Jc1

[wettou]

How do you like the monoblock JC1 have you compared to Classé or other high end!

[Peter Nielsen]

Let the search function be your friend. Jesse has owned both, and his preference was towards the JC1. However, there is no definitive answer as it also depends on what speakers you have. Check these two threads...

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=25113

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=27295

Both are without doubt great amps, but personally I feel that the JC1 offers more value for the dollar spent. If you want to support Canadian labor, buy Classe Parasound amps are built in Taiwan which reflects the excellent value for the money...

Peter

[wettou]

Parasound amps are built in Taiwan which reflects the excellent value for the money...Peter

Thank you Peter, still very expensive for something built in Taiwan!!

I just love the look of the Classé I am a sucker for design

I was just wondering sound wise!

[Peter Nielsen]

Thank you Peter, still very expensive for something built in Taiwan!!!

Well, it depends on the dealer. With the dealers I had at hand when I got my nine JC-1s in 2005/2006, the Classé M-400 was almost 3 times the price of the JC-1...

I just love the look of the Classé I am a sucker for design

Classé also has some very cool features like Ethernet connectivity...

I was just wondering sound wise!

The difference is subtle. The only way to get a definite answer is to audition both amps with YOUR speakers.

Peter

[wettou]

It is true the Classé CAM-400 are pricey that is the problem with the line, you get what you pay for it is just like suits if you want a Brioni suit ($6,000) vs a Men's whearhouse suit ($299)

[Peter Nielsen]

Well, the MSRP between the JC-1 and the M400 does not differ much.

What I said was that my Classe dealer does not discount - not a cent! He wants to keep the full profit (the margins are big on High End audio, usually 50% or more).

So my friendly out-of-state Parasound dealer discounted 50% (not much profit for him), and my in-state Classe dealer demanded MSRP+sales tax. As a result the Classe suddenly was a lot more expensive.

Just because a dealer wants a huge profit does not give you more value for the money, does it? :B

Ergo, you don't always get what you pay for. There is always dealer profit involved. (Of course, if you need a lot of dealer support paying MSRP may actually give you more for the money if you have dealer that is providing support corresponding to the profit you're putting in his pockets).

Another good example is that yesterday I picked up a $20 eSata cable from BestBuy just because I needed it right away. If I only had the time to wait, I could have picked up the exact same cable (brand new, same manufacturer) on eBay for $6 (shipping included!).

Peter

[wettou]

Well, the MSRP between the JC-1 and the M400 does not differ much. What I said was that my Classe dealer does not discount - not a cent! He wants to keep the full profit (the margins are big on High End audio, usually 50% or more). So my friendly out-of-state Parasound dealer discounted 50% (not much profit for him), and my in-state Classe dealer demanded MSRP+sales tax. As a result the Classe suddenly was a lot more expensive.

Just because a dealer wants a huge profit does not give you more value for the money, does it? :B

Ergo, you don't always get what you pay for. There is always dealer profit involved. (Of course, if you need a lot of dealer support paying MSRP may actually give you more for the money if you have dealer that is providing support corresponding to the profit you're putting in his pockets). Peter

Unfortunately, Peter can you email me your friend Parasound Dealer I might be very interested I also have to pay sales taxes and I agree that Classé has a 50% profit margin. There is a reason it is called Audio Jewelry