Bryston - B&W

**sikoniko** · 22 January 2007, 06:55 Monday

I had the bryston SP2 pre/pro. I thought I liked it until I swapped it out for the classe ssp-600. The ssp was everything the bryston was, but more depth, more image, more soundstage, more clearness and no fatigue.

**Hallett** · 22 January 2007, 09:24 Monday

Wow i always thought the bryston was one of the best was the classe
that mutch better. mine is still in the box i just need a rack & cables
i might need to trade it in. :W

**scanido** · 22 January 2007, 09:38 Monday

I used to have an Arcam AVP700 and Bryston 4B-SST. The sound was not really convincing as i have imagined it to be. It may have been the Bryston, but i wouldn't know anymore as i have recently sold it and the Arcam.

I'm saving for either a Chord, Classe, or McIntosh setup.

Steve

**sikoniko** · 22 January 2007, 21:22 Monday

Originally posted by Hallett

Wow i always thought the bryston was one of the best was the classe
that mutch better. mine is still in the box i just need a rack & cables
i might need to trade it in. :W

Keep in mind that this is my opinion based upon my own experiences. To get the classe that has the 2 channel pre built in, it is a substantial jump in cost. I believe the cost is justified. I am waiting on a classe amp.

When I used to listen with the bryston, it was nice, but I was always in a hurry and could only listen for short periods. Now with the classe, I can listen for hours and not get tired or bored or anxious. I just sit, relax and enjoy the music.

**sirbogey** · 24 January 2007, 10:26 Wednesday

I was about to pull the trigger and auditioned pretty much all of the Bryston amps and pre/pros 2 months ago. Brystons didn't convince me at all, sounded the same, very similar, if not slightly worse then/as my Rotel setup. The 14B was the purest, but still very harsh and metallic. But again that's just my opinion. I was very disappointed myself and can imagine that those amps are not suitable for all the setups. The latest Classe amp and pre/pro matches my Piega speakers extremely well and the combination of those two is mind-blowing. I think finding a synergy like that is the ultimate goal. I'm saving for a 2 channel classe setup at the moment...

**sirbogey** · 24 January 2007, 10:29 Wednesday

Originally posted by sikoniko

The ssp was everything the bryston was, but more depth, more image, more soundstage, more clearness and no fatigue.

can only second that!

**joetama** · 24 January 2007, 12:27 Wednesday

I have heard the Bryston stuff and the Classe stuff...

I have to say that you really can't get too much better than Classe and B&W unless you are really wanting to shell out some cash-o-la...

Just my opinion...

**DM3000 Owner** · 24 January 2007, 14:44 Wednesday

Oh man. Bryston monoblocks were recommended here and I bought a pair fro my 801's. Looks like I better sell them.

If I buy Classe amps will they go out of style next year? They are kind of pricy.

**joetama** · 24 January 2007, 15:11 Wednesday

The monoblocks might be fine.... Just have to play around and find out for yourself. You might like it!

**Race Car Driver** · 25 January 2007, 10:20 Thursday

I like my Bryston 7bs on my 802s.

Im sure I could do better, but at the time the price was right

The monos sure are beasts... Gonna have to upgrade my wiring, lights like to dim on heavy loud bass notes

**DM3000 Owner** · 25 January 2007, 20:42 Thursday

Originally posted by Race Car Driver

I like my Bryston 7bs on my 802s.

Im sure I could do better, but at the time the price was right

The monos sure are beasts... Gonna have to upgrade my wiring, lights like to dim on heavy loud bass notes

I was actually kidding. Forums are very moody. I have no plans of getting rid on my Brystons or my Nautilus (Gasp!) speakers. I also really think that my 20 year old DM3000's sound really good.

**Race Car Driver** · 26 January 2007, 11:42 Friday

Originally posted by DM3000 Owner

I was actually kidding. Forums are very moody. I have no plans of getting rid on my Brystons or my Nautilus (Gasp!) speakers. I also really think that my 20 year old DM3000's sound really good.

I know you were, I chuckled at your post.
I still have a hankering for a pair of big krells. ;x(

**RNKC** · 26 January 2007, 15:30 Friday

I had a Bryston setup with my N802 but over the years I've moved to Mark Levinson. There's no question that Bryston is very good, but to my ears Levinson is better. I find that I get much more detail, a better soundstage and much better depth with Levinson than I ever did with Bryston.

**DM3000 Owner** · 27 January 2007, 13:49 Saturday

Originally posted by RNKC

I had a Bryston setup with my N802 but over the years I've moved to Mark Levinson. There's no question that Bryston is very good, but to my ears Levinson is better. I find that I get much more detail, a better soundstage and much better depth with Levinson than I ever did with Bryston.

Which Levinson Amps are you using and which Brystons did you have?

I went from a tubes to a Musical Fidelity preamp and the Brystons and I do not have any harshness or grain that I can detect. I also prefer these components to tubes (I got tired of chasing 40 year odl tubes and having problems).

Maybe I will try something much more expensive and decide that I must have it, but the original comment was that the Bryston amps were harsh, which I have not found to be the case. I would guess that it is a component matching issue. FWIW, the MF preamp is supposed to be "tube like" (I know, I remember in the 80's when every component was described as "state of the art"). Anyway, the MF pre does not have a harsh top and, but I have heard that Bryston preamps can be harsh. I have never heard one so I cannot comment.

**Fife** · 28 January 2007, 01:29 Sunday

Originally posted by RNKC

I had a Bryston setup with my N802 but over the years I've moved to Mark Levinson. There's no question that Bryston is very good, but to my ears Levinson is better. I find that I get much more detail, a better soundstage and much better depth with Levinson than I ever did with Bryston.

I agree. My friend changed his 6B SST to ML 23.5 and the sound is much better.

**BTB** · 30 January 2007, 08:47 Tuesday

Originally posted by joetama

I have to say that you really can't get too much better than Classe and B&W unless you are really wanting to shell out some cash-o-la...

Huh?? You must get your Classe at the special Classe discount store? :lol:

Anyway, I'm just pleased some guys had the "nerve" to openly state their honest opinions about one of "those" brands that are normally only spoken of in hallowed terms.

Guys... thanks for your honesty... just beware, the Krell police might be coming for you, just in case you have any other "honest opinions" based on the evidence of your own ears.

**moonlightdrive21** · 02 February 2007, 13:09 Friday

Fellas:

I have a 10 year old Classe CA200 power amp and CP50 preamp to go with my B&W 802D's. Are the newer Classe electronics dramatically better, thereby worth a very expensive upgrade? I know the way to judge is to listen for myself, but I wanted to know what your opinions are if you are familar with the Classe stuff.

Thanks,
Dave

**Eliav** · 02 February 2007, 13:34 Friday

Hi
I recommend posting this question to the local "club Classe" , I am sure you'll find an educated answer to this question
Eliav

**amdan** · 16 February 2007, 01:37 Friday

My system sounds great now. It turned out that I had more than one issue.

The harshness problem was fixed by changing the power cord on my CD player!

The imaging problem was due to my interconnects, speaker cables and rectifiers on the tube pre-amp!

The system sounds detailed and smooth once the above was corrected.

I am happy that the issues are fixed and not happy that logical reasoning did not help.

**DM3000 Owner** · 16 February 2007, 10:28 Friday

Originally posted by amdan

My system sounds great now. It turned out that I had more than one issue.

The harshness problem was fixed by changing the power cord on my CD player!

The imaging problem was due to my interconnects, speaker cables and rectifiers on the tube pre-amp!

The system sounds detailed and smooth once the above was corrected.

I am happy that the issues are fixed and not happy that logical reasoning did not help.

It's too late. You opened the door and it cannot be shut. If you continue to listen to your Brystons you will surely begin to suffer from Waardenburg syndrome, Meniere's disease, Acoustic neuroma, Labyrinthitis and wax blockage.

I suggest either throwing them in your pool or dragging them behind your car when you drive to work. My monoblocks, named Santino and Fredo, were handled individually. One was shot 247 times at a toll both and the other never returned from a fishing trip on Lake Tahoe. :E

Good luck to you!

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