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  • chinets
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 855

    #1

    Will Rotel drive B&W N803 and N804?? URGENT

    What Amp to use with with N803 & N804???

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    I am 50%-50% Music listner of all types of Music and an avid HT fan so I have upgraded from B&W 703 front,704 rear and now since one week NEW N803 front and N804 rear and ASW850 Sub, Center HTM1, and Rotel 1065 Amp which 100 watts. for 5.1.
    My problem is that Rotel 1065 with B&W 703,704 the sound was Agressive and full range( which I love) and brought the lows and highs to its best, but now with N803 and N804 the sound is quite flat with Rotel 1065 as I believe not enough watts. It sounds quite good on bleeding high volume and brings out all the Bass and Mids perfect but the volume must be quite high to enjoy and that bothers me and the family.
    I have just ordered the Rotel 1095 Amp which is 5.1 /200 watts per channel and the processor 1098 by Rotel..Will that do the job to drive the speakers at low volume so that they have their full dynamic range of lows and highs at low volumes and make them sing??? Or should I seriously look into another Amp. or is this more that sufficient.??For the time being, I am excersizing my new speakers by breaking them in with the Rotel 1065 but my new Amp./ Proces. will arrive in three weeks. I got the the Amp. and Processor for $5600 which I have not paid yet and can switch to any other model to drive these beautiful speakers. Do you think I should get what I ordered or spend more money well spent on lets say Krell or any other Amp. and Processor which would last for years to come and feel I did the best to get my speakers singing and not have to upgrade next year for example. I just want to get the best performance out these speakers without blowing them. I listen to Rock,Jazz,R & B, Pop, all types of Music and half the time watch Movies. So please help me URGENTLY as I have to make a decision immediately and I am totally confused because the Rotel at high volume is driving the N803 and N804 well but at high volumes so wouldn't the 1095/1098 be sufficient as they are very classy components and give very clean sound??????????????? I respect all comments please??!!!
  • shadow
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2003
    • 315

    #2
    Geeez, stop running the same thread three different times!! How selfish can you get?? Where the hell is your etiquette??? :roll:

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    • chinets
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 855

      #3
      Sorry it is the first time that I send anything and I had no idea it went through the first time...Sorry!!! I was not being selfish...Iwas just confused. Can someone make a mistake...easy does it ,no need to get mad. I will not do that again final. If i hurt your feelings or spoilt your fun on the net...well I'm sorry!!! At least could you help instead of critisizing me. That would earn you a blessing instaed of getting upset. we are all human here..right???

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      • shadow
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2003
        • 315

        #4
        Actually you posted variations on the thread three times and based on your breathless style in each thread it sounds like you cannot wait for your next breath, let alone for your post to appear on the forum. However, I hope you get the assistance you have asked for.

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        • Kens1
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2005
          • 191

          #5
          Yeah - slow down or you will regret the decision you make.

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          • Aussie Geoff
            Super Senior Member
            • Oct 2003
            • 1914

            #6
            Chinets,

            The RMB- 1095 will drive the B&W 803 and 804 adequately for Home theatre and acceptably for stereo. For more money there are amps which sound better (how much depends on personal taste). For example Rotels RB-1090 or those from Krell, Classe, Earthquake etc. However enjoy your system (you have ordered the RMB-1095 and if in a year or two's time you have plumbed the depths of the RMB-1095 and want more - then try other more expensive brands (Club B&W will be happy to help).

            Geoff

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            • pembroke
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 29

              #7
              Upgrade 1095 2 channel sound

              Chinets,
              I see from another thread you went ahead and bought the 1095. If you want to improve the stereo qualty take a look at the Musical Fidelty X-10 V3 Tube Buffer, $399.
              I bought it a couple of weeks ago and it's made a huge difference, it takes away the digital harshness and cleans up the soundstage. It's the most significant upgrade I've made at this price level, and helped me enjoy music again.

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              • Kobus
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2005
                • 402

                #8
                Chinets, how is the 1095 with your 803's, especially in bass/punch.

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                • PiDD
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 240

                  #9
                  Geeez, stop running the same thread three different times!! How selfish can you get?? Where the hell is your etiquette???
                  What is with all the bashing lately ... if you dont like the post just ignore it. If this keeps up people will just stop posting. Please people have some patience and respect others.

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                  • Parsonsk
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 101

                    #10
                    wow, shadow, take a frickn pill man, you're going to blow your driver.

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                    • Kevin D
                      Ultra Senior Member
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 4601

                      #11
                      I'll take up for Shadow since I'm accused of being a jerk sometimes too. If you would have noticed this thread is two months old. On the particular day this thread was started, 'chinets' had started two other threads requesting immediate and urgent help for the same problem. Essentially 'chinets' was upset that no one would answer his question to his satisfaction within an hour and started bombarding the forum with the same demands..

                      Kevin D.

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                      • RobP
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 4747

                        #12
                        Is there a impatient rudeness virus spreading around this site or is it just the high fuel prices? I have read several post from different clubs on this site and the level of rudeness is really starting to get bad. Has anyone else noticed this?
                        Robert P. 8)

                        AKA "Soundgravy"

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                        • RobP
                          Ultra Senior Member
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 4747

                          #13
                          By the way Chinets, how does that 1095 work for your N803's? I am considering the same setup.
                          Robert P. 8)

                          AKA "Soundgravy"

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                          • pembroke
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 29

                            #14
                            Well Soundgravy I'm not Chinets, but did have a 1095 driving N803's for over a year, and can report that the combination works very well together. The 1095 is really incredible value, to improve on the 1095 you are looking to pay a minimum of $5k. For HT applications the 803/1095 combination worked fine, but I found that for serious 2 channel listening the 803's excel with a more refined power source.

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                            • RebelMan
                              Ultra Senior Member
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 3139

                              #15
                              pembroke, what other power source did you find to sound better than the RMB-1095 for two-channel listening?
                              "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today."

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                              • pembroke
                                Junior Member
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 29

                                #16
                                I was using a Bryston4BSST for the front left and right, and the 1095 for center and rear (the Bryston was part of my old stereo setup). It would have been great if I could have used the 1095 on its own so I tried giving the 1095 a month as the sole power amp, and eliminated the 4B. It didn't work, the Bryston was smoother and less harsh. Time has moved on, the 1095 is now gone - the Bryston will be sold on Audigon. I'm now running an Anthem Statement P5, which I was shocked to find more detailed and less harsh than the Bryston! In an earlier post I recommended the Musical Fidelity tube buffer, this softened the Rotel - but also everything else.

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                                • stewfoo
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jul 2005
                                  • 275

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Aussie Geoff
                                  Chinets,

                                  The RMB- 1095 will drive the B&W 803 and 804 adequately for Home theatre and acceptably for stereo. For more money there are amps which sound better (how much depends on personal taste). For example Rotels RB-1090 or those from Krell, Classe, Earthquake etc.

                                  Geoff

                                  Geoff, I have asked this before... I just haven't gotten a good answer from anyone that wasn't a dealer..... You put earthquake in the same category as Krell and Classe???? I can get Earthquake for dealer cost. But, I decided to go with Rotel. Is Earthquake a better amp than my 1095??? Just curioushelp

                                  Thanks for your
                                  Stew
                                  Stew

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                                  • PewterTA
                                    Super Senior Member
                                    • Nov 2004
                                    • 2900

                                    #18
                                    Earthquake better than the 1095, yes, most definitely.... It will take much better control of the speakers than the 1095 will. I have the 1095 and had I been able to afford it I would've gone with the Earthquake.

                                    Also (MSRP) is a lot more too...
                                    Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                                    -Dan

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                                    • Kobus
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Aug 2005
                                      • 402

                                      #19
                                      Will bi-amping 803's with the 1095 make a real difference for stereo.

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