Worth the upgrade from the Nat P?

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  • bbcmp1979
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 173

    #1

    Worth the upgrade from the Nat P?

    So I have sometime over the weekend to play with a 2.5way design using a 4 Rs180s-8, rs28f, and 3way design with 4 rs180s-8, tb w4, rs28f. I also did a quick comparision between the 2.5 vs NatP, 3way vs NatP, and a 3way vs 2.5way.

    Here's the SPL comparision, it is very rough as I only entered the spl values at the gridline.

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    Here's the 2.5way

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    Here's the 3way

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    Upgrading to the 2.5 ways would cost $100 worth of xover parts and enclosure material

    Upgrading to the 3ways would cost $$$ for xover parts and 4 tb w4 + enclosure material

    I'm tempted to go upgrade to the 3ways right the way but this being a hobby, i should take it one step at a time. What I really meant is waiting for a big sale for the W4???
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  • fbov
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 479

    #2
    A couple questions. (And please consider a logarithmic axis; linear looks funny until you realize it's linear)

    You have lots of design data on the 2.5-and 3-way. Are they your designs? I don't see any mention of measurements, and you talk about plotting "values at the gridline." That leads me to ask if this is a theoretical exercise, based on modeling results? Any chance the data's from your actual drivers?

    All 3 designs are quite accurate (+/- 2dB). What I'm getting at is that when designs are this close, driver variation in T/S parameters could flip the order. In addition, both the 2.5- and 3-way have an overall downward FR trend compared with NatPs. They would sound different, but if they're your designs, that's when the tweaking begins.

    The biggest question is your goal; more sound or better sound? You seem to be looking at one of each.
    - 4 drivers will play louder than 2, but unless you use lots of BSC, and/or a downward FR trend, the tweeter will limit overall sensitivity.
    - a lot of folks think drivers sound better when producing a narrower range.

    Have fun,
    Frank

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