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  • JoKaRi
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4

    Rsp-1580

    Hi,

    Rotel has their new flagship processor RSP-1580 at display in CEDIA 2009
    From the CEDIA show floor, Rotel discusses current and upcoming products.


    Pretty nice looking piece of equipment.

    Thought you might be interested

    /J
  • Audio_ElF
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 271

    #2
    The 4x4 HDMI Matrix switching sounds interesting - I assume it only decodes for one zone but feeding HDMI to other zones would be great.

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    • Mikael
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 379

      #3
      here is another picture of it.
      Attached Files

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      • mjb
        Super Senior Member
        • Mar 2005
        • 1483

        #4
        Nice. Looking forward to more info on this. The USB connector looks interesting too. The GUI doesn't seem to have changed much though
        - Mike

        Main System:
        B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
        Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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        • Kevin D
          Ultra Senior Member
          • Oct 2002
          • 4601

          #5
          The 1580 looks pretty mean!

          Notice cursor buttons instead a scroll wheel like the 1098

          4x4 HDMI to send video (and audio) to multiple zones or displays

          7 band parametric EQ for all channels

          all features of the RDG-1520 tuner (except FM maybe?)

          New Dacs, dual DSPs, a new scaler too I believe.

          We'll have to see how it sounds and the final specs, but it looks like a whole lot more then a RSP1570+RDG-1520

          They're trying to get it out in December/January, but they are still working on the RDG-1520 and that needs to ship first. Depending on that, it may be pushed back.

          Kevin D.

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          • mjb
            Super Senior Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 1483

            #6
            Originally posted by Kevin D
            The 1580 looks pretty mean!
            Yes, it does - very interesting.
            Hopefully the Ethernet port will also allow for firmware updates.
            - Mike

            Main System:
            B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
            Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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            • HDBLU
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 311

              #7
              This looks awesome I was hoping last week that they will bring another Processor out with that awesome looking screen and they have, look forward in reading same reviews. And I might buy one to replace my Onkyo 803 that is old and No Lossless decoding inside.
              2ch Setup
              Krix Neupohonix
              Musical Fidelity M6i
              Musical Fidelity M6CDP
              Denon DCD-1510 SACD Player

              Cables I Use
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              • JRachwalski
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 29

                #8
                Originally posted by mjb
                Nice. Looking forward to more info on this. The USB connector looks interesting too. The GUI doesn't seem to have changed much though
                And when I asked Rotel about the ugly GUI on the 1570 there reply was:
                "this is a product for custom installers and the last thing they care about is a fancy GUI"...that and they also feel that most users will just throw the remote in the garbage and use their own - so that is why they havnt; updated the remote.

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                • HDBLU
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 311

                  #9
                  Can any body please post a Picture of what the 1570 Remote look like I have not seen one thanks guy.
                  2ch Setup
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                  Musical Fidelity M6CDP
                  Denon DCD-1510 SACD Player

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                  • JRachwalski
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 29

                    #10
                    it is the same as the one for the 1069.
                    Still can't find a pic anywhere though, and I have sent all 4 of mine back.

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                    • WelshOne
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 117

                      #11
                      Does anyone have any more info on this or definitive pricing?

                      If I only had one display, a seperate DAC for 2ch, and wasnt too concerned on EQ, do you think the 1580 would still be a worthy upgrade?

                      Im extremely happy with the 1570, and would like know if the 1580 brings a whole new level of sound qaulity performance to the party, or is it more of a flexibility upgrade?

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                      • HDBLU
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 311

                        #12
                        Originally posted by WelshOne
                        Does anyone have any more info on this or definitive pricing?

                        If I only had one display, a seperate DAC for 2ch, and wasnt too concerned on EQ, do you think the 1580 would still be a worthy upgrade?

                        Im extremely happy with the 1570, and would like know if the 1580 brings a whole new level of sound qaulity performance to the party, or is it more of a flexibility upgrade?
                        Am thinking of the same thing should I wait and get the 1580 or just buy the 1570 and be done with it and save my money, so Am just going to wait to see what pricing the 1580 is and to read same reviews, but in your case I would stick with your 1570 I can not really see much of a difference in the sound vs the 1570.
                        2ch Setup
                        Krix Neupohonix
                        Musical Fidelity M6i
                        Musical Fidelity M6CDP
                        Denon DCD-1510 SACD Player

                        Cables I Use
                        MIT

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                        • Kevin D
                          Ultra Senior Member
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 4601

                          #13
                          It was tentatively priced at $4500 during Cedia.

                          Kevin D.

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                          • HDBLU
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 311

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kevin D
                            It was tentatively priced at $4500 during Cedia.

                            Kevin D.
                            Am trying to fine the price for Australia am thinking around $5500 I hope it not any more. Are you happy with your 1570 I can get the 1570 over here for 3k am trying to fine out is it worth the extra money for the 1580!
                            2ch Setup
                            Krix Neupohonix
                            Musical Fidelity M6i
                            Musical Fidelity M6CDP
                            Denon DCD-1510 SACD Player

                            Cables I Use
                            MIT

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                            • Kevin D
                              Ultra Senior Member
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 4601

                              #15
                              I'm real happy with my 1570. I'm sure the 1580 will sound better, but I'm pretty sure it's geared (and priced) for a nice multi-room system.

                              I know it has a newer DSP chip (multi-channel EQ, but no auto-set), and wolfsen DAC's (at least for the USB/Ipod input).

                              But it has 4x4 HDMI switching (1080P HDMI video for all four zones) and IPOD/USB/Internet Radio/streaming music(not something you would expect in a high end pre-amp).

                              So while it may improve the sound, I think it's more for replacing a 1570, the new internet tuner, and an HDMI matrix switch for small multiroom systems.

                              Kevin D.

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                              • HDBLU
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 311

                                #16
                                we will have to wait on the reviews I would love to have one with that awesome screen
                                2ch Setup
                                Krix Neupohonix
                                Musical Fidelity M6i
                                Musical Fidelity M6CDP
                                Denon DCD-1510 SACD Player

                                Cables I Use
                                MIT

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                                • eelco74
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 394

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Kevin D
                                  But it has 4x4 HDMI switching (1080P HDMI video for all four zones) and IPOD/USB/Internet Radio/streaming music(not something you would expect in a high end pre-amp).

                                  Kevin D.
                                  The Marantz AV8003 has more or less the same features, so it is not uncommon. I hoped it would be on the annual audio show in holland, but unfortunately it was not on display.
                                  Marantz AV8802, Marantz UD8002, Rotel RB-991 and RB985mkii, Rotel RD960
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                                  • mattburk
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 248

                                    #18
                                    ok so can you use 7 of the hdmi ports as inputs and have one output?
                                    Are the hdmi ports only for switching or do the upconvert also?
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                                    • Industrial
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2009
                                      • 213

                                      #19
                                      I think my ex flagship RSP-1570 is crying now

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                                      • Kevin D
                                        Ultra Senior Member
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 4601

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mattburk
                                        ok so can you use 7 of the hdmi ports as inputs and have one output?
                                        Are the hdmi ports only for switching or do the upconvert also?
                                        I doubt it. It's designed to have an HDMI output for every zone. That was one of the issues I've had ever since the 1069. You have four zones of output, but since the outputs are limited to composite video only you can only have three inputs send video to the other zones.

                                        I would imagine that all HDMI outputs would upconvert from any source. I'm sure we'll find out in three weeks.

                                        Kevin D.

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                                        • Audiophiliac
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Apr 2006
                                          • 346

                                          #21
                                          Wow....4x4 HDMI matrix eh? Sounding better and better. Probably no room correction yet though? I guess one could always add an Audyssey Pro.

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                                          • Kevin D
                                            Ultra Senior Member
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 4601

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Audiophiliac
                                            Wow....4x4 HDMI matrix eh? Sounding better and better. Probably no room correction yet though? I guess one could always add an Audyssey Pro.
                                            At Cedia it had a 7 band EQ for all channels. Rotel's stand has always been less is more, so I doubt they would ever include Audyssey. But who knows.

                                            Kevin D.

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                                            • mattburk
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 248

                                              #23
                                              Not to be a big complainer but that kinda sucks. Why would you not market to the masses who might want 6 inputs or even 7?
                                              Especially since the 4 input processors have been around for awhile-marantz.
                                              I believe the new parasound will have 7 inputs.


                                              Originally posted by Kevin D
                                              I doubt it. It's designed to have an HDMI output for every zone. That was one of the issues I've had ever since the 1069. You have four zones of output, but since the outputs are limited to composite video only you can only have three inputs send video to the other zones.

                                              I would imagine that all HDMI outputs would upconvert from any source. I'm sure we'll find out in three weeks.

                                              Kevin D.
                                              www.mycstone.com
                                              www.coverednow.com
                                              www.biarenton.com

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                                              • Kevin D
                                                Ultra Senior Member
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 4601

                                                #24
                                                At $4500, this really isn't aimed at the masses.

                                                Kevin D.

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                                                • AV-OCD
                                                  Senior Member
                                                  • Aug 2008
                                                  • 568

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Kevin D
                                                  At Cedia it had a 7 band EQ for all channels. Rotel's stand has always been less is more, so I doubt they would ever include Audyssey. But who knows.

                                                  Kevin D.
                                                  Are the EQ bands fixed frequency and bandwidth, or fully adjustable?

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                                                  • tedaudio
                                                    Junior Member
                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                    • 9

                                                    #26
                                                    Any word on this at Cedia 2010?

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                                                    • PewterTA
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                      • 2901

                                                      #27
                                                      Anyone want my 1098??? I think I found my new upgrade... hee heee.

                                                      I'm serious... I'm gonna have to sell the 1098 to afford this!
                                                      Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                                                      -Dan

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                                                      • Kevin D
                                                        Ultra Senior Member
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 4601

                                                        #28
                                                        I'll let you know, going Saturday. Last I heard the 1580 was DBA (dead before arrival).

                                                        Kevin D.

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                                                        • Blindamood
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                          • 899

                                                          #29
                                                          I emailed Rotel Support the other day with different questions, and they informed me that the RSP-1580 is coming soon, with an MSRP of about $4000.
                                                          Brad

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                                                          • PewterTA
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                            • 2901

                                                            #30
                                                            I hope it makes it! course if is does I'll wait a little bit and sell my 1098 and pick up (hopefully v2 so they can work out all the bugs in v1). ha ha
                                                            Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                                                            -Dan

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                                                            • B&W_Group_Fan
                                                              Member
                                                              • Sep 2008
                                                              • 45

                                                              #31
                                                              FWIW, I spotted this:

                                                              HT
                                                              Rotel RSX-1560
                                                              B&W Signature 7NT (x6) | B&W FPM6 (center) | Velodyne MiniVee
                                                              Panasonic TH-46PZ800U | Panasonic DMP-BD55
                                                              Apple TV

                                                              Kitchen / Dining
                                                              Rotel RB-1510 (RSX-1560 providing source)
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                                                              URC MX-880 w/ MRF-350

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                                                              • nash
                                                                Member
                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 76

                                                                #32
                                                                That article is a little confusing, but does it mean that current models are getting HDMI 1.4a now? So if I were to buy a new 1570 in recent production it would have 1.4a?

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                                                                • Blindamood
                                                                  Senior Member
                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                  • 899

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by nash
                                                                  That article is a little confusing, but does it mean that current models are getting HDMI 1.4a now? So if I were to buy a new 1570 in recent production it would have 1.4a?
                                                                  It's hard to tell exactly what it means, really. I can tell you that I recently purchased the RSP-1570, and it most definitely does not have HDMI 1.4a. I also checked the Rotel Support site, and so far there is no mention of a firmware update to that effect either.
                                                                  Brad

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                                                                  • Kevin D
                                                                    Ultra Senior Member
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 4601

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The new firmware allows for 3D passthrough, and perhaps other direct to TV features of 1.4. Looks like the 1580 and perhaps future models will have full 1.4 support.

                                                                    Kevin D.

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                                                                    • Stevebez
                                                                      Senior Member
                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 458

                                                                      #35
                                                                      So when is this hitting the shelves?

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                                                                      • eelco74
                                                                        Senior Member
                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                        • 394

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I have been told by my dealer that for Europe, spring 2011 is a reasonable estimate.

                                                                        But my rsp1098 and Marantz UD8004 does it all, so the 1580 must be exceptional to replace my current combo.
                                                                        Marantz AV8802, Marantz UD8002, Rotel RB-991 and RB985mkii, Rotel RD960
                                                                        Focal/Jmlab Electra 1028S, Electra CC, Electra SW1000S, Cobalt 705
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                                                                        • Whacked!
                                                                          Member
                                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                                          • 34

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Did anybody go to CES (not even sure Rotel was there) and happen to know anything more about the RSP-1580? Is it officially dead or is there a slow pulse and a chance of life?

                                                                          Norm

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                                                                          • Audio_ElF
                                                                            Senior Member
                                                                            • Oct 2007
                                                                            • 271

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Whacked!
                                                                            Did anybody go to CES (not even sure Rotel was there) and happen to know anything more about the RSP-1580? Is it officially dead or is there a slow pulse and a chance of life?

                                                                            Norm
                                                                            If I remember correctly - a working prototype was shown at Cedia 2010 with an anticipated Q1 2011 launch.

                                                                            Eloise

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                                                                            • Kevin D
                                                                              Ultra Senior Member
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 4601

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Didn't make it this year, but from their here's what you missed email:

                                                                              In addition, Rotel showed off its forthcoming RSP-1580 Preamp/processor, along with the RCX-1500 stereo receiver and RDG-1520 Internet radio tuner.
                                                                              So looks like its out of the 'may not be produced phase'

                                                                              Kevin D.

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                                                                              • eelco74
                                                                                Senior Member
                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                • 394

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I have been told by my dealer that the 1580 is due for release this spring in Europe. He has already seen pictures and specs of the final production version.
                                                                                Marantz AV8802, Marantz UD8002, Rotel RB-991 and RB985mkii, Rotel RD960
                                                                                Focal/Jmlab Electra 1028S, Electra CC, Electra SW1000S, Cobalt 705
                                                                                Pioneer KRL-37V, Epson EH-TW8100, Kinkping CES-180 77"inch

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                                                                                • eelco74
                                                                                  Senior Member
                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 394

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  and there it is at a show in Holland....

                                                                                  Van 1 februari tot en met 3 februari vond in de RAI in Amsterdam IS Europe plaats. De beurs is ontstaan vanuit een samenwerking tussen CEDIA, InfoComm en NSCA en wordt al sinds 2005 - met in 2006 een uitstapje richting Brussel - in Amsterdam gehouden. In 2005 was HiFi.nl ook voor het eerst aanwezig op dit, toen nog nieuwe, evenement. Kleinschalig maar ambitieus was de indruk die de organisatie toentertijd op ons maakte. In 2011 blijkt hoe ambitieus: IS Europe 2011 is mega-groot en, getuige de drukte op de eerste dag, erg succesvol.


                                                                                  I am still not sure of the looks, not as excited as I was about the RSP-1098.
                                                                                  But the 4 x 4 matrix HDMI is a very promisong feature...


                                                                                  Last edited by eelco74; 04 February 2011, 04:53 Friday.
                                                                                  Marantz AV8802, Marantz UD8002, Rotel RB-991 and RB985mkii, Rotel RD960
                                                                                  Focal/Jmlab Electra 1028S, Electra CC, Electra SW1000S, Cobalt 705
                                                                                  Pioneer KRL-37V, Epson EH-TW8100, Kinkping CES-180 77"inch

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