23"+ LCD

[junior77blue]

I'm wondering if anyone has first hand experience with any of these monitors:

Dell 24" 2405FPW $1000
HP 23" L2335 ~$1400
Samsung 24" 243T $1700
Apple 23" CD $1500
Apple 30" CD $3000

I'm a mac user, and would have instincty purchased the Apple 23 or 30" display. But, I have read about numerous quality issues with the 23" (color primarily) and viewed these issues first hand. The 30" seems to not have these issues, supposedly due to a different panel manufacturer.

My question is will the 30" display be able to play games, i.e. World of Warcraft at the lower resolution of (1920x1600) without serious quality issues?

If not, which 23/24" display will yield the best performance, do not factor cost into this as of yet.

Is there another widescreen monitor that I may have missed? These seem to be the creme of the crop currently.

[Sithlord]

Hi mate. My brother is currently using the Dell 24" and it's amazing. The only game he plays is World of Warcraft and it looks beautiful on that monitor. He runs it at 1900x1200 and Wow. A very nice monitor you wouldn't be disappointed. I'm sorry but I dont have experience with any of the other monitors in that list but boy 30" Mac now that would be something to see.

[junior77blue]

For "best-bang-for-the-buck"...the dell is definately the winner.

The HP has gotten some serious reviews saying it is the one to beat for performance.

I'd love to have the 30" mac, but I'm worried since its native resolution is much higher than the max 1920x1200 that World of Warcraft currently supports. I have yet to find a review of the 30" playing WoW.

Granted, I could probably play WoW in 1920x1200 windowed format and still have room for a web browser to thottbott, or email, or IM....LOL!!

The only question is if the 30" is 'fast' enough for motion.

[Sithlord]

Well I just went and purchased the Dell 24" as well now. Dell had 10% for 2 days for online purchase so I did it. Got it for $1600AUD delivered to my work. WOW (World of Warcraft) looks absolutely amazing on this monitor. Cannot wait until I try other games. Very satisfied.

[JonMarsh]

I'm wondering if anyone has first hand experience with any of these monitors:

Dell 24" 2405FPW $1000
HP 23" L2335 ~$1400
Samsung 24" 243T $1700
Apple 23" CD $1500
Apple 30" CD $3000

I'm a mac user, and would have instincty purchased the Apple 23 or 30" display. But, I have read about numerous quality issues with the 23" (color primarily) and viewed these issues first hand. The 30" seems to not have these issues, supposedly due to a different panel manufacturer.

My question is will the 30" display be able to play games, i.e. World of Warcraft at the lower resolution of (1920x1600) without serious quality issues?

If not, which 23/24" display will yield the best performance, do not factor cost into this as of yet.

Is there another widescreen monitor that I may have missed? These seem to be the creme of the crop currently.

Samsung has a zero pixel defects policy, and while it's not quite as cool looking as the big Apples, I've had exactly ZERO issues with any of mine, including the 21 and 23. Note that there 213T has been in production a relatively long time, for this business, but is still an editors choice due to combination of quality, performance, and price. Unlike Dell, HP, and Apple, they actually make these things, instead of buying them from an OEM.

~Jon

[Miroku]

I use the HP at work for 3d modeling. Its awesome, first LCD monitor I have actually liked. I used to be a CRT only type of guy

There is one dead pixel on it but, most of my coworkers who have the same monitor have perfect ones.

[PewterTA]

I'd be a little leary of a 12ms refresh time if you tend to play/do any fast action moving stuff...it will all blur on you when stuff scrolls around on the screen.

That's the only reason I've stuck with a CRT design (currently Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 930SB)...I couldn't stand the blurring on images (even with like scrolling on webpages)...

You need to get the refresh rate under 8ms (I think there is even a very few 2ms?) to get a half decent scroll on those things.

[wildfire99]

I have an HP 2335... wonderful monitor. The colors on the extreme edges of the monitor are off a bit (either pinkish or greenish) due to what I assume are issues with even backlight coverage. No dead pixels. Takes anything you can imagine short of HDMI: DVI, VGA/HD15, Component, Svideo, Composite. Aspect ratio adjustments and good color adjustments (dialled it into D65k easily). Once you use DVI on this, everything else will look terrible by comparison. Make sure your video card has DVI out.

The blur is still there as it's an LCD, but I would call it anything other than a problem. Gaming is fine, webpage scrolls are smooth with no blur. My video card doesn't like driving so many pixels though (Radeon 7500), so I get some sparklies that are visible on a pure black screen. I primarily use it for video editing (primary display and it handles 60 field/sec video fine) and 3D, where the extra real estate come in very handy.

I'd call it perfect if it weren't for the discoloration on the edges and it had a bit better contrast (measured 440:1ish). This is a 16:10 aspect monitor also, so playback of widescreen video material will exhibit some vertical stretching when scaled to the full panel, which I don't find unacceptable (but it is occasionally noticeable). Only problem now: I want a 40" monitor, this one is too small.

My other LCD (Dell 15" 1600x1200 -- yeah I squint) has VERY visible blurring problems, especially when scrolling webpages, so I think that the refresh time is important, but 12ms on the L2335 fixes it for me.

Prior to this I used an Iiyama 22" trinitron CRT, which was great for video and 3D but OMG, it was 80lbs, made my desk flex, and had halo issues on high contrast materials. This LCD slaps it all the way around the park in everything but black level. Not to mention how much easier on the eyes the LCD is.

[junior77blue]

So, 16ms on the Apple 30" display is too slow for gaming/scrolling??

[aud19]

Anybody know what the refresh is on the 26" widescreen Sharp Aquos? They're a bit more expensive but damn they'd make a sweet monitor! :P And if you have cable internet you could hook it up to cable and your PC :lol:

[junior77blue]

Anybody know what the refresh is on the 26" widescreen Sharp Aquos?

Does it have the resolution required? Typically TV monitors are limited in their display resolution. And will look fuzzy or have a small screen print. For example, apple's 23"WS is 1900x1200 dpi. Which allows for extremely sharp text and small detail.

[PewterTA]

So, 16ms on the Apple 30" display is too slow for gaming/scrolling??

if you play fast paced games...

Yep.

I stick with 8ms or under if you have can. Even at 12ms it blurs too much for my tastes (when playing fast paced action games like Counter Strike)...

[PewterTA]

Does it have the resolution required? Typically TV monitors are limited in their display resolution. And will look fuzzy or have a small screen print. For example, apple's 23"WS is 1900x1200 dpi. Which allows for extremely sharp text and small detail.

Well you have to think about it...

Most TVs don't even do 1080p (which is 1900x1080)... So a lot of the resolutions some people run the TVs don't support.

if you are like me, the 1600x1200, just won't work on a TV...I do however lower the resolution when I want it to fit on my TV...

[aud19]

Does it have the resolution required? Typically TV monitors are limited in their display resolution. And will look fuzzy or have a small screen print. For example, apple's 23"WS is 1900x1200 dpi. Which allows for extremely sharp text and small detail.

I think they're 1366x768 which is "adequate" if you're sitting a few feet back IMO. Probably to low if you're within 1'-2' like a more traditional layout but I don't know if i'd only want to be a couple feet away from a 26" monitor no matter what the resolution :lol:

[junior77blue]

if you play fast paced games...

Yep.

I stick with 8ms or under if you have can. Even at 12ms it blurs too much for my tastes (when playing fast paced action games like Counter Strike)...

What brand/models of monitors have 8ms or under displays? Is this technology currently avaialble?

[PewterTA]

Here's just a quick search I did at Newegg.com with LCDs that are 8ms and have a native resolution of 1280x1024 (19" basically)... I ended up with 39 of them... so there's a few.

Search Results

[junior77blue]

So, nothing larger than 19" and no widescreen (16x9) or (16x10) aspect ratio.

Thank-you for looking!

[Dean McManis]

But that's usually the problem as you get a larger display, the picture gets somewhat compromised. But it's usually offset by being able to view the larger screen from farther away. :T