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  • Chris D
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Dec 2000
    • 16877

    Dougie, that's kinda cool. I have a couple Sixaxis, so I have no need for a dualshock unless I wanted to replace one of them for a pure upgrade. Haven't had many problems with the Sixaxis.

    Ken, there's a whole stack of MGS4 editions sitting in the Anchorage Best Buy. Probably too late, but I can grab one for anyone.
    CHRIS

    Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
    - Pleasantville

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    • Hdale85
      Moderator Emeritus
      • Jan 2006
      • 16075

      Well the Sixaxis's are supposed to have issues staying connected and stuff I hear. Also sixaxis doesn't have rumble I guess to some thats not important. I only have one controller currently so I'll probably grab a Dualshock 3.

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      • Ken49r
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 312

        Thanks Chris. I'm happy with my setup so probably best I didn't know sooner.

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        • impala454
          Ultra Senior Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 3814

          Dougie, that's pretty cool, are you going to install the laser yourself? Would be interesting to see a few pics of that process.
          -Chuck

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          • Hdale85
            Moderator Emeritus
            • Jan 2006
            • 16075

            Yeah I'll be installing the laser my self along with swapping the drive with a 160gb drive I have. I've been repairing consoles lately and then reselling them I have about 3 broken Xbox 360's right now waiting on a few lasers to come sometime next week. The PS3 won't be here until end of the week probably.

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            • Chris D
              Moderator Emeritus
              • Dec 2000
              • 16877

              For all, the new software is back out now. Sony says that they've fixed the problems that some people were having with the upgrade, so it's now version 2.41. Looks pretty sweet. In the middle of a game, or even a video, I can press the PS button and bring up the XMB.
              CHRIS

              Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
              - Pleasantville

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              • Hdale85
                Moderator Emeritus
                • Jan 2006
                • 16075

                Well I get my PS3 tomorrow and should have the new laser sometime middle to end of the week After that if anyone wants to play GT5 Prologue let me know

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                • Hdale85
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 16075

                  Didn't someone make an HTG folding team? If not we should

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                  • Chris D
                    Moderator Emeritus
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 16877

                    Yeah, that'd be cool. I leave my PS3 on all the time, so it auto-starts the Folding program. I'm up to 620 or so folding units.
                    CHRIS

                    Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                    - Pleasantville

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                    • Hdale85
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 16075

                      Well I guess I'll make one then and post up the number for it here.

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                      • Hdale85
                        Moderator Emeritus
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 16075

                        Ok the HTguide folding team is 137901. So anyone wanting to join the HTguide folding team just put that in the team box. You can use this on the PS3 or on a PC that you running folding on.




                        The PS3 sure is faster then my mini.... Going to take 12 hours to do a set on my mini takes like 4-5 hours on the PS3.
                        Last edited by Hdale85; 15 July 2008, 10:55 Tuesday.

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                        • Chris D
                          Moderator Emeritus
                          • Dec 2000
                          • 16877

                          Cool, dude. I'll see if I can figure out how to join. You should probably post a dedicated thread about it, so that everybody can learn about the Folding @ Home program, (lots may not know about it) and join, regardless of what platform they use it on.
                          CHRIS

                          Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                          - Pleasantville

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                          • Hdale85
                            Moderator Emeritus
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 16075

                            Someone add me...lol I still have no friends Dougie085 on PSN. I'll have my new laser tomorrow so should be able to play games. Although currently all I have is GT5.

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                            • Alloroc
                              Super Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 2580

                              Originally posted by Dougie085
                              Someone add me...lol I still have no friends Dougie085 on PSN. I'll have my new laser tomorrow so should be able to play games. Although currently all I have is GT5.

                              Dougie, was away! I'll add you the weekend when I get the chance to turn the thing on. I'ver heard some great reviews about Ferrari Challenge, by the way. I'll try the demo first.
                              Vincent.

                              I don't want the world. I just want your half.

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                              • Hdale85
                                Moderator Emeritus
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 16075

                                I just got the new laser installed and all is working well Reilly is watching happy feet on BD on it right now

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                                • PewterTA
                                  Moderator
                                  • Nov 2004
                                  • 2901

                                  No more PS2 on PS3. Looks like they are dropping backwards compatibility... I think that's a big shocker for a lot of people that were considering getting one and still being able to play their older PS2 games...

                                  Find the latest technology stories, breaking news and reviews on Yahoo Tech.
                                  Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                                  -Dan

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                                  • Hdale85
                                    Moderator Emeritus
                                    • Jan 2006
                                    • 16075

                                    I don't have a problem with it. I have a hard time playing old games on new consoles. Especially when it went from SD to HD and what not.

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                                    • dyazdani
                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                      • Oct 2005
                                      • 7032

                                      I think that is a bad move, but it doesn't matter to me, mine already plays PS2 games. It is nice to play some of the better PS2 games not available on the PS3 - e.g. God of War I/II. It's also nice to be able to buy some decent games for less than $60.
                                      Danish

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                                      • PewterTA
                                        Moderator
                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 2901

                                        Yeah I think it could end up hurting Sony in the long run...but I'd really like to know is why take it out and what for...
                                        Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                                        -Dan

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                                        • Hdale85
                                          Moderator Emeritus
                                          • Jan 2006
                                          • 16075

                                          Probably adds some kind of larger expense and they are trying to make room to drop the price or something.

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                                          • dyazdani
                                            Moderator Emeritus
                                            • Oct 2005
                                            • 7032

                                            Production costs are higher with BC functionality... they are banking that the marginal cost reduction will outweigh lost revenue due to the elimination.
                                            Danish

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                                            • M.Roberts8
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Jan 2006
                                              • 229

                                              Yeah backwards compatibility was high on my list at first but the truth is with the exception of God of War II I have yet to play a ps2 title on my ps3. I figure why bother at this point.
                                              I remember the same thing when the ps2 came out it was a big deal at first then a couple months later, meh who cares.
                                              Fact is I still got a ps2 so I can still use it if needed, I don't need it having a OG 60gb ps3.

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                                              • Allegiance
                                                Senior Member
                                                • Sep 2006
                                                • 247

                                                The only PS2 games I use on my PS3 are GTA III and Vice City 8)

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                                                • Allegiance
                                                  Senior Member
                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                  • 247

                                                  Originally posted by Dougie085
                                                  Someone add me...lol I still have no friends Dougie085 on PSN. I'll have my new laser tomorrow so should be able to play games. Although currently all I have is GT5.
                                                  I have added you :P What is this laser you are getting installed?

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                                                  • Hdale85
                                                    Moderator Emeritus
                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                    • 16075

                                                    Ah I got a PS3 off ebay with disc read errors which 90% of the time means new laser assembly in the BD drive. Replaced it and works perfect

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                                                    • Hdale85
                                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                                      • Jan 2006
                                                      • 16075

                                                      I picked up Grid today also found a used DS3 controller which shocked me So saved about 20 bucks on that. So if anyone else has Grid (awesome game) let me know we can play sometime.

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                                                      • Allegiance
                                                        Senior Member
                                                        • Sep 2006
                                                        • 247

                                                        I have Grid but on PC Its a good game! I am waiting until I get ADSL2+ next tuesday before I do much online gaming anyway! :B

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                                                        • audioqueso
                                                          Super Senior Member
                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                          • 1930

                                                          It's still retarded that they cut on BC. They advertised the PS3 being able to do this, that, AND still play legacy Playstation games. Now they're going back on their word because it's costing too much. It's not like they aren't making profit. I've seen their real numbers. I still play a LOT of my PS1 and PS2 games cause I play multiplayer games when friends come over.

                                                          For me the biggest factor why I haven't bought a PS3 is no region crack on PS2 and PS1 games. I have just as many US games as I do Japanese games. I didn't like have two Playstation 2's. And I don't want to own two Playstation 3's.
                                                          B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720

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                                                          • Allegiance
                                                            Senior Member
                                                            • Sep 2006
                                                            • 247

                                                            Originally posted by audioqueso
                                                            It's still retarded that they cut on BC. They advertised the PS3 being able to do this, that, AND still play legacy Playstation games. Now they're going back on their word because it's costing too much. It's not like they aren't making profit. I've seen their real numbers. I still play a LOT of my PS1 and PS2 games cause I play multiplayer games when friends come over.

                                                            For me the biggest factor why I haven't bought a PS3 is no region crack on PS2 and PS1 games. I have just as many US games as I do Japanese games. I didn't like have two Playstation 2's. And I don't want to own two Playstation 3's.
                                                            Its a sacrifice really, I am sure most people would rather the lower price than the backward compatibility. It is currently $699AUD in australia, now I bought one of the original 60GB units for $999AUD. The backward compatibility isn't worth $300AUD to me...

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                                                            • audioqueso
                                                              Super Senior Member
                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                              • 1930

                                                              For me it is cause I don't want to have 3 consoles all around. But more than anything, Sony should not have flaunted how the PS3 can do this and that and is backwards compatiable if they couldn't afford it.
                                                              B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720

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                                                              • Allegiance
                                                                Senior Member
                                                                • Sep 2006
                                                                • 247

                                                                Originally posted by audioqueso
                                                                For me it is cause I don't want to have 3 consoles all around. But more than anything, Sony should not have flaunted how the PS3 can do this and that and is backwards compatiable if they couldn't afford it.
                                                                I don't think its about Sony not being able to afford it, its one of the ways they were able to make the console cheaper. Hence better for the consumer, remember they still lose money on every unit.

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                                                                • Pez
                                                                  Senior Member
                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                  • 472

                                                                  I may not use the BC much but I think its a big selling point. Since the PS3 is lacking in games the BC gave it a huge selection right from the start. I am just glad mine has the feature.

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                                                                  • Hdale85
                                                                    Moderator Emeritus
                                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                                    • 16075

                                                                    There are a lot of big titles coming out soon though. There are already quite a few like Bad Company and Grid and I think there are a few others. But Sony finally has some huge titles coming to the PS3 so I don't think its going to be a huge deal.

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                                                                    • Ovation
                                                                      Super Senior Member
                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                      • 2202

                                                                      BC matters not to me (the only video game I've played in the last 5 years was on a PS3 about 10 days ago), so a lower price trumps that feature for me (especially as I plan to use it primarily as a BD player, if I get one, a music server and then, occasionally, a few games). I do understand the frustration though, since the one feature some models had that I DO want, but probably won't get, is SACD playback. But with the lower price, I can get an Oppo (still room on my rack).

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                                                                      • impala454
                                                                        Ultra Senior Member
                                                                        • Oct 2007
                                                                        • 3814

                                                                        I don't really understand how the technical aspect of making the thing play PS2 games is so expensive. How does it drive the price of a PS3 up more than the cost of a brand new standalone PS2!??
                                                                        -Chuck

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                                                                        • M.Roberts8
                                                                          Senior Member
                                                                          • Jan 2006
                                                                          • 229

                                                                          Originally posted by impala454
                                                                          I don't really understand how the technical aspect of making the thing play PS2 games is so expensive. How does it drive the price of a PS3 up more than the cost of a brand new standalone PS2!??
                                                                          In the first ps3's (60gb) the consoles actually have the ps2 "emotion engine" chipsets on the motherboard. The increase in cost wasn't limited to the cost of the chipsets but the entire motherboard was more costly as well. They later opted to drop this because of cost and go the software emulation route (80gb) also the price dropped. That has been hit or miss from what I understand (emulation working).
                                                                          What I find strange is how put out people get about it not being 100% backwards compatible and now not being BC at all. When MS dropped the xbox altogether and the 360 isn't 100% BC either but there isn't many complaining about it.
                                                                          The simple fact is the ps3 does so much who cares about the BC. Just between the games and built-in blu-ray playback. Besides ps2 games don't look that good on a HDTV. God of War II wasn't too bad and is still the only one I have played on my ps3.

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                                                                          • impala454
                                                                            Ultra Senior Member
                                                                            • Oct 2007
                                                                            • 3814

                                                                            ah so the BC on a PS3 is software emulation? that's cool, was just curious, makes more sense that way anyhow.
                                                                            -Chuck

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                                                                            • audioqueso
                                                                              Super Senior Member
                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                              • 1930

                                                                              No, the BC on the 80GB was software emulation. The 60GB was hardware emulation.
                                                                              The 60GB has been discontinued for some while now. Then it was just the 40GB and 80GB version left. So the only version (80GB) that had BC was using software emulation.
                                                                              How is not including a SOFTWARE PROGRAM on the PS3 helping in lowering the cost to manufacture a unit? The program's already written. It's not like it cost more to write the program into the unit. They will still lose money with or without it. But they're still profitting a LOT more with the sale of games.
                                                                              B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720

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                                                                              • Hdale85
                                                                                Moderator Emeritus
                                                                                • Jan 2006
                                                                                • 16075

                                                                                Someone mentioned there have been problems with the software BC so maybe they are having to continually rewrite and update the code and what not and that costs money. Everything costs money someway or another. Honestly its already going to happen no sense in complaining about it. Probably something like 90% of the people that own a PS3 could care less.

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                                                                                • impala454
                                                                                  Ultra Senior Member
                                                                                  • Oct 2007
                                                                                  • 3814

                                                                                  makes sense. as someone who's worked in software development for several years, i can speak that maintinence is often very expensive, often times even moreso than the initial development.
                                                                                  -Chuck

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                                                                                  • Hdale85
                                                                                    Moderator Emeritus
                                                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                                                    • 16075

                                                                                    Looks like another update. Seems pretty large as its taking me a couple minutes to download.

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                                                                                    • Chris D
                                                                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                                                                      • Dec 2000
                                                                                      • 16877

                                                                                      Yeah, but the thing is, people can't really figure out if it does anything. Just supposed to be more stable.

                                                                                      A mysterious firmware update, firmware 2.42, has just gone live. To be entirely honest, we have absolutely no idea what …
                                                                                      CHRIS

                                                                                      Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                                                                                      - Pleasantville

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                                                                                      • Hdale85
                                                                                        Moderator Emeritus
                                                                                        • Jan 2006
                                                                                        • 16075

                                                                                        Yeah probably just a stability thing. I did have my PS3 freeze up once when playing GT5. That was the only time and I've played many hours since and not had it happen again.

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                                                                                        • dyazdani
                                                                                          Moderator Emeritus
                                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                                          • 7032

                                                                                          I've never had anything become unstable, always been like a tank.

                                                                                          I've been playing Call of Duty 4 now, pretty good game if you're into that type.
                                                                                          Danish

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                                                                                          • Chris D
                                                                                            Moderator Emeritus
                                                                                            • Dec 2000
                                                                                            • 16877

                                                                                            I keep playing the "Civilization" demo over and over again. Looks like it would be a fun game--first time on a game console. But I've really had a hard time trying to justify paying $60 for the full game. Maybe if I wait a few months, it will come down.
                                                                                            CHRIS

                                                                                            Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                                                                                            - Pleasantville

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