RB-1091 & RB-1092 now shipping.

**DrJRapp** · 23 January 2006, 20:45 Monday

Hmmmmmmm..... should I?????

**Aussie Geoff** · 23 January 2006, 20:55 Monday

Jerry,

Go on - you know you should....

We could have the definative comparitive review with the Nuforce etc...

You could take them in and try them on the B*Y 802D or 800D or the Wilsons... :P

We need you to be a man on this :T Do the right thing for Club Rotel...

PS - I've got my RMB-1077 now...

Geoff

**aud19** · 23 January 2006, 20:58 Monday

God to know, cant't wait to hear peoples thoughts :T

**DrJRapp** · 23 January 2006, 22:15 Monday

Originally posted by Aussie Geoff

Jerry,

Go on - you know you should....

We could have the definative comparitive review with the Nuforce etc...

You could take them in and try them on the B*Y 802D or 800D or the Wilsons... :P

We need you to be a man on this :T Do the right thing for Club Rotel...

PS - I've got my RMB-1077 now...

Geoff

Hey Geoff

Thanks for the support. The first place I would be testing them is on my new MartinLogan Summits that I just got tonite. With only 2 hours on them so far, all I can say is they are awesome. Active biamping with their built in 400 wpc bass amp, 4 ohm rating kicks my Aragon up to 500wpc they sound much larger than a 802D (almost in 800D range) also for my ears much cleaner in the upper mids and treble. The dowside is that I can really hear the inadequicies of the RSP 1098.

I can't wait to hear your comments on the 1077. Although other system upgrades forced my hand elsewhere, I still think that's it's a great amp. My favorite amp for HT.

**miner** · 24 January 2006, 09:03 Tuesday

Dr. J, go ahead, bite the bullit. We must know, we have a need to know.

**Kobus** · 24 January 2006, 09:10 Tuesday

Jerry !!

**Kobus** · 24 January 2006, 09:16 Tuesday

I am surprised. It's not even on their website.

**bleeding ears** · 24 January 2006, 09:29 Tuesday

Jerry I would love to see some pics of your new speakers.

Perhaps you could tell us a little more about the speaker/amp combination you have set up, and post some pics?

Are you running the Nuforce amps?

Why not B&W speakers?

Maybe a review in a new thread with your thoughts?

Pete

**ShadowZA** · 24 January 2006, 15:28 Tuesday

Well, Jerry ... I've been a Rotel fan for many years. Even if my next amp purchase is elsewhere (my mind is still not made up yet), I'm mighty interested in what you'll think of the RB-1091 & RB-1092.

**ShadowZA** · 24 January 2006, 15:49 Tuesday

Some pics on a Danish hi-fi site:

http://www.hifilink.dk/nyheder/nyhed.asp?NyhedsID=732

Siden blev ikke fundet - Hifi og musik

http://www.hifi-musik.dk/main.php?page=visnyhed&id=91

**Kobus** · 24 January 2006, 15:58 Tuesday

So what's the projected price of these guys!

**ShadowZA** · 24 January 2006, 16:16 Tuesday

Ok, this is a guestimate. These amps are selling as follows as per the links above:

RB-1091: 12 000 Danish Krone - equates to 12 000 ZAR - equates to 1 992 US $
RB-1092: 20 000 Danish Krone - equates to 20 000 ZAR - equates to 3 320 US $

Not too bad.

(2 x 1092) + (1 x 1091) for 5 channels will cost me the same as 5 x NuForce Ref 9's.

**PewterTA** · 24 January 2006, 17:27 Tuesday

But if wattage equates to anything, you'll be pushing more, more like the Nuforce Ref. 10s which are to push more than the ref. 9s. I think it's something like 500watts like these guys. Just wonder what the prices will before them?

Just have to see how they sound!

**GregLett** · 24 January 2006, 17:34 Tuesday

Well Jerry you know you are always the first

h: so go for it :T

**RebelMan** · 24 January 2006, 19:24 Tuesday

Isn't it obvious that Jerry is slowly defecting the Club? It's an agonizing process to see.

**Kevin D** · 24 January 2006, 21:30 Tuesday

Originally posted by ShadowZA

Ok, this is a guestimate. These amps are selling as follows as per the links above:

RB-1091: 12 000 Danish Krone - equates to 12 000 ZAR - equates to 1 992 US $
RB-1092: 20 000 Danish Krone - equates to 20 000 ZAR - equates to 3 320 US $

I haven't verified yet, but it's always been said that the 1092 is $2500US (in the US) and the 1091 is $1500US.

Kevin D.

**Marcel B** · 25 January 2006, 15:08 Wednesday

VAT is 25 % in Denmark, here in the netherlands (19% VAT) prices for consumers must be including VAT. I suppose that's also the case in Denmark.
That seems the same price as US (which is surprising because Rotel is in general more expensive in Europe)

Marcel B

**Kobus** · 25 January 2006, 17:25 Wednesday

Rotel South Africa is expecting them in march.
purchase price +- R 22 000 & 12000

**rockbobmel** · 25 January 2006, 20:56 Wednesday

Jerry wrote "I can really hear the inadequicies of the RSP 1098."

Wha, Wha, What??

**Desotti** · 25 January 2006, 23:40 Wednesday

As an owner/admirer of Rotel gear as well, I think Jerry meant that the 1098 is not as refined as the most expensive hi-end preamps avaiable out there and IMHO it's not mean to be.

It's just a honest and very good sounding hi-fi pre/pro as most of Rotel gear. :T

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**VictorHRS** · 26 January 2006, 10:12 Thursday

Desotti, my friend, good to see you here!

And I'm also waiting anxiously for the new RBs! :T

**grit** · 26 January 2006, 12:40 Thursday

I'll echo what Desotti said. Rotel is excellent equipment within it's price class. Certainly, if you spend more, you can get better performance. I think Jerry's just pointing out that his amplifiers and speakers are *SO* capable, that even the minor imperfections in Rotel equipment are revealed.

**Stevebez** · 30 January 2006, 09:46 Monday

I am pretty keen on a RB-1092 to partner 803D's ...

Will have to see ... my 1080 will have to take a back seat.

Rgds Steve.

**gianni** · 30 January 2006, 19:44 Monday

Originally posted by RebelMan

Isn't it obvious that Jerry is slowly defecting the Club? It's an agonizing process to see.

Sadly, this seems to be the case. Hopefully there will be something from Rotel to keep his interest even if only in his second system so that he'll at least continue to lurk in the background.

**gianni** · 30 January 2006, 19:51 Monday

At these prices, Rotel is moving into a new price class, especially if there are not susequent lower powered models at lower prices in this series. This price level opens the door to many other high quality amplifiers which one might consider. The new Rotels better be darned good.

**GregLett** · 30 January 2006, 20:33 Monday

Music Systems

http://www.rotel.com/products/stereo-power-amplifiers.htm

Rotel music systems feature stereo components including integrated amplifiers, stereo amplifiers, stereo preamplifiers, DACs, and CD Players.

amps added to the site.

**Kevin D** · 30 January 2006, 21:31 Monday

Originally posted by gianni

At these prices, Rotel is moving into a new price class, especially if there are not susequent lower powered models at lower prices in this series. This price level opens the door to many other high quality amplifiers which one might consider. The new Rotels better be darned good.

I'm not really seeing that. They had a 380x2 amp for $2000, now they have a 500x2 amp for $2500. I don't see that as moving into a new price class..

Kevin D.

**Stevebez** · 20 February 2006, 07:38 Monday

Guys I am convinced I read a review of the 1091/2 and for the life of me cannot find the article ... from what I recall the reviewer was blown away by the newbies. Maybe I am losing my marbles... and imagining things.

Anyone recall the review ? All net searches turned up blank.

Rgds Steve.

**spinners** · 25 February 2006, 16:36 Saturday

Rotel RB-1092
"Exclusive test of modestly-sized stereo power amp that can boast over 600W per channel"

This was on hifinews.com, wich is a british magazine. Sadly enough it will not de on the internet, somehow you will have to get your hands on the march edition of the magazine.

spinners.

**Race Car Driver** · 26 February 2006, 01:09 Sunday

600 watts....... hrm..

**Kevin D** · 26 February 2006, 01:21 Sunday

Well, Rotel often under-rates it's amps. Plus by design it will double as the ohm load is halved. That's 1000 watts into 4ohms. I could get a 1091 and replace my sub amp.... hmmm...

Kevin D.

**DrJRapp** · 26 February 2006, 07:13 Sunday

Originally posted by bleeding ears

Jerry I would love to see some pics of your new speakers.

Perhaps you could tell us a little more about the speaker/amp combination you have set up, and post some pics?

Are you running the Nuforce amps?

Why not B&W speakers?

Maybe a review in a new thread with your thoughts?

Pete

Now that I have some time on The Summit and have them positioned and tuned to perfection, I'm about to post that review with some pics, within the next 24 hours. For those of you that think I have abandoned the Club, my answer is NO WAY. I am however slowly abandoning Rotel gear. That relationship has been going down hill for nearly a year because of reliability and performance issues.

**miner** · 26 February 2006, 13:36 Sunday

Just replaced my RB-1070 amp (right channel blown - sent to Rotel for repair) with a RB-1092. Will review after breakin - approx. 200 hrs. of use.

**Race Car Driver** · 26 February 2006, 16:34 Sunday

Nice!

**bigburner** · 27 February 2006, 05:31 Monday

Originally posted by miner

Just replaced my RB-1070 amp (right channel blown - sent to Rotel for repair) with a RB-1092. Will review after breakin - approx. 200 hrs. of use.

miner, I accept that a mechanical device such as a speaker can change after a period of use but I'm a bit sceptical when it comes to solid state devices. So when I read that you intend to wait for 200 hours of break-in before you provide us with a review I'm suspicious that you experienced initial disappointment with the performance of your new RB-1092 compared to your old RB-1070 and are hoping that it will improve over time. True or false?

**spinners** · 27 February 2006, 08:36 Monday

Miner, please let us all know how it sounds. We don't care if it's broken in yet!

please?

**miner** · 27 February 2006, 09:06 Monday

Originally posted by bigburner

miner, I accept that a mechanical device such as a speaker can change after a period of use but I'm a bit sceptical when it comes to solid state devices. So when I read that you intend to wait for 200 hours of break-in before you provide us with a review I'm suspicious that you experienced initial disappointment with the performance of your new RB-1092 compared to your old RB-1070 and are hoping that it will improve over time. True or false?

Absolutely FALSE!
I am very impressed with the out of box performance. The salesman, who is very knowledgable with all 2 ch products they sell, mentioned the breakin time (he suggested leaving on for 24 hrs//day for 7-10 days). I was surprised though to not see balanced connections (XLR). The size/wt is unbelievable for 500 watts/ch. The bass extension pleasantly surprised me. Although I use a ASW800 with my B&W 804N, the 804s dig pretty deep now - deeper than with the 1070. I was contemplating the upgrade to a 1080 BUT I am happy to have made the 1092 choice. Tje soundstage seems to be more refined now, not as dispersed (wide) as with the 1070. $2250 was the price I paid.

**bigburner** · 28 February 2006, 05:47 Tuesday

Originally posted by miner

Absolutely FALSE!
I am very impressed with the out of box performance.

That's great!

The 1092 is definitely a potential future upgrade path for me.

RB-1091 & RB-1092 now shipping.

RB-1091 & RB-1092 now shipping.

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