HDMI 1.3a receivers coming out

[B&W 700 Guy]

Jack, thank you for posting that excellent link. One of the most valuable benefits of internet discussion fora is their potential for helping the individual consumer to cut through the fog of technobabble and misinformation created by marketing departments. It can cut both ways, of course, but on balance we're better off for them.

Before you believe every thing you read by the people who push the Evils of HDMI 1.3, YOU BETTER CHECK OUT DTS-HD MA only being decoded in the receiver :E . It may change in the future, but I would stay away of anybody telling you about Munshark of 1.3 :T

[EAmin]

Before you believe every thing you read by the people who push the Evils of HDMI 1.3, YOU BETTER CHECK OUT DTS-HD MA only being decoded in the receiver :E . It may change in the future, but I would stay away of anybody telling you about Munshark of 1.3 :T

It sounds like everything will still be decoded in the player and the pre-pro because all BD and HD-DVD discs will be authored in Advanced Mode, which cannot be decoded in the pre-pro alone.

This was in the article the following article: http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh..._Necessary/853 posted by Jack Gilvey (see earlier posts).

I thought like you do. But it sounds like there ain't much to 1.3.

[sirbogey]

great post. thanks for sharing!

[mattburk]

fine article, but it did leave out sacd audio issues with hdmi 1.1

[Jack Gilvey]

fine article, but it did leave out sacd audio issues with hdmi 1.1

I think it mainly is trying to deal with what people are expecting from 1.3 vs. what the actual facts are. For instance, it "supports" Deep Color...but current formats don't. And decoding to LPCM is still confused with D/A conversion by many.
As far as SACD, 1.2 added support for raw DSD, and 1.1 supports LPCM transmission for a DSD converting player, so I'm not sure it was relevant to that article.

[B&W 700 Guy]

It sounds like everything will still be decoded in the player and the pre-pro because all BD and HD-DVD discs will be authored in Advanced Mode, which cannot be decoded in the pre-pro alone.

This was in the article the following article: http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh..._Necessary/853 posted by Jack Gilvey (see earlier posts).

I thought like you do. But it sounds like there ain't much to 1.3.

Incorrect on DTS HD MA!!!!!

This is what they don't want you to read :E
Chris Boylan's quote from article...

"DTS-HD Master Audio requires either an HDMI 1.3 connection from the player to a compatible surround processor (the demo I sat through used a new Pioneer AVR), or a player with a built-in processor, and analog patch cords going into the 7.1 pre-amp inputs on an AVR."

Here is more from Chris Boylan, starts at #835

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=789994&page=28

Again, it may change in the future....

[EAmin]

You may be right BW700 about the decoding.

More important, what I got out of that article, is there is really no big change in sound quality with 1.3 whether it's DTS-HD MA/DolbyTrueHD decoded in the pre-pro or sent from the HD source...it's all gonna be converted to same uncompressed PCM. And it's gonna sound the same whether it's MA or DTS-HD.

Of course, it's going to change in the future. Everything does. But right here, right now, I'm not seeing the value of 1.3 or DTS-HD MA.

[B&W 700 Guy]

DTS HD MA at this time is only decoded in the Receiver/prepro

I'm not seeing the value of 1.3 or DTS-HD MA.

How do you know till you listen to it? And why has it not been mentioned on this thread by people who know this to be true?

When you read the thread from the AVS link above, you first get the "That was misinterpreted-The person who wrote the column doest know what he is talking about". Then the author explains what he was told at CEDIA. Then you get "I don't need DTS HD MA or DTS is worthless" posts.

Again, I will wait till I can listen to MA. Anybody who argues this point in my mind has a hidden Agenda. But most of the people who I have seen with the Anti 1.3 agenda steers clear of the MA revaluation and will keep posting the misleading information.

[Jack Gilvey]

More important, what I got out of that article, is there is really no big change in sound quality with 1.3 whether it's DTS-HD MA/DolbyTrueHD decoded in the pre-pro or sent from the HD source...it's all gonna be converted to same uncompressed PCM.

That's the idea behind the lossless codecs, they result in a bit-for-bit identical copy of the original. And it doesn't matter where this unpacking happens, as DTS shows on their site.

[B&W 700 Guy]

Remember if everything goes as seen, the MA decoding will be done in the Receiver.

[maddog]

There is a guy over on AVS who just got an A35 and he says it's outputing bitstream to his HDMI 1.3 AVR. He has picks to prove it. These are HD DVD's, which are authored in advanced mode.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=915405

[Chris D]

Yeah, the A35 is supposed to do that, and the new receivers are receiving bitstream over 1.3. So that doesn't surprise me--I should be picking up my 1.3 receiver and A35 in just a few days.

[Jack Gilvey]

There is a guy over on AVS who just got an A35 and he says it's outputing bitstream to his HDMI 1.3 AVR. He has picks to prove it. These are HD DVD's, which are authored in advanced mode.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=915405

Finally! The lights to go along with the sound!

I'd like to grab one of the new players just to try 24fps on my projector, see what that's all about.

[Alloroc]

Getting back to the original theme of this thread, here's the first HDMI 1.3a receiver from Marantz...

http://us.marantz.com/Products/2204.asp#

[Hdale85]

Yikes 2 grand.