The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford

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  • greenhorn
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 204

    #1

    The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford

    Sorry to all those that liked it, what a dud. There is a thread way back when, but it's pretty far back.

    Picture quality was poor, can we please have some clairty. I don't care for the whole everything is black with black Silhouette. And the fisheye technique here and there was weak. It reminded me of something that was done in 4:3 "fixed" to go 16:9.

    Sound quality was poor, it was not a movie where you could lock in a volume level and leave it at that. There were times when the dialog was hard to understand and given the characters accents, speach style and emoting it was hard to understand what they were saying.

    Character development was weak, in 2 hours and 40 minutes we knew little, learned little about any of the characters. We knew 0 about Jesse's wife and that was that.

    For me narration is often a cheap resource for lack of story and good script. This one it was both. The narration and shifting of scenes almost came across like one of those old film strips for grade school.

    Ding... Talking... Pictures (or scene in this case) Ding...Talking...New Picture (scene)

    Apart from a few moments there was no insight, understanding or real feel to the torment or psychosis that was suggested. Lame showing of emotion or supposed insane type cackling and laughter really didn't do it.

    Costumes were good as was the scenery and sets when in focus and not saturated in black. That was about it. The worst thing was conceptually the idea of constructing the story this way was great, just wasn't executed worth a darn.

    The story was hard to follow at points, we would look at each other and go huh? They all stay at the Fords sisters house on the lamb, but they all just meet each other recently... I must have missed something. Wife is a whole lot smarter than I am, in general and with movie story lines and she was confused here and there.

    You want to see a good psyco cowboy, watch Bruce Dern in the Cowboys, not Brad Pitt in this movie. Not to compare the two movies, just one psyco Cowboy to another... no contest.

    Before we started the movie I said I really wanted to like the movie... not. Hoping that it might be a cowboy version of GoodFellas or something. At the end it wasn't like I wasted almost 3 hours, but wasn't very well spent time.

    It was Ok to see it once, but overall it was pretty lame.

    Oh and as far as the picture and sound quality, my eqiupment is up to snuff, that wasn't the issue.


    Thread from way back.
  • George Bellefontaine
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Jan 2001
    • 7636

    #2
    Now tell us how you really feel about this film...


    Sorry you disliked it. I thought it was great.
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    • Ovation
      Super Senior Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 2204

      #3
      I finally got this from Zip.ca in HD DVD (I put it on my list in the spring :E ) and I've been looking forward to it for a long time (now I just need to find a nearly 3 hour chunk of time to watch it). My impression, based on what I remember reading about it when it came out, is the marketing of this film may have been misleading--which might account for some disappointment in some quarters. However, I plan to give it the benefit of the doubt as I've begun exploring westerns (both contemporary and classic) in anticipation of a course on the history of the "Wild West" I'll be teaching next year (I frequently make use of films--either in their entirety or as excerpts--when tackling pop culture references of historical events).

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      • George Bellefontaine
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        • Jan 2001
        • 7636

        #4
        Originally posted by Ovation
        My impression, based on what I remember reading about it when it came out, is the marketing of this film may have been misleading--which might account for some disappointment in some quarters.
        In the original thread on this film, I tried to make it clear that this wasn't the usual type western. Far from it. It is an entire film of character exploration, and moves slowly at times. But in my view, it was well written, well acted and well directed, so I couldn't have asked for more. But, again, be forwarned, if you are expecting and wanting another Tombstone or Unforgiven, etc., then this is not a film for you. I suggest you read my original post, Ovation, so you won't be disappointed.
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        • Ovation
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          • Sep 2004
          • 2204

          #5
          I remember your post. I'm quite open to different approaches to "conventional" subjects (I quite enjoyed the last act of Seraphim Falls, for example, whereas I'm pretty sure most people who likely enjoyed the film up to there were a bit "startled" by the direction the film took) so I have no concerns about that.

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          • wkhanna
            Grumpy Old Super Moderator Emeritus
            • Jan 2006
            • 5674

            #6
            If you Liked 'Seraphim Falls', I will guess that you Love AJJCRF.
            I felt they were both great films.
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            • rob17
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 29

              #7
              I thought it was a decent film. I watched it this past summer and I was happy with it. I thought it was rather long though and at times the plot slowed which made it seem longer in parts. I would be willing to watch it again though which says a lot about the movie.

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              • littlesaint
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 824

                #8
                I concur with George that it's not your typical Western, much like No Country For Old Men was not your typical Western (yes, it was a Western). It's character driven, and relies on dialog and method. More like a play than a film. I thought this was the best film out last year, and the soundtrack is the best I've heard since Requiem For A Dream.
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                • Ovation
                  Super Senior Member
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 2204

                  #9
                  Just watched this. I liked it a lot and I think it bears a second viewing to soak up the subtleties in the performances. I really liked the score (may very well purchase a recording of it). I did experience a few moments of drifting off, but that was my fault, not the movie's--I started it at 10 pm with a very short night's sleep last night and this is not an action film at all. I plan to add it to my collection (watched in HD DVD as a rental--maybe there's a cheap copy somewhere. Otherwise, I'll pick up the BD).

                  I think it makes a fine companion piece for Unforgiven--each film offers some interesting commentary on notions broader than the immediate subject matter.

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                  • George Bellefontaine
                    Moderator Emeritus
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 7636

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ovation

                    I think it makes a fine companion piece for Unforgiven--each film offers some interesting commentary on notions broader than the immediate subject matter.
                    Oh, yes, I felt that way, too.

                    I have it on Blu, and though there are some scenes that benefit from hi-def, overall it's almost like a sepiatone with muted colors, so I feel that most would be happy watching this on standard def dvd.
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