Is there such a thing? (As an out-board Sub conroller for Volume, phasing etc?)

[Clive]

As an out-board Sub conroller for Volume, phasing etc? Someone told me today that are trying this theory that if he sets is receivers' subwoofer setting to "No" and pipe the Sub line directly from the DVD player into a sub controller then he'd get a more round bass around the room.

Is there any advantage/disadvantage to this? Is there such a machine available to suit this purpose?




CLIVE




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[Burke Strickland]

Proper phase and volume are important in getting the best performance out of your sub and having it effectively blend in with the rest of the system. A number of higher end subs have controls for those built in. I am not aware of any kind of stand-alone processor devoted solely to those functions. (I'm guessing the market for them would be somewhat limited.) It also seems to me that rather than continuing to theorize about the results of an investment that may not even be possible, and would add uneeded complexity to the system if it were, upgrading to a more capable sub with those features built in would yield the results your friend is seeking.

Good luck -

Burke

[Rock Dog]

I don't think it handles "phasing" issues per se. But a product that has gotten a lot of attention for being the "be all, end all" to Bass Management. Is the Outlaw ICBM.

Check it out here. Outlaw ICBM The pulldown menu points to specs, manuals, other pics and so on...




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[Andrew Pratt]

Paradigms X20 and X30 might do what you need if memory serves me right

[Pat]

Clive, Pr@ is right

Paradigm Control Units

I am using an x-30 to get some control back after the signal goes through my Behringer Feedback Destroyer.

Something just doesn't sound right about your friends concept.




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[Burke Strickland]

Paradigms X20 and X30 might do what you need if memory serves me right

Looks like one of those might just do it! (I wonder if Paradigm sells most of those to owners of other brands who wish they had bought a Paradigm in the first place? :>)

The question then becomes -- how much do they cost and would that incremental cost be worth it compared to upgrading the sub itself? If you are starting out with a great sounding sub that just needs tweaking, then adding additional useful controls for it is a different decision than trying to "band-aid" a solution for a lesser sub that doesn't really have enough "oomph" to sound the what you want it to -- even if the add-on unit is the same device.

Burke

[Pat]

I bought my x-30 used for $95. IIRC new ones are around $130

Since my sub is DIY there were no controls to begin with




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[Burke Strickland]

Since my sub is DIY there were no controls to begin with

Ahah! DIY was my blind spot in this area of inquiry. Of course, DIY'ers would have a need for the kind of controls under discussion here, and from the volume of posts I see various places about DIY subs, there are a LOT of folks doing it, so the potential market is larger than I had considered when thinking about manufactured subs. And the price seems reasonable for useful controls from a high quality manufacturer.

Since I lucked into an incredible deal on a Velodyne FSR-18 at the time they were rebadging it as the HGS-18 and hiking its retail price by about 50%, (thus unloading the "old" ones for a substantially discounted, although still substantial, price) and have found to be true my dealer's admonition that it would probably end up being the only sub I'd ever need, (so I've never been tempted to seek other alternatives), I keep forgetting that many resourceful HT hobbiests get great results by "rolling their own" sub. Paradigm obviously DIDN'T "forget" even though they sell a lot of the really good manufactured ones. :>) I'm glad they offer the control boxes as a reasonably priced option.

Burke

[Kevin P]

SVS has a unit made by Marchand Electronics that does what you're looking for. They call it the SVS Amp Interface and it has a subsonic filter, level (with up to 18db gain, for connecting pro amps, etc.) and phase adjustments on it. It's geared toward those using passive or DIY subs.

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[Clive]

My apololgy for a L8 response. Yes the customer (I work in a small A/V store part time) built his own subs. Now before he finished them he was running his system with the settings for sub on "NO" and he reported that he got good bass response from his JBLs. He was interested in preserving those responses while still trying to intergrate the two subs which led to the question. His HT is dedicated.




CLIVE




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