Halo + Electra

[ColaBoy]

Hi,
I need some more amps for my main speakers (Electra 926), and I really like the look and build of the Halo series. Would the A23 be a good choice or should I choose the A21?

I also plan to upgrade to the never Electra 1027BE in 2007, so the amp must also match them.

Sorry about the horrible English..

[lvhung]

Try Plinius 9100 or 9200 better suited with Jmlab

[kfr01]

It depends on the size of your room and listening habits.

Small to medium sized room and moderate listening levels, the A23 would be a perfect choice.


Having said that, I've heard those speakers with Musical Fidelity A5 integrated and was very impressed. Very liquid.

[Chris D]

Hi, Colaboy, and welcome to Club Parasound and the Guide! :banana:

I'm not familiar with those speakers. What are their specs, specifically the sensitivity (db/W) and the rated power handling?

[ColaBoy]

Hi!

Speakers:
Sensitivity: 91dB
Nominal impedance: 8 ohm
Minimum impedance: 3,2 ohm
Max.PowerHandling: 200W

Today I’m using a Yamaha RX-V1500, and this receiver are not doing very well with my Electra’s.

Plinius and Musical Fidelity are not easy to buy, in my little country.

[alebonau]

Hi!

Speakers:
Sensitivity: 91dB
Nominal impedance: 8 ohm
Minimum impedance: 3,2 ohm
Max.PowerHandling: 200W

Today I’m using a Yamaha RX-V1500, and this receiver are not doing very well with my Electra’s.

Plinius and Musical Fidelity are not easy to buy, in my little country.

hows about a bit of your home grown ?

from electrocompaniet ?

http://www.electrocompaniet.no/

somethign like the eci3 integrated

http://www.electrocompaniet.no/products/integrated/eci3.html

or the eci5 maybe worth a try. that said have heard a few people now that the focal electra 926 and new 1027be are a good match for MF amps.

[Chris D]

Colaboy, that's not bad on those specs. Unless you listen at high volumes, I think the A23 would be fine for you. Now if you're looking to listen at high volumes, or want to have amplifiers that could handle speakers upgrades in the future that would be harder to drive, then go ahead and step on up to the A21.

[ColaBoy]

The EC brand is sadly no longer as great as it was, new owners with only $$$ priority has damaged this once high quality brand.

I like it loud, so I guess the A21 are on my top list know.

[kfr01]

You should note that the move from 125w to 250w only provides 3db of increased headroom. Unless you have a large room and listen at ear damaging levels, you'll never notice the difference.

That said, I understand buying for headroom and flexibility in the future; thus, my 350x2 amp. You should just realize that you're not buying much audible and practical SPL difference.

[ColaBoy]

You should note that the move from 125w to 250w only provides 3db of increased headroom. Unless you have a large room and listen at ear damaging levels, you'll never notice the difference

Ok, so that means that I could also choose the A52 and be happy?

[Peter Nielsen]

Remember that pushing an amp that is too small may create clipping so bad that it blows the speaker. You often don't even hear this before your speaker (midrange or tweeter) is dead...

The opposite is much better. If the amp is "too big", it will not clip. Instead the speaker (woofer) will bottom out, and you'll hear it before any damage is done.

Peter

[kfr01]

What Peter says is true, but don't necessarily let it scare you into going for the bigger amp.

Most people, I think, have no idea how little power they use when listening at moderate volume levels with easy to drive speakers.

If you have a 90db, relatively flat 8ohm, easy to drive speaker in a small to moderately sized room, and 125w of honest power --- your ears are taking -severe- damage before you're clipping the amplifier badly enough to blow the speaker.

With the above setup, most folks don't touch even touch 30wpc other than during extreme transient passages.

So, I suggest answering a few questions:

a) What size is your room?
b) Are these speakers for HT or Stereo use, or both?
c) What decibel level do you normally listen at?
d) Does the impedence of your speakers drop below 4-ohms under 2khz? .. or otherwise present a difficult load for amplifiers?
e) Do you ever plan to use an equalizer?

Regardless, the headroom difference really is only around 3db. If you're foolish with the volume control, it won't matter how big your amp is, something will break.

[ColaBoy]

a) What size is your room?
b) Are these speakers for HT or Stereo use, or both?
c) What decibel level do you normally listen at?
d) Does the impedence of your speakers drop below 4-ohms under 2khz? .. or otherwise present a difficult load for amplifiers?
e) Do you ever plan to use an equalizer?

a) About 24m2
b) Both
c) I don’t know, the level on my Yamaha volume says "-17db".
d) Do this help?: "Nominal impedance: 8 ohm, Minimum impedance: 3,2 ohm"
e) The next on my list are a C2, is there an equalizer in the C2?

Thanks for everybody’s input, I have now ordered an A52.

[Ends]

I have the JM Labs Electra 926's (cir 2005) running on a Halo C2 with the A51. I think if you have a small room that the A52/A23 would work just fine, although - I would wonder why buy the 926's if you had a small room? So I would think that you would want the extra power. The Electra's can handle the watts and I believe the A51 pushes the Electra's to its very best IMO. :T

[ColaBoy]

Hi, the Electra’s where not on list at all when buying new speakers, but I got a very-very great deal on them, so..

The A52 have so far impressed me very much, my speakers are reborn and I love the "new" sound they now have, a little more "funky" sound I guess. And much more of everything, happy owner!