DTS/dolby digital/DTS-HD/dolby true-HD

[boxer82003]

a bit confused with all this i have a rsp-1068 if the source is DTS-HD or True hd will i get this with this receiver.

[htsteve]

a bit confused with all this i have a rsp-1068 if the source is DTS-HD or True hd will i get this with this receiver.

boxer,

This pre-amp will not decode the HD audio formats. What you will need is a Blu ray player that decodes these formats and sends out the decoded signal via analog RCA's to the pre-amp (multi-channel inputs). You need 3 pair of interconnects of course. This is what I do between my BR player and pre-amp. Fortunately, there are now multiple BR players that does this decoding.

The HD audio formats are excellent.


Hope this helps.

[robert L]

steve is correct, we 1068 owners fell short of the next generation hd formats,which is typically transfered via hdmi cable
PS> The rsp1068 is a pre amp not a reciever,
Rob

[Legairre]

Will the 1068 overlay PLIIx through the multi inputs for BD playback? I know a lot of receivers and pre amps can't I'm just wondering about the 1068

[Kevin D]

Nope.. Multi-inputs are a pretty much just routed through the volume control.

Kevin D.

[Legairre]

Thanks Kevin.

[june]

boxer,

checkout this thread http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=31594

[thyname]

Confused

Could someone please tell me why would I need a 1.3a HDMI receiver, if I have a pass-through 1.1 HDMI receiver and a PS3 to do the HD decoding? Do I really need a series 15 Rotel receiver, or my current HDMI 1.1 pass-through receiver would do? I am really trying not to go to my Rotel dealer to check it out.

[kmcheng]

Could someone please tell me why would I need a 1.3a HDMI receiver, if I have a pass-through 1.1 HDMI receiver and a PS3 to do the HD decoding? Do I really need a series 15 Rotel receiver, or my current HDMI 1.1 pass-through receiver would do? I am really trying not to go to my Rotel dealer to check it out.

You do not need an 1.3 HDMI receiver to hook up PS3 for HD decoding. However, many receivers only process the video signal via HDMI and do not touch the audio. Which receiver do you currently own?

[Claw]

Could someone please tell me why would I need a 1.3a HDMI receiver, if I have a pass-through 1.1 HDMI receiver and a PS3 to do the HD decoding? Do I really need a series 15 Rotel receiver, or my current HDMI 1.1 pass-through receiver would do? I am really trying not to go to my Rotel dealer to check it out.

See this thread I made last week - it should answer most of your questions

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=32225

I received my RSX-1058 today.. had I planned it out a little better I would have the HDMI cables so I can play with something other than the AM/FM tuner!

[thyname]

You do not need an 1.3 HDMI receiver to hook up PS3 for HD decoding. However, many receivers only process the video signal via HDMI and do not touch the audio. Which receiver do you currently own?

Thank you for the reply. I currently use an Onkyo TX-SR804. I have set it to "direct" when using with my PS3. I used HDMI cable from PS3 to Onkyo and Onkyo to the display.

It sounds to me that it would be a choice between PS3 decoding or the receiver decoding. If that's the case, I would probably be happy with my current setup for movie watching. On another note, I could probably use the extra 2 HDMI inputs in the new Rotel 15 receiver. But is it worth the bucks? What do you guys think?

[Redhawk]

Thank you for the reply. I currently use an Onkyo TX-SR804. I have set it to "direct" when using with my PS3. I used HDMI cable from PS3 to Onkyo and Onkyo to the display.

It sounds to me that it would be a choice between PS3 decoding or the receiver decoding. If that's the case, I would probably be happy with my current setup for movie watching. On another note, I could probably use the extra 2 HDMI inputs in the new Rotel 15 receiver. But is it worth the bucks? What do you guys think?

What you have is more than fine. The PS3 won't send the bitstream (un-decoded) audio signal out for the new codecs anyway, the only choice is to the multi channel LPCM which sounds great. You would need a new player and the new pre so you would spend a few grand just to have the pre do the decoding instead of the PS3. My setup has the PS3 to the 1069 to the monitor and it's perfect. For the switch look at the Marantz VS3002. If you go with another switch consider getting one that can handle HDMI 1.3 so you don't have to upgrade it later. Most of the cheaper ones can't handle the higher bandwidths.

These new codecs showed how weak my sub is, thats the next upgrade here.

[thyname]

What you have is more than fine. The PS3 won't send the bitstream (un-decoded) audio signal out for the new codecs anyway, the only choice is to the multi channel LPCM which sounds great. You would need a new player and the new pre so you would spend a few grand just to have the pre do the decoding instead of the PS3. My setup has the PS3 to the 1069 to the monitor and it's perfect. For the switch look at the Marantz VS3002. If you go with another switch consider getting one that can handle HDMI 1.3 so you don't have to upgrade it later. Most of the cheaper ones can't handle the higher bandwidths.

These new codecs showed how weak my sub is, thats the next upgrade here.

Thanks for confirming my opinion, I really needed to save my money. I was actually thinking about the Oppo switcher which is much cheaper than your Marantz (about $99). It is HDMI 1.3a as well, however I don't think I can take advantage of the new HD audio formats since my receiver (Onkyo 804) only has HDMI 1.1 inputs. How do these switchers work with a receiver any way? I thought they can only be used with a display.

[Redhawk]

Thanks for confirming my opinion, I really needed to save my money. I was actually thinking about the Oppo switcher which is much cheaper than your Marantz (about $99). It is HDMI 1.3a as well, however I don't think I can take advantage of the new HD audio formats since my receiver (Onkyo 804) only has HDMI 1.1 inputs. How do these switchers work with a receiver any way? I thought they can only be used with a display.

My 1069 only has 1.1 inputs and can receive the LPCM from the PS3, which is the decoded audio stream. The website for your receiver is not clear on if it can do this so ither check with them or play with the settings a little. The PS3 will auto detect which audio formats work if you connect it via HDMI to the receiver and go to the audio settings option and select automatic. Then scroll to the bottom and select LPCM for the lossless codec. Disconnect all the other cables from the PS3 first, and connect it to the internet and do a firmware upgrade to make sure you are current. When you put a disk in you have to go to the menu and select the higher codec, it doesn't default to it. When the movie is playing you can push the circle button I think (maybe the select button) and an info banner will come up on the top showing what audio is playing.

The switch will have multiple ins and 1 out. Connect the PS3 etc. to the ins and the one out to your receiver, then from the receiver out to the tv. The switch will either auto detect which signal to send on, or you may have to manually select the source.

So if your receiver can play multi channel PCM you're good.

And here is a good link for explaining LPCM and Bitstream. Basically the LPCM is the digital "representation" of an analog signal. So on a PS3 playing 7.1 there will be 8 PCM streams coming over the HDMI. The bitstream is still encoded. Sorry if I'm being redundant, but it took me awhile to sort all this out. And if you don't have LPCM on your rec. there are a couple <$400 players that will send the decoded audio over analog 7.1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lpcm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_stream

[Ken49r]

The Onkyo TX-SR804 is HDMI 1.1 and does accept HD audio LPCM from the PS3.

Redhawk is correct on how to optain the audio signal being output from the PS3. Maybe you see 48k during movie playback and are assuming that is not HD audio. The movie industry uses 48k but it is still HD audio. If you purchase a Blu-ray music disc most are output at 96k.

[thyname]

Thank you guys. I appreciate your thorough input. I decided I will wait for now and not upgrade my receiver. Not too picky about HT audio. I do however use my Rotel 1080 amp with the pre's of my Onkyo for stereo redbook cd's from my Rotel RCD-1072 cd player, and I love Rotel sound. Glad to be back to this forum after a year or two and see that they are still a number of well-informed, passionate Rotel lovers. Thank you!