Another Multi-input question

[opus]

Merry Christmas all.

First lets do the standard apology, Sorry if this has been addressed in the past, but I am the last person left on dial-up and the search feature is a PTA .

I have a Sony BDP 550 and a Rotel 1066. When I am using the analog outs on the player and the multi-channel in on the pre I would like to know if the pre does any sort of processing on the audio.
In other words when I set up speaker distance, levels, speaker size in the blu-ray setup screen and I also have done this in the Rotel setup which set-up takes precedence?

I ask because I am wondering which piece to use to set the bass levels.


Make sense? Any help would be helpful

Have a great day.....kevin

[wkhanna]

IIRC, when using the multi-inputs, your source (DVD player) has priority.

If you have the manual, I am sure it is burried in there somewhere.

[PewterTA]

Multichannel inputs do nothing but adjust the volume... There is no processing to the speakers and it even bypasses the settings on the processor for distances that are used when it plays a DD/DTS signal.

[opus]

Ok. Thanks for the replies.

But I 'm a little dense. Where would I set the sub levels? Player or Pre?

[PewterTA]

There should be a setting on the player. If not, then you need a test disc to set the level with a sound meter and some test samples to balance it.

[imbeaujp]

That is correct, the multi-input bypass speaker management like distance, delay and bass management. You must adjust thoses parameters in your player.

Check your user guide for more detail informations.

[opus]

Ok, got it. thanks.

I thought there was bass management issues when using multi inputs.

All SPL'ed and sounding great. Take care.....kevin

[Kevin D]

The 1066's multi-inputs will take everything below 100hz on the main channels and send them out the subwoofer output.

To make it a pure multi-channel bypass as it comes out of the player, you will need to snip two resistors on the multi-input board.

Kevin D.

[Robo1067]

Kevin,
Is it the same for the RSX 1067?
The snipping the 2 resistors that is.

Thanks
rob

[opus]

The 1066's multi-inputs will take everything below 100hz on the main channels and send them out the subwoofer output.

To make it a pure multi-channel bypass as it comes out of the player, you will need to snip two resistors on the multi-input board.

Kevin D.

Kevin D,

I did find the thread where this was talked about but the link to the diagram was not working. Could you provide a new link or show me where to find the instructions to do this. The thread I found was from 2003.

thanks ....kevin.e

[Kevin D]

Found it:



Open the case and you should see the multi-input board right on top. Snip one end of both resistors and pull them away from the board slightly.

Put the case back on and you're done. Picture is for a 1055, but I'm pretty sure both boards are the same. If not, it's the same resistor numbers.

Kevin D.

[opus]

Found it:

Thanks for your help Kevin. Maybe I could push my luck and ask for one more clarification. If I play a test tone disc in the player and set all levels with an spl meter is the rerouting that the pre does of everthing under 100hz still an issue?


kevin e

[PewterTA]

Technically not if you balance all your speakers. The only time it would come into play is depending on how you have your subwoofer set up. If your sub does not do well from the 50hz - 100hz (just as an example), then you would want your mains picking up that range. Then it would create a null where you wouldn't hear things like a kick drum or bass guitar as prevelant as some other things. You'd think you're missing something.

Best bet would be to cut the resistors and then you know exactly where everything is going and all setup issues would be with the player

[opus]

Yep. Got it. Have a great day

[Kevin D]

The resistors don't cut anything from the main channels, it just copies it to the subwoofer output. So you will actually get double information from 100hz down. Original signal to the main channels plus a copy to the sub output.

It will not effect setting the levels coming out of the player as long as you have your subwoofer turned off during that time.

Like Pewter said, your best bet is to go ahead and cut them since your player does have bass management controls.

Kevin D.

[Kevin D]

Kevin,
Is it the same for the RSX 1067?
The snipping the 2 resistors that is.

Thanks
rob

No, the 1067 added the option to turn this feature on or off in the multi-input setup menu.

Kevin D.

[Robo1067]

Thanks Kevin
Rob

[june]

opus,

i have the same hook-up 1066 & s550. hooked it up yesterday via multi channel inputs, activated the mulit-channel feature in the audio section and
:E while watching "eagle eye" i hit the display button & dolby digital true hd appeared. happy now!!!

but during the sound test, nothing from the subwoofer. but when movie came on the subwoofer light turned from red to green.

[opus]

opus,

i have the same hook-up 1066 & s550. hooked it up yesterday via multi channel inputs, activated the mulit-channel feature in the audio section and
:E while watching "eagle eye" i hit the display button & dolby digital true hd appeared. happy now!!!

but during the sound test, nothing from the subwoofer. but when movie came on the subwoofer light turned from red to green.

June ,
When you say that you hit the display button you mean on the sony, right?And I also had some funny things happen during testing that I have not figured out yet. I was doing so many things at once but there was a time when I could not get any sound to play, Seemed to have worked thru that though and am pretty happy with the sound overall now. Curious to hear your thoughts as you demo some more.

[june]

no problem opus,

and yes it was the sony remote. my next test is "resident evil degeneration."

[Toolman]

I just purchased a Panasonic BD55 Blu-ray player (with on-board Dolby HD and DTS-HD decoding) and hooked it to my RSX-1067 using the multi-input jacks. The installer said that he confirmed with the local Rotel rep that the receiver would still handle bass management, speaker sizes and distance settings. The 1067 manual states that " these multi-inputs bypass all digital processing in the RSX-1067 and are routed directly to the volume control and preamp outputs".

This thread indicates that the sound management settings should have been made within the player: am I missing something?

Thanks,

John

[Kevin D]

Installer (and I guess local rep) are wrong. They might have been confused with using your player HDMI to a 1069/1058. Those units will handle delay and levels on a multi-channel PCM signal over HDMI.

With the 1067, you need to set up the player with the correct levels.

Kevin D.

[Toolman]

Kevin,

I am using the 1067 preamp outputs for the front and center speakers as my speakers are active (Genelecs): does this make a difference?

John

[Kevin D]

No difference. The multi-inputs are just going to send out what they receive. (either through the amps or the pre-amp outputs).

Kevin D.