim that! All we've said is that in our OPINION (And negating any other relationships be they Room acoustics, Projector/TV comparisons, Link comparisons and whatever else you've come up with) the Marantz has the better Video/Audio compared to the A11. As for our setup, making personal comments about it's deficiencies (Or anyones for that matter) is just not on in this forum. Have you ever seen Sithlord or myself belittle somebody elses equipment here? We wouldn't dream of doing it! Everyone has there own passions, and means to obtain their 'dream' system. If somebody goes out and spends $5000 on their entire setup who are we to question that or consider them inferior? I detest class based comments and I just won't tolerate it (Nor will the moderator).
I'll try to answer the rest of your questions:
- No we don't have a DVI connection. No the Hitachi 57" Rear Projection TV doesn't have a DVI connection. Yes it is capable of 720 and 1080. Yes it does 480 to HD upconversion.
- The native reoslution of our display is 480 I believe. Not sure if on DVD/Component source it's doing any upconversion to 720/1080. I doubt it but then I can't be sure.
- Comparison to 1:1 pixel mapping? Lost me there.
- No I don't think an analog TV can show what a Digital DVI Player can do. Already explained that - we don't have a digital capable connector on the display. We will with whatever projector we get.
- Yes we compared the both players in the Analog section (We have no choice due to lack of digital connection). Marantz is superior hence the reason for our change (As well as the bugs).
- No we don't think comparing 2 players using an RPTV is the best way to compare two players. Would you like to buy us something that allows us to compare in the digital domain?
- No we don't think using a Digital player using a digital connector on an Analog player is the best way to compare a DVD player nor is it the optimal way. I've already explained this due to lack of digital connection. What I have heard is the DVI connector on the A11 connected to a digital capable projector was 'awful' - straight from our Audio guy who knows more about this stuff than you or I put together. Until I see it for myself I cannot comment on either Firewire connectivity for the Audio or DVI for the video. Until then there's no need to keep repeating yourself - we don't have it.
- Do we know if your room is acoustically treated/isoltated from your house? Ummm why would we? What are you - some kind of Audio HT celebrity or something? Congratulations if it is *shrugs*. We intend doing the same thing but aren't in that position yet. When we are we'll repost an evaluation. The room is still in the planning stage. Be assured it will be done properly along with 3-Phase power. Until then - no point in discussing it.
- Do we know if a room adds negatively to the soundstage? If you were asking a 10 year-old I'd say no. You're not and yes we do. Why these repeated basic questions - are you keeping score here? Ok you have some knowledge, congratulations. I see no point in trying to highlight knowledge deficiencies. If there were any (Firewire) I've already investigated it and again cannot say 'yes' or 'no' to you because we don't have the facilities to compare.
- We didn't make any BOLD statements about the player. We posted a comment about 2 players tested under the SAME conditions. Using your rationale car manufacturers would NEVER loan their cars to journalists to test in ALL conditions. A good product perfoms well under ALL conditions not just OPTIMAL conditions. We tested (I will admit not totally objectively because hell - who has the measuring equipment that real reviewers have? If you have them again congratulations! Gees :roll. And lack of seriousness? Huh? How serious do you have to be to simply have an opinion that Product A was/is better then Product B? Last time I saw this was ONE of our hobbies not a thesis being written to earn a degree :W
Ok this has really gone way to far and you're obviously a very passionate individual who loves his equipment and - whatever, words fail me here. Now if we were to discuss Artifical Intelligence, Structured and Object Oriented code practices, experimental logic branching, CMOS programming in Assembler, Binary Encryption techniques you might be on equal footing with me in my REAL job. HT is a hobby - no more and no less. It's quite apparent it means a LOT more to you than it does me.
So if you want to get really serious I suggest you download some white papers from Denon and Marantz and knock yourself out. For me I'm happy to test with what we HAVE and not try to extrapolate on testing methods we cannot meet.
This is THE last post on the subject :roll:
P.S John Holmes our sincere apologies if these posts have tarnished this great forum. It was never our intention to turn this into a slinging match. We just love our HT and simply enjoy helping others enjoy theirs.
Any Audiophile can OBVIOUSLY see our space is limited and therefore our equipment is not performing under optimal conditions. You seem relentless in trying to compare your system/room with ours and it's starting to bore me :Z . Again anybody can see from your pics that you are in the fortunate position of hearing your equipment in ideal conditions. We never said that nor did we ever claim that! All we've said is that in our OPINION (And negating any other relationships be they Room acoustics, Projector/TV comparisons, Link comparisons and whatever else you've come up with) the Marantz has the better Video/Audio compared to the A11. As for our setup, making personal comments about it's deficiencies (Or anyones for that matter) is just not on in this forum. Have you ever seen Sithlord or myself belittle somebody elses equipment here? We wouldn't dream of doing it! Everyone has there own passions, and means to obtain their 'dream' system. If somebody goes out and spends $5000 on their entire setup who are we to question that or consider them inferior? I detest class based comments and I just won't tolerate it (Nor will the moderator).
I'll try to answer the rest of your questions:
- No we don't have a DVI connection. No the Hitachi 57" Rear Projection TV doesn't have a DVI connection. Yes it is capable of 720 and 1080. Yes it does 480 to HD upconversion.
- The native reoslution of our display is 480 I believe. Not sure if on DVD/Component source it's doing any upconversion to 720/1080. I doubt it but then I can't be sure.
- Comparison to 1:1 pixel mapping? Lost me there.
- No I don't think an analog TV can show what a Digital DVI Player can do. Already explained that - we don't have a digital capable connector on the display. We will with whatever projector we get.
- Yes we compared the both players in the Analog section (We have no choice due to lack of digital connection). Marantz is superior hence the reason for our change (As well as the bugs).
- No we don't think comparing 2 players using an RPTV is the best way to compare two players. Would you like to buy us something that allows us to compare in the digital domain?
- No we don't think using a Digital player using a digital connector on an Analog player is the best way to compare a DVD player nor is it the optimal way. I've already explained this due to lack of digital connection. What I have heard is the DVI connector on the A11 connected to a digital capable projector was 'awful' - straight from our Audio guy who knows more about this stuff than you or I put together. Until I see it for myself I cannot comment on either Firewire connectivity for the Audio or DVI for the video. Until then there's no need to keep repeating yourself - we don't have it.
- Do we know if your room is acoustically treated/isoltated from your house? Ummm why would we? What are you - some kind of Audio HT celebrity or something? Congratulations if it is *shrugs*. We intend doing the same thing but aren't in that position yet. When we are we'll repost an evaluation. The room is still in the planning stage. Be assured it will be done properly along with 3-Phase power. Until then - no point in discussing it.
- Do we know if a room adds negatively to the soundstage? If you were asking a 10 year-old I'd say no. You're not and yes we do. Why these repeated basic questions - are you keeping score here? Ok you have some knowledge, congratulations. I see no point in trying to highlight knowledge deficiencies. If there were any (Firewire) I've already investigated it and again cannot say 'yes' or 'no' to you because we don't have the facilities to compare.
- We didn't make any BOLD statements about the player. We posted a comment about 2 players tested under the SAME conditions. Using your rationale car manufacturers would NEVER loan their cars to journalists to test in ALL conditions. A good product perfoms well under ALL conditions not just OPTIMAL conditions. We tested (I will admit not totally objectively because hell - who has the measuring equipment that real reviewers have? If you have them again congratulations! Gees :roll. And lack of seriousness? Huh? How serious do you have to be to simply have an opinion that Product A was/is better then Product B? Last time I saw this was ONE of our hobbies not a thesis being written to earn a degree :W
Ok this has really gone way to far and you're obviously a very passionate individual who loves his equipment and - whatever, words fail me here. Now if we were to discuss Artifical Intelligence, Structured and Object Oriented code practices, experimental logic branching, CMOS programming in Assembler, Binary Encryption techniques you might be on equal footing with me in my REAL job. HT is a hobby - no more and no less. It's quite apparent it means a LOT more to you than it does me.
So if you want to get really serious I suggest you download some white papers from Denon and Marantz and knock yourself out. For me I'm happy to test with what we HAVE and not try to extrapolate on testing methods we cannot meet.
This is THE last post on the subject :roll:
P.S John Holmes our sincere apologies if these posts have tarnished this great forum. It was never our intention to turn this into a slinging match. We just love our HT and simply enjoy helping others enjoy theirs.
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