While waiting on a new pair of 804's I sold my cm9's and some darn kid put his finger through the tweeter on my cm5's so all I had left was a little pair of 686's that were used as surrounds in my kids tv room.I had forgotten that these were the 1st b&w speakers I had ever bought and how they started me off on the audio craze.So they were all that was left to use in my main room for front speakers and while they are by no means cm9's or 5's holy shit these little speakers sound good. It's really hard to believe the big sound that is coming from them.