pre amp help

[Hallett]

Hello guys i have been looking at a pre amp for my new sys this is what i have so far a new bryston 4b-sst amp. a new pair of 804's a rsp1066
to use but was told it won't sound to good in two channel mode so i'm looking
at at this pre Classe Cp 47.5 Pre Amp will this work well with the bryston
amp. i'm hoping to get this sys hooked up soon i'm tired of looking at it in
boxes. thanks for all your help.

[Hallett]

Bump

[Phil Rose]

Get the stuff out of the boxes and start listening!!! Decide later if you really need/want to invest in a 2-channel pre-amp. See the other active thread on this forum http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=22423 for some recommendations.

[wkhanna]

I also have the 1066 pre-pro, which is fine for most multi-ch work in my system. But until I recently added a separate 2-ch pre for music, I didn’t realize what a difference it could make. I had heard the 1066 wasn’t noted for 2-ch performance, but it’s better than my previous equipment was in that respect.

Integrating a 2-ch pre to an HT set-up was fairly simple with my equipment, and gives you the best of both worlds, so to speak. Especially if like me, you spend more time listening to music than watching audio DVD’s or movies.

My best friend has a nice Bryston pre with a Bryston power amp, and it is one of the systems I use as a reference for judging most others.

And yes, what are you waiting for? Hook it up now! Then if you can audition some pre's at home you will be able to make a choice based on what you hear.
Additionally, after you hear what a big difference the 2-ch pre makes, it will easily justify the expenditure.

[Victor]

Here is one of the better pre-amps I know off,

http://www.morrisonaudio.com/morrison_preamp.htm

It will set you back about $700 and it is 'cleaner' then anything out there including the BP-26.

Regards,
Victor

[Armand]

I hear that the Brystons match well with a tube preamp if you want to go that route. If it's a HT system, the Morrison sounds good.

[Hallett]

Hello guys i just wanted to thank you all for the advice i have been reading up on pre amps trying to decide on a good one for the bryston amp. i will look into
the bryston pre amp looking at others like the modwright & classe i'm very
new at this i just want to do it right the first time. thanks again Bob.

[comeup]

Integrating a 2-ch pre to an HT set-up was fairly simple with my will easily justify the expenditure.

Wkhanna, how do you integrate a 2 channel pre into your surround setup? I have two separete systems.

[Briz vegas]

804s - don't forget to put a Conrad Johnson PV14 or PV15 tube preamp on your "must try" list. CJ is nice gear. I picked up a run out model PV14Ls2 recently and think it is a very nice match with the 804s. Some say every system need tubes somewhere, I was sceptical, now I am a convert - particularly if the tubes are in a pre amp. Ht bypass is a useful feature also.

For those that do not know the HT bypass switch sets the pre amp to unity gain so the signal passes through like it almost isnt there (nothing is completely transparent).

5.1 - Receiver pre outs R & L, or the pre outs from your pre/pro is plugged in to the HT input on the 2 channel pre-> power amp->speakers. Press the HT Bypass (or theatre on the CJ) and the pre passes the signal through.

2 channel - CD analogue out to pre ->power->speaker as usual. Set theatre switch off.

Works a treat so you get no compromise 2 channel sound.

[alebonau]

804s - don't forget to put a Conrad Johnson PV14 or PV15 tube preamp on your "must try" list. CJ is nice gear. I picked up a run out model PV14Ls2 recently and think it is a very nice match with the 804s. Some say every system need tubes somewhere, I was sceptical, now I am a convert - particularly if the tubes are in a pre amp. Ht bypass is a useful feature also.

For those that do not know the HT bypass switch sets the pre amp to unity gain so the signal passes through like it almost isnt there (nothing is completely transparent).

5.1 - Receiver pre outs R & L, or the pre outs from your pre/pro is plugged in to the HT input on the 2 channel pre-> power amp->speakers. Press the HT Bypass (or theatre on the CJ) and the pre passes the signal through.

2 channel - CD analogue out to pre ->power->speaker as usual. Set theatre switch off.

Works a treat so you get no compromise 2 channel sound.

certainyl a 2h pre with ht bypass or ht-direct really does make it very easy to integrate both a 2ch and ht system. if yoru 2ch pre does nto have a ht-bypass/ht-direct feature. you can still do as I suggested back here

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=21896

ah easily done. you can have the best of both 2ch and ht. And a system many people use.

you hook up cdp to pre-amp to the power amps driving your mains.

from your ht pre-pro/avr you run a L&R RCA's from pre-out Front L & R to an input on the 2ch pre amp.

leaving the 2ch pre-amp vol level at your typical 2ch listening position you then select the input on the 2ch pre you ran the signal from the ht amp to. And calibrate levels for HT.

for 2ch listenign you just use the cdp, 2ch pre and power amps as you would.

For ht you just need to select the designated input on the 2ch pre you hooked upt ot yoru HT avr/pre-pro. And need to make sure you put the vol knob on the 2ch pre back to the postion you calibrated ht levels at.

An easy way to 'remember' the postion to put the 2ch vol knob at for ht use is maybe make a very small pencil mark at the appropriate spot, discrete and not noticeable.

So there you go ht and 2ch and setup so you can enjoy both uncompromised and with the 2 systems combined.

to remove the need to have to put the 2ch pre's vol knob in a designated position for ht, an alternative is to use a 2ch pre with ht-input/bypass... many have these now eg ones from acoustic research, krell, primare, musical fidelity, moon etc etc.

either way 2ch and ht without compromise !