It's the 23rd, any RSP-1098 Sightings?

[skipm]

Just kidding. Those that pre-ordered we will give you till lunch time to go pick it up, and then of course you have to take the rest of the afternoon off to set it up and prepare a complete review and post so the rest of us can pick ours up tomorrow.

-Skip

[Danbry39]

When I spoke to one of the local Rotel dealers, he said that the 23rd was when the supplier would get them. He felt it would take a few days after before he got his hands on one to demo in his store.

Hope this helps.




Keith

[skipm]

Dan-

Thanx for the update. The 4 component video ports is the primary reason I'm thinking about purchasing one. It will be nice to receive some real world input since I know a few people around here have them pre-ordered. I hope it lives up to it's specs.

-Skip

[Jim Mc]

Today was my birthday and I was hoping to here from my dealer. I stopped holding my breath weeks ago. I was so blue.

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[Danbry39]

Jim ,

Happy Birthday!!!

8x) ;b>'>
:^x ' arty:




Keith

[skipm]

Jim-

Ditto what he said. (Happy Birthday!) Just remember, good things come to those that wait.

-Skip

[Jim Mc]

Thank you both very much for the Birthday wishes. I do hope the 1098 is a good thing because we have sure been waiting.

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[Andrew Pratt]

Happy birthday Jim. Can you do me a favour and edit your profile and then add some (url) and (/url) tags around that link so it's "clickable". You'll have to use [] brakets instead of the round ones though

[Jim Mc]

Well now my dealer tells me they are saying shipments are to begin around July 1, with all orders filled by the end of July.

Ya right?!?!?!?!?!

I am beginning to think maybe I'll just wait and see what comes later in the year. Something with DVI switching would be more up to date as things are headed that way.

Signed,
Ticked

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[skipm]

Jim-

Keep the faith! You've waited this long. July 1st is next week. You have to get one so you can tell us all about it. (grin)

That DVI thing is not all it's cracked up to be. First is the copy protection aspect, they can down rez you video anytime they want and two, I know it's all digital and will give you a better picture if everything is perfect, but you lose the ability to make any adjsutments. With the 4 component video inputs that the 1098 has, you can connect your STB, DVD, ReplayTV (in my case), and your D-VHS VCR, plus, you can adjust the picture till your heart's content.

Seriously, the first week in July is not that far off.

-Skip

[Hoepfl]

Rotel told me the 1098 will not be able to be upgraded to DVI input for SACD/DVD-Audio.

In the future players will have this for both audio and video.

Would have been nice if the 1098 had this.

If I get this then I know that I will have to upgrade AGAIN (!) in 1-2 years.....

Cheers
Mark

[Jim Mc]

DVI input for SACD/DVD-Audio???????

I didn't know these are associated items. I thought the DVI was a video thing.

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[Hoepfl]

Yup,

One digital connection vs 6 analog ones...

go to:
http://www.hdmi.com for info.

Cheers
Mark

[jaakan]

the standerd digital Audio output for DVDA and SACD players and transports is Firewire and not DVI. ON DVD players DVI is Video only!
on HD boxs, DVI is currently Video only too!

[Jim Mc]

the standerd digital Audio output for DVDA and SACD players and transports is Firewire and not DVI.

I did not think there is a standard digital connection for DVDA and SACD, this due to copyright issues. In fact Pioneer is about the only company that can make the point to point digital connection and only because they jumped in and made a connection choice.

Mark,
HDMI is not even a finalized standard yet.

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[Hoepfl]

did you look on the website?

one DVI-HDMI cable will carry both high def. video AND 6 channels of audio information!

it's coming!

i understand the 1098 will not have this as DVI-HDMI has only just been released but if i buy it i know i will still have to upgrade again.....

food for thought...

cheers
mark

[jaakan]

Most of the DVD players ( base transport ) used are in fact Pioneer or Philips transports.

the new Sony 9000es SACD player will have firewire this fall.
Sony and Philips are now supporting Firewire, the copyright issue is over.

http://www.audiorevolution.com/news/0603/10.sony.shtml


"The SCD-XA9000ES is also Sony's first Super Audio CD player to offer an i.LINK® digital output, making it ideal for use with the new generation of outboard DSD converters. The i.LINK (IEEE 1394) interface has been specifically designed to support the new "5C" Digital Transmission Content Protection and is also fully compliant with the latest Super Audio CD format specifications. "

http://www.dvdforum.com/forum.shtml

Guideline of Transmission and Control for DVD-Video/Audio through IEEE1394 Bus - Firewire look under tech on the side menu

Tag Maclaren ( sorry about the spelling ) has a Controller with DVI switching and a DVD transport with DVI both are video ONLY!

[Scarp]

Sure, the tagmclaren av192r has dvi switching, but that machine is at least $10.000!

Any sightings of the 1098?

[skipm]

Sony TV's have had firewire (i.Link) for a couple of years now. The only problem is that it's been one-way so it's basically useless. Plus, when you consider Sony's ties to the entertainment industry, they are going to look out for their own best interest, not ours. Don't get me wrong, I like Sony, I have a whole house full of it, heck my wife is Japanese (she's not a Sony though, grin).

No RSP-1098 sightings yet. I have my spies on the lookout though.

-Skip

[Andrew Pratt]

my sources tell me it won't be long now....

[skipm]

Actually I lied, I saw a couple last nite. One was in "The Perfect Vision" magazine, another one was in "Sound & Vision" magazine, and last but not least I spied one in "Home Theater" magazine. (grin)

What a tease! Reminds me of my high school days.

-Skip

[Matt Sprouls]

Time to start a pool for the date.

I'll take Sept 1, 2003. Thought I better include the year since we could be going into 2004 on this.


Matt

[Danbry39]

Msprouls,

LOL.

Okay, my guess is July 18, my wedding anniversary.

Do we win anything if we're closest???

Maybe, well you know, something by Rotel, something new, something most of us lust after...




Keith

[Jim Mc]

Well I just got off the phone with my dealer. As far as he knows Rotel has not shipped any 1098s yet. The last he was told was they were still dealing with software issues. (Maybe vaporware) :?

I am placing my bet on Feb 30, 2004.


BTW can anyone tell me why I can not get the forum to retain my name and password? I have it set up in my profile.

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[Danbry39]

BTW can anyone tell me why I can not get the forum to retain my name and password? I have it set up in my profile.

I was having the same problem a while back. In order to get it to work, I first typed in my password before checking the options and pressing the modify button. I went right back to check if it had worked, it hadn't, so I did it again. This time, the new settings took hold. Go figure. :roll:




Keith

[Andrew Pratt]

Last I hear (June 25th) they were being flown to the US that week.

[Jim Mc]

Well here is the latest from David Baker of Rotel sales/marketing.

"I believe I have some good news, we are receiving a batch the week of July 7th. They still have to clear customs and QC. When they do we should start shipping the RSP-1098. I would guess the week of July 14th. You mentioned your dealer is in Michigan, can you let me know who it is so I will make sure that I allocate one to them, also what finish did you order?

Again thanks for you patience and support."

So I am hopeful that it will be sooner than later.

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[Danbry39]

Jim you must be jazzed that David is going to make sure that one is sent to your dealer out of that first batch. That really is a nice touch. :T You know we're all itching to know your first impressions. You are now to be known as King Jim here at Club Rotel. ;x(




Keith

[gostan]

King Jim

I would love to hear a report from you or anybody else about the rsp-1098. Maybe you and your dealer could make arrangements for me to pick up your unit at Rotel here in Massachusetts and I could try it our for you for a few days (I mean personally deliver it to you in Michigan) of course.

Seriously, I have a silver 1075-1066 on order. Apparently the silver 1066's are currently out of stock at Rotel. While the price of the 1098 is like double the 1066, my dealer would give me a better price for an upfront purchase than a later trade-in. But I am a little reluctant to pulling that switch without knowing more about the 1098 from real users. How much better will a 1098 sound than a 1066, which is a great piece on its own. I know it has that cool lcd, new dacs and new Cirrus 32 bit processing, but what else?? And then again, I am upgrading from a few week old 1055. I have been planning a processing-power upgrade for some time, but I have caught this bad (real bad) Rotel bug.

Best of luck with your new RSP-1098. Report back when you receive it.

[skipm]

Jim-

That's great news! I may have to head on down to my local Rotel dealer and put down a deposit. The last time I spoke to him he had 3 on order. One was to be for display and someone else already had a deposit down on one of the 2 remaining. I actually doubt if he will be able to get 3 units out of this first batch.

Again, thanx for the update and Happy 4th everyone!

-Skip

[Scarp]

I ordered my 1098 also last week.

However I guess USA is first again, if you look at the USA Rotel website, then it says "July". When you look at the "global" Rotel website, then it says "July/August" ... I do hope at the end of this month, because also my svs pc+ 20-39 should arrive around that time too (man, you guys are so lucky, we pay 125 dollar transport costs + 25% on taxes and stuff).

[Danbry39]

because also my svs pc+ 20-39 should arrive around that time too (man, you guys are so lucky, we pay 125 dollar transport costs + 25% on taxes and stuff).

The shipping charge to the Netherlands doesn't surprise me that much, but 25% taxes on top of that is a pretty big hit. Anyway, from what I heard, it should still be a pretty good deal compared to a lot of subs, even for those prices. Let us know how you like it.

And, wow, any time you add a 1098 and an SVS 20-39 is a pretty good month...or two as the case may be. Congratulations.




Keith

[Scarp]

because also my svs pc+ 20-39 should arrive around that time too (man, you guys are so lucky, we pay 125 dollar transport costs + 25% on taxes and stuff).

The shipping charge to the Netherlands doesn't surprise me that much, but 25% taxes on top of that is a pretty big hit. Anyway, from what I heard, it should still be a pretty good deal compared to a lot of subs, even for those prices. Let us know how you like it.

And, wow, any time you add a 1098 and an SVS 20-39 is a pretty good month...or two as the case may be. Congratulations.

19% VAT + 4.5% customstax. Also the transporter company wants a few %. However for this one I get below the price of a B&W ASW 675, and the svs outperforms that one completely.

Anyway ... lets wait for the 1098

[skipm]

Well, I did it. I just got back from placing a deposit on a silver 1098/1075 combo. I can't wait. It had better not be too much longer. I hate to buy something like this sight unseen but I figure once they start rolling in and the reviews start showing up they may be hard to come by. A lot of people are waiting on this puppy. Anyway, you guys will be the second to know when it arrives and I guess this almost makes me a card carrying member of the club.

Now comes the toughest part ... what to tell the wife.

-Skip

[Andrew Pratt]

Way to go on the order ;lx

[Barry Lieberman]

Well, as a Rotel Dealer I can tell everyone that I will be getting my first hands on look at the 1098 on Friday. After that, I was told that general shipping will begin two weeks from monday.

Barry Lieberman
Audio Command Systems
Boca Raton, FL

[Scarp]

The manual !!!!

http://www.rotel.com/support/pdfs/manuals/rsp1098.pdf

[skipm]

Barry: We expect a blow by blow accounting as soon as you finish.

Scarp: You 'da man!

-Skip

[Scarp]

Initial thoughts on the manual:
Too bad only composite video signals can be used on the TFT panel.

I do hope the bass management works as advertised, since it looks impressive. Its possible to select a different crossover for each speaker groups (fronts, rears, side surrounds, center). Its possible to select also the type of speaker (large/small) for each of those groups. Also the ability to set the type of speaker for the source type (dts/dd/stereo/mpeg).
This gives the possibility to set your fronts to Large for stereo sources and not use the sub for that and to small for surround sources and use a sub for that. Also when u have big fronts and small rears and still want to use the subwoofer crossovers you can tune exactly to your correct crossover.

Also there is a startup volume setting.

Many of the things asked for 1066 have been answered by the 1098. Offcourse its price is higher

Ow yeah ... multi-input bassmanagement is explained now ... you can choose to let it by a total analog bypass, which only does volume (and tone i think) control on the input. Or you can choose to let it combine everything under 100 Hz together and generate a subwoofer channel for you.

[skipm]

I do recall reading a blurb somewhere about the TFT display being composite video input only. I didn't know what it mean't at the time but now I guess it means that I need to buy and hook up 5 composite cables to my video sources, (DVD, PVR, VCR, STB, and Cable) if I want the video displayed on the TFT. I was hoping to reduce the number of patch cables, not increase it. Plus, some devices like the Sony HD-200 SAT box don't output video signals at the same time across all outputs.

-Skip

[Scarp]

yup...thats unfortunate. Its probably a technical issue, so the TFT just doesn't handle s-video/component and there is no "downsampling" from s-video/component to composite in the machine either (which you don't want to do anyway).

However, I find this TFT feature most usefull for my dvd-audio player anyway, that way i can still access the menu's for dvd-a without using my TV.

[Andrew Pratt]

I'm looking forward to playing with one of these beasts. The advancements are nice to see given most are things we asked for in the wish list thread....told you they were listening

[gostan]

Wow. I took a look at the rsp-1098 manual. The base management choices do look like they may be the answer to all of our needs. Especially those of us into multi-channel music. I may have to think about skipping my 1066 upgrade and go right to the 1098. Unfortunately, I would also have to skip that winter vacation due to the 1098 being twice the price of the 1066. I cannnot wait for some actual user feedback.

[Barry Lieberman]

Well, on Friday July 11, I finally saw (and touched) the infamous 1098. Yes, I can assure all of you it is quite real; although I only saw the black version, so that is all I can attest to!
The 1098 has all of the features that are on everyone's wish list. Variable crossover levels for all speakers, distance calibration in feet, video transcoding, 2nd zone audio and video, true modular construction and a whole lot more. Unfortunately we were unable to hear the Rotel in action as it had to continue down its dealer parade, but it will be available soon and I'm sure that someone in our office will be buying one (perhaps myself if I can find a buyer for a gently used RSX-1065).

I honestly can't even remember all of the features that are loaded into its chassis, but here's a couple more: Level adjustments for different source material (DD vs. PLII vs. DTS, etc..), Really bright TFT screen (Images will actually look better on the black version due to higher perceived contrast ratio vs. the partially reflective silver face), RS-232 (of course), HDCD(of course) and tons more that I already forgot.

Now I have to find a way to figure out how it sounds! Maybe I'll just suck it up and buy one, as they are a steal.....especially at my price! :LOL:

Barry Lieberman
Audio Command Systems
Boca Raton, FL

[skipm]

Barry-

Thanx for the update. You are indeed a lucky person in that you actually got to see and touch one. Please don't tell me that there is only one in the U.S. and they have to take it around to every Rotel dealer before they start selling them! (grin)

I've been through the manual a number of times now and I can't get over how something as complicated as the 1098 seems to be so easy to use. I currently own a Denon AVR-3803, which I love, but it's a bear to setup and configure correctly and the manual is of no help whatsoever.

I've been reading the reviews for the other pre/pros from Parasound, Lexicon, and others and I don't see where they have anything on the 1098, plus they are more than twice as much. Also, in a few cases they appear to be using the same video and audio DACs.

Kudos to Rotel for pulling it off at this price point.

Okay, enough kissin' up. Where's my 1098! (grin)

-Skip