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  • pcapetown
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 1

    #1

    b&W 683 to 804 Diamond - advice please

    Hello all,

    I have a pair of B&W 683s that are 18 months old and I am considering upgrade. I could go to CM9 but can afford the 804 Diamonds. I have a Cambridge Audio system - Azur 840C CD player/840A Integrated Amp/840W power amp. My room is about 9 x 5 x 4m. I listen to a broad range of music, more rock/pop/female singers/blues/guitarists than classical but a mix.

    Will the Cambridge Audio drive the 804s ok?
    I am recommended new speaker cables/interconnects - as mine are pretty shop standard (IXOS etc). Kimber Monocle speaker cables for example. Are these too over the top for my system?

    Please, any advice would be truly helpful.

    Thanks

    Peter
  • stuofsci02
    Super Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1241

    #2
    Your amp will be fine to power the 804Di... I will not make a recommendation on cables etc...
    Main System:
    B&W 801D
    Emotiva USP-1 Pre-Amp
    Chord SPM-650 Stereo Amp
    Oppo BDP-105
    Squeezebox Touch


    Second System:
    B&W CM7
    Emotiva UMC-1
    Emotiva UPA-2
    Oppo BDP-83SE
    Grant Fidelity DAC-09

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    • sgtjim57
      Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 85

      #3
      Just purchased a pair of 804S and huge upgrade over my 600 series 3.
      Sony Bravia OLED A1E 55"
      SVS SB 2000 X 2
      Denon X4000 (Looking to upgrade due to 4K, ATMOS, DTSX)
      Oppo BDP 93
      Apple TV 4K
      B & W N804 Mains
      B & W 603 Rear surrounds
      B & W LCR 600 Center
      B & W CDS6 (Not in use)
      Sony TA N77ES (Not in use)

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      • dukester
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 198

        #4
        If you can afford them, I recommend the 804Di. IMO, if you audition them side-by-side, you will hear their superior clarity and openess over the CM9 (not that the CM9 are bad). You'll just have to decide if the 804Di premium is worth it to you.

        As for cables, i am currently comparing two sets as i write. Have about 100+ hrs on some new 'premium' cables i acquired from a friend. I'll be switching back in a few days to see if my ears are good enough to hear a difference (cable skeptic). If not signifigant then why upgrade?
        McIntosh C2300/MC302, NAD T785, Oppo 83se & 105, Squeezebox Touch, AppleTV, B&W 803Di/HTM2Di/M1, REL G1, Sony XBR9, PS3

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        • Dmantis
          Super Senior Member
          • Jun 2004
          • 1037

          #5
          Originally posted by pcapetown
          Hello all,

          I have a pair of B&W 683s that are 18 months old and I am considering upgrade. I could go to CM9 but can afford the 804 Diamonds. I have a Cambridge Audio system - Azur 840C CD player/840A Integrated Amp/840W power amp. My room is about 9 x 5 x 4m. I listen to a broad range of music, more rock/pop/female singers/blues/guitarists than classical but a mix.

          Will the Cambridge Audio drive the 804s ok?
          I am recommended new speaker cables/interconnects - as mine are pretty shop standard (IXOS etc). Kimber Monocle speaker cables for example. Are these too over the top for my system?

          Please, any advice would be truly helpful.

          Thanks

          Peter
          The 840a is a very nice piece. I have listened to it with many different speakers and always felt it did it's job very well. it's clean and balanced. Cambridge Audio is one of those brands that offer high quality at very affordable prices. I believe you are fine here.

          Cables are difficult , there is so much out there that really over charge for their products and don't offer the sonic benefits per dollar spent. But any cable you use in your system has to meet spec , do it's job correctly without adding or taking anything away from the signal.
          So if you take a few minutes and learn about AWG , this is a huge starting point. Many articles have been written about what gauge per length , watts , ohms etc to achieve the correct size conductor.
          Proper termination is also key.
          Kimber Kable , Ray the owner is a electrical engineer and has very practical and scientific reasons for the way he builds his cables. They are very good and of the highest quality. But I don't see going nuts with spending thousands of dollars on the highest end models. With Kimber you can do a excellent job in your system with the Kimber 4 or 8pr. IC's I would use the PPJ's. Even the 4 or 8vs series is extremely well built and do their jobs very well. I don't see any reason to go higher.
          Another thing you could do to compare cables is check out Cat cables offered on this site. They look to be of very high quality and seem to be very affordable. This way you'll have something to compare to.

          Good luck with your system , looks to be the start of something great.

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          • BVLDARI
            Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 58

            #6
            Originally posted by dukester
            If you can afford them, I recommend the 804Di. IMO, if you audition them side-by-side, you will hear their superior clarity and openess over the CM9 (not that the CM9 are bad). You'll just have to decide if the 804Di premium is worth it to you.

            As for cables, i am currently comparing two sets as i write. Have about 100+ hrs on some new 'premium' cables i acquired from a friend. I'll be switching back in a few days to see if my ears are good enough to hear a difference (cable skeptic). If not signifigant then why upgrade?

            I've heard the 804D2 and the CM9s back to back and the difference is big. I agree, the CM9s are great speakers, but the diamonds are much better. If you can afford it and you plan to keep the speakers for a long time, I would definitely suggest looking at the diamond series.

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            • mjb
              Super Senior Member
              • Mar 2005
              • 1485

              #7
              Go for the best you can afford! You'll get much more enjoyment from the 804's in the long term, especially given your room size. Its true, the diamond tweeters are something special and add considerable clarity. For speaker cables and interconnects, please refer to the advertisers on this site.
              - Mike

              Main System:
              B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
              Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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              • PewterTA
                Super Senior Member
                • Nov 2004
                • 2900

                #8
                Definitely the Diamonds... if you one live once... how often do you buy speakers.... you can't take it with you when you die.... what else more do you need to know!
                Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                -Dan

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