Acoustics - The broad brush approach

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Pieter
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 219

    #1

    Acoustics - The broad brush approach

    Let’s see if there’s any consensus about this.

    For HT we want the front wall absorptive as low and high in frequency as possible. The rear wall diffusive and the side walls a mixed bag of diffusion and absorption. The ceiling mostly diffusive with a touch of absorption and the floor absorptive.

    For 2-channel music the front portion of the room should be lively and diffusive, floor to walls to ceiling and the rear end of the room absorptive.

    For multi-channel music the ….?

    Bass traps applied mostly to corners and if you have the know-how, panel traps and Helmholtz resonators where appropriate in frequency and location.

    I’m not stating, I’m asking. Wish for those who’ve actually put saw to wood and felt the itch of fiberglass in their boxers to respond.
  • Patt
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 922

    #2
    Originally posted by Pieter
    Wish for those who’ve actually put saw to wood and felt the itch of fiberglass in their boxers to respond.
    Hi Pieter,
    I have the hands on in a general construction field but not in Home Theatre. Here are some dot com places I've run across in the past that I have bookmarked thinking it may help me.

    Foambymail.
    Acousticsfirst.
    Realtraps.
    Acousticalsolutionsinc.
    Acousticsciencescorporation.
    Questacousticalinteriors.
    Auralex.

    Good Luck with your project and if you have any specific remodeling questions I "may" be able to contribute.
    ......Pat

    Comment

    • Pieter
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2005
      • 219

      #3
      Patt, thanks for the response.

      Trouble is due to visiting those sites. There's too much conflicting advice, whom am I to believe?

      Why not ask the folks here what they've done or are doing? What do the results sound like?

      See if there's consensus.

      Hope we're not in for, "Red boxers are the only ones to prevent the itch. They'll ga right thru them fensie green uns." No, not that "itch"!

      Comment

      • Patt
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2005
        • 922

        #4
        There is so much information out there it is hard to know where to start. I didn't mean to make it harder to figure out.....just thought you could find something of interest.

        My only experience is with my two rooms with stereos in them. The room with the most heavily damped furniture drapery flooring walls and ceiling is the best. The one with hard walls and ceiling lots of glass and leather furniture isn't so great.

        It really does make a difference if the surfaces are reflective or absorptive(sp?).
        ......Pat

        Comment

        • Kingdaddy
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2004
          • 355

          #5
          I've done a lot of research and it has lead me to believe that the Realtraps site has the better info. They promote broadband absorption for the whole room in stages (shown on mini traps install guide). Last thing to do is worry about diffusion, and maybe not at all.


          I'm trying a DIY version of these, should know the results in a few weeks.
          My Center Channel Project

          Comment

          • ThomasW
            Ultra Senior Member
            • Aug 2000
            • 10980

            #6
            Pieter,

            I've used DIY traps/panels for a decade or more. They're cheap to build and work well. I also have oriental rugs hung on some of the walls.

            For the best multi-channel most of the time one wants a acoustically 'dead' room. Obviously that's not the case for 2 channel.

            For most people a mix of traps and diffusers is the best bet.

            IB subwoofer FAQ page


            "Complicated equipment and light reflectors and various other items of hardware are enough, to my mind, to prevent the birdie from coming out." ...... Henri Cartier-Bresson

            Comment

            • Azeke
              Super Senior Member
              • Mar 2003
              • 2123

              #7
              Good information gentlemen, I prefer the DIY method.

              Thanks for the link Thomas.

              Regards,

              Azeke

              Comment

              • Pieter
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2005
                • 219

                #8
                Mike, Realtraps is a very informative site. What I appreciate is Ethan’s sense of ethics. Even though Realtraps is a commercial endeavour, he is liberal to the extent of supplying plans to build your own traps. One of the first sites that made me aware of the acoustic anomalies inherent in rooms and ways of alleviating this.

                Thomas, when I get to the stage of actually constructing acoustic treatment I’ll keep your link in mind. Thanks.

                Thomas, your second statement is the one causing the trouble, and the reason I started this post.

                Do you agree with the following, “With 2-channel we rely on the room to create a diffuse sound in order to recreate the sense of space and ambience of the recording.”

                And, “The contribution of the room with multi-channel should be minimal in order for the speakers to create the sense of space and localization necessary.”

                Just a wordy way of saying what you’ve said: “dead” for multi-channel and “not the case” for 2-channel.

                So the two requisites are mutually exclusive?

                And your third statement an attempt at compromise?

                Good, so how do we do this? Do we make the front wall absorptive and a mixed bag for the sides and rear?

                Time for me to return the favour and post a link: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=255432

                Found this after starting this post; it’s pertinent, up to ‘on the nose’, and the discussion gets lively.
                Last edited by Pieter; 09 June 2005, 03:33 Thursday.

                Comment

                Related Topics

                Collapse

                • mitch57
                  Starting to get that itch again...
                  by mitch57
                  I'm starting to get that itch again. You know... the upgrade itch...

                  I've been reading the manuals for processors and so far I have looked at the Anthem AVM 30, both Arcams, and the Halo C2. If I upgrade my current Denon 3805 I will also need a tuner.

                  I would like to...
                  07 December 2005, 00:27 Wednesday
                • Mazeroth
                  Sound absorption for windows?
                  by Mazeroth
                  The house we just purchased has windows facing the direction of a major highway (I-70), which is 7 houses down from us plus behind some trees. However, you can still hear the highway from inside the house if you're in one of the rooms that has windows that face the highway. It's not very loud but...
                  24 September 2007, 21:26 Monday
                • ThomasW
                  Kloning the Acoustica Applica DaaD traps (very long post)
                  by ThomasW
                  I stole this from a dead thread posted by 'darkmoebius' on DIY Audio. I heard the the effects of these traps in several listening rooms at the RMAF-2005 and was very impressed. The traps are really $pendy, and it seems like they could be kloned.



                  Any how, I'm researching...
                  07 October 2005, 13:36 Friday
                • theSven
                  Breaking with modern conventions - a highly musical 2-way system using an 8" woofer
                  by theSven
                  By Jon Hancock

                  This article will describe the fruits of my efforts to build a moderate sized speaker which might be moderately above average in performance for a basic two-way system. I desired a speaker like this both for my own use in secondary systems, and to fill a need for some friends, who desired fairly full range response (i.e., “it’s gotta have good bass”). Also, though I have access to a good wood shop, many potential DIY enthusiasts may not, so I hoped to use a modified...
                  31 December 2024, 17:31 Tuesday
                • DocT
                  About Acoustic Foam
                  by DocT
                  Quick question guys.

                  Is the general consensus on Owens Cornering still that it doesn't subtract from the calculated volume of internal chamber of the speaker? I utilized the stuff for my Statement II build, and wasn't worried either way, as a 20% reduction in the volume of that enclosure...
                  19 May 2016, 00:39 Thursday
                • Loading...
                • No more items.
                Working...
                  Searching...Please wait.
                  An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because you have logged in since the previous page was loaded.

                  Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                  An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired.

                  Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                  An internal error has occurred and the module cannot be displayed.
                  There are no results that meet this criteria.
                  Search Result for "|||"