Alien vs Predator 2: Requiem - DO NOT BUY!!!

[audioqueso]

Man... I just finished watching it and I'm completely 100% disappointed! Please note that my favorite movie of all time is Aliens. So I'm in favor of liking a movie that has Aliens in it.

Story line continues from the end of Aliens vs Predator where they show a new hybrid burst out of the dead Predator's body. Blah blah blah... earth, Aliens, Predalien, and Predator.

Sorry, but this movie was just crap. As bad or worse than Aliens 4: Resurrection. Sound quality was not impressive (will get to that later), and movie was too dark to rate the video quality.

- Most of the movie was in the dark, so you couldn't really make out anything (except that they were fighting)
- AVP was bad enough that they made the Predator seem human with the whole "bomb goes boom" hand motion scene. They made the Predator in the beginning even more human by making him moan/morn over the death of his comrade (when in every Predator movie/story, they just honor with respect, not cry)
- The Alien effects were horrible. Too much rubber parts, and the acid blood was lame... looked like the retarded Alien child from Aliens: Resurrection.
- They put in a woman who was in the Army, and that automatically made her a tanker and a helicopter pilot.
- Piss poor acting by everyone.
- Small time town, and somehow everyone person trying to survive instantly knew how to use an M16 type rifle with unlimited ammo. And every time someone fired, it sounded as if it was the same sound clip used for everyone person firing.
- EVERY SINGLE TIME an Alien was fired upon, it sounded like they used the same exact soundclip from Aliens (hallway scene with the automatic sensor guns) Sound quality was just not good... seemed very lazy in the making.
- A bunch of rephrased lines that were used in the previous Aliens or Predator movies.

I really can't say anything good about this movie. I tried. I really did cause I think the Predator is cool, and Aliens is my favorite, but this was easily a "B" movie. They ruined it for me as bad as Aliens: Resurrection did.

I wouldn't even recommend this as a rental. I give it :05:... and that's cause it has the word "Aliens" in the title. :rofl:

[Hdale85]

Hmm this is disappointing as I had heard this was a rather good movie. I'll probably still check it out though.

[George Bellefontaine]

Everything audioqueso says in the above post pretty much coincides with what reviews I have read about it, especially the darkness of the camera work and how difficult it is to know what is going on. I fully intend to pass on this one.

[Dmantis]

I wanna see this. I'm not cool with it being a flop.

Rental

[Ovation]

I lost interest with the second Alien film though I saw some filmmaking potential from David Fincher's entry in the series (his first feature film, I believe). It wasn't great, but there were indications that he would grow as a filmmaker (and he certainly has). None of them, though, hold a candle to the original. As for AVP movies--I've not bothered, so I can't comment. I will say that nothing I read about them nor the trailers I saw for them made me want to see them.

[George Bellefontaine]

None of them, though, hold a candle to the original.

I absolutely agree, the first was the scariest film I had seen up to the date it had been released in theaters. It was a mix of sci-fi and horror. I didn't mind the second version by James Cameron because it veered away from the horror angle and went the sci-fi action route. But everything after that just didn't hold interest for me. As for the AVP films, well I didn't much care for the first, but the original Predator film was pretty darn good.

[Ovation]

I like the Predator films (even the one with Danny Glover) but I simply could not get excited about the AVP movies because of their story structure. I'd like to at least remotely sympathize with one of the major protagonists in a story (actually, they're simply two antagonists) and the fun with these creatures is watching how they can be overcome by weaker, but cleverer human opponents. Two exceedingly fierce aliens hacking at each other is not my idea of fun (maybe for 10 mins, but certainly not over 2 or more films). Ah well, as my father likes to say "le gout ne se discute pas".

[joetama]

I like the Predator films (even the one with Danny Glover) but I simply could not get excited about the AVP movies because of their story structure. I'd like to at least remotely sympathize with one of the major protagonists in a story (actually, they're simply two antagonists) and the fun with these creatures is watching how they can be overcome by weaker, but cleverer human opponents. Two exceedingly fierce aliens hacking at each other is not my idea of fun (maybe for 10 mins, but certainly not over 2 or more films). Ah well, as my father likes to say "le gout ne se discute pas".

I definatly enjoyed the Predator movies. "Get to the chopper" is one of my favorite movies lines of all time.

Anyway, I saw the first AVP and was totally disapointed. Heard from a few friends the second one is good. But, this thread totally bombs on that idea. I might see it anyway.

Also, what does "le gout ne se discute pas" mean? I only speak English and German. :roll:

[RebelMan]

Man... I just finished watching it and I'm completely 100% disappointed! Please note that my favorite movie of all time is Aliens. So I'm in favor of liking a movie that has Aliens in it.

Stand in line homey, Aliens has been my all time favorite movie since seeing it for the first time on the largest screen in Arizona at the original CineCapri in 1986. I mostly agree with your review (Aliens Resurrection was much worse IMO) but as an Aliens loyalist I will be adding AVP:R to my collection flaws and all. I thought it offered some redeeming qualities to the first film (AVP) which from my understanding is what the directors had intended. AVP:R is a homage to BOTH franchises and it should have been viewed and accepted by the audience in this manner, no more no less. I suspect and hope that the follow up to AVP:R will add something new and fresh to the series yet not loose focus with the themes of the original franchises.

[audioqueso]

I lost interest with the second Alien film though I saw some filmmaking potential from David Fincher's entry in the series... None of them, though, hold a candle to the original.

What!??? 1 and 2 are completely different movies. As George said, 1 was a horror flick and 2 was sci-fi action. I can't say one is better than the other. To me, those two are the best equally, but different genres. Aliens is the coolest movie to me though. Especially the mech vs queen scene! ;x(

I definitely enjoyed the Predator movies. "Get to the chopper" is one of my favorite movies lines of all time.

Ha ha.. it's what I always say randomly at work. Great stuff! :T

Stand in line homey, Aliens has been my all time favorite movie since seeing it for the first time on the largest screen in Arizona at the original CineCapri in 1986.

You beat me there. First time I saw Aliens was in 93' and thought it was the coolest movie ever since then. :T

But I agree, being a hard-core Alien fan, I bought it with no thought to add to my collection... but that's about the reason why anyone should. Rent it, watch it if you want, but it's not worth buying.

[audioqueso]

Stand in line homey, Aliens has been my all time favorite movie since seeing it for the first time on the largest screen in Arizona at the original CineCapri in 1986.

But... I can make the sound of the Aliens screaming. 8) :B

[RebelMan]

I definitely enjoyed the Predator movies. "Get to the chopper" is one of my favorite movies lines of all time.

Ha ha.. it's what I always say randomly at work. Great stuff!

My favorite was... "What's got Billy so spooke'ta?" :lol:

Of course the classic line is... "You are one UGLY mother..." :twisted:

[RebelMan]

But... I can make the sound of the Aliens screaming. 8) :B

That would be impressive! :E

[audioqueso]

That would be impressive! :E

YOU would think so. Everyone else thinks I'm retarded when I do that. :B

[P-Dub]

Rental, or one of those 2 for one previously viewed DVD deals.

[Ovation]

Also, what does "le gout ne se discute pas" mean? I only speak English and German. :roll:

Literally, it means "taste is not up for discussion".

[joetama]

My favorite was... "What's got Billy so spooke'ta?" :lol:

Of course the classic line is... "You are one UGLY mother..." :twisted:

That is a great line too...

Plus the jokes. Those are classic.

[H.T.C]

Correct me,if i am wrong but did the studio or writers use "lovecraft" in the first avp movie being it took place in a ancient building in the antarctic ?

It been said HR GIEGER was influenced by LOVECRAFT in design of the alien creature but anyways i always thought it was funny the preditor hunters had to turn invisible to hunt other species ,umm, anyways those alien creatures would chew those preditors up and spit them out anyday of the week and incubate those spider things in thier abdomen but it seems curious that two separate sc-fi horror worlds collided like that except profits the studios thought would be made off it.

[wettou]

This movie was really bad at least the first one was better.

[audioqueso]

It been said HR GIEGER was influenced by LOVECRAFT in design of the alien creature but anyways i always thought it was funny the preditor hunters had to turn invisible to hunt other species

Why? Everyone does it. You hunt animals, you camouflaged yourself to blend into the environment. You hunt in war, you camouflaged yourself to blend into the environment. The Predator is crowned as the ultimate hunter. He can camouflage himself to blend perfectly with the environment, not invisible. The Alien is the monster that just eats you. Yeah!!!!

Oh, that's another thing about this movie. The Predator's natural vision is like a red/green vision like some monkeys, and it uses the mask to see thermal and other kinds of blood... but then somehow in the movie, it now has a regular vision like humans. And with so much blood from the Aliens, not once did the Predator get hurt from the acid blood.

So yeah... I really didn't like AVP2. I enjoyed AVP MUCH more than this one. But the thing I liked most about AVP is that the surround sound processing was awesome! You could turn off all the lights and tv, and just listen to the Aliens moving around.

[Chris D]

SO many good lines from both original movies.

"Express elevator to hell, man! Going down!" (I use this all the time while flying)

"I ain't got time to bleed."

[DL86]

I knew these kinds of movies are going to be rubbish which is why I don't hire or go and see them.

[bigburner]

You guys are referring to the 1979 film "Alien", aren't you?

The rest are pale imitations in comparison.

Nigel.

[Ovation]

You guys are referring to the 1979 film "Alien", aren't you?

The rest are pale imitations in comparison.

Nigel.

I concur.

[George Bellefontaine]

You guys are referring to the 1979 film "Alien", aren't you?

The rest are pale imitations in comparison.

Nigel.

Yep. Yep. But like I said, Aliens was a pretty goof sci-fi action flick.

[audioqueso]

Yep. Yep. But like I said, Aliens was a pretty goof sci-fi action flick.

NO NO NO! You're O-fending them (ha ha).... Aliens was not pretty good. It was awesome! :B

Alien was a great sci-fi thriller. Aliens was a great sci-fi action movie.

"Game over, man. Game over!"

[RebelMan]

NO NO NO! You're O-fending them (ha ha).... Aliens was not pretty good. It was awesome! :B

Alien was a great sci-fi thriller. Aliens was a great sci-fi action movie.

You said it best!

"What the ---- are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?" Ahhh... see them again for the first time in dts-HD MA!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[RebelMan]

You guys are referring to the 1979 film "Alien", aren't you?

The rest are pale imitations in comparison.

Nigel.

A friend of mine in grade school received an Alien doll back in the day and at the time I didn't have a clue what the attraction was. He persuaded me to see the movie so I obliged by going, to check it out. The movie was on the last leg of its run but I was in time to see it before they took it off the big screen. In the interest of time I went as soon as I could and alone! It was a BIG mistake!! HUGE!!!

As a 13 year old sitting in a seedy dark movie theater I really felt like I was in a space where no one would hear me scream!!! I swore after that experience I would never do that again. As a result I decided to take my cousin to see the sequel when it came out. It didn't help much because instead of one person freaking out there were now two! LOL

Alien was a great treat but Aliens was an awesome spectacle and I have been hooked since. I was so enamored with Aliens that I built my first full blown "surround" system, circa 1988, around my first (VHS) copy of Aliens. The scene where the scout ship scans the inside of Ripley's life boat was perfect demo material back then and still to this day. Plus Ripley freaking rocks!!!

I don't understand what Fox is waiting for to bring the flick out on BD. Every time I check the new/upcoming releases I look for it.

[audioqueso]

...Plus Ripley freaking rocks!!!

Until she became a clone who was emotionally attached to a cheap looking rubber monster who squirted out of a 2" hole. ha ha

[RebelMan]

Until she became a clone who was emotionally attached to a cheap looking rubber monster who squirted out of a 2" hole. ha ha

:rofl: Too funny. Maybe now you'll see why I found that movie far worse then AVP:R.

[David Meek]

The orignal, Alien is the seminal science fiction/horror film. The second, Aliens is the pinnacle of science fiction/combat/thriller movies. The two are similar in that the storyline is a single long arc with the same villian (the aliens) and the same heroin (Ripley). They are dissimilar in most every other way - especially in the vision of and construction by the directors. Ridley Scott took the slow, excruciating, psychological path to mesmerizing the audience and James Cameron took the rollercoaster/thrill-ride path. They both work immensely well IMO. Unfortunately, the third and fourth "Ripley" movies fell far below the amazing level of the first two. The first AVP was a somewhat diverting attempt to capitalize on the franchise that in the end just didn't work for me. I haven't seen the second AVP but will get around to it after reading some of the comments here.

My son had an alien doll with a motion sensor in it so that when you went by it, it would scream at you. Damn thing. He kept it on a reading table by his door and that doll startled me more times than I can count - much to his delight.

[John Holmes]

I watched AVP-R the other day. After two days, I'm still not sure what to make of it. As a fan of both franchises, there's a lot to like and hate with this movie.

I however, have by biggest issue with the lighting of the film (or lack there of). Even after adjusting the black level on my FPTV, the picture was still bad. This made it extremly difficult to immerse on any level into the film.

I watched the SD DVD. How can FOX or any other studio release a disc of this quality, today? I can only hope, the BD version fairs better.

[littlesaint]

I didn't really care for the films, but I hesitate to include them in discussion of the Alien and Predator franchises. AVP has really been a franchise of its own in other media formats for almost 20 years now. The AVP concept goes back to Dark Horse comics in 1989, before Predator 2 and Alien 3. There have also been a line of action figures and over a dozen video games since 1993.

[Lagare Lout]

Have to agree with the comments. Lacklustre, too dark and muddled(even on Blu-ray), uninspiring soundtrack. Really wanted to like AVPR, but it sucks...