Just out of curiosity, if budgets was an issues, and I need a good amp or two to push 803D or 804di, which would be the best way to go, used Bryston or Rotel and what models? I am looking to do a serious upgrade from Klisph to B&W.
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For those speakers used I'd consider a Rotel RB1080 or a RB1090. Both amps can and will drive those speakers very well.
Bryston SST series amps are simply amazing and are far more expensive even used then Rotel. I also have think they sound much better on demanding speakers as they seem to have limitless power and control. They seem to bring out the very best in all speakers. Every Bryston system I have done was simply amazing.
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The Bryston is going to give you a more "noticeable" high end, almost towards the clinical/sharp end of the spectrum...the Rotels are going to sound a little warmer in comparison. Either one is going to drive the speakers fine though. Of course Bryston is considered more in the range of Classe gear (Rotel is a step under Classe)...just to give you an idea.Digital Audio makes me Happy.
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I went to listen to a set of 804D today and I have to admit they were far more impressive than I thought they would be. I think they would work great for my room size. I will look into a HTM-4D, wth some 8180 and 818 to complete the movie surround sound. Unless I can find some older 803D at a cheaper price. Its hard to pay 7.5K for the 804D, when you could get 803D for that price last year. I will start searching for bryston to see what kind of deals I can get.Originally posted by Dmantis
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Now this clinical/sharpness that the Bryston amp provided you speak of, will that make them seem brighter, maybe negating some of the mid bass? And the Rotel amps with the warmer sound would allow for more mid bass? Or am I looking at this the worng way?Originally posted by PewterTAComment
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In comparison of the 2 amps what he is saying is the Rotel amps are more laid back , warmer means not as much sizzle on the top end . Rotel has a nice pleasing sound and makes for the money excellent products.Originally posted by doviiman
Bryston is on another level. They are detailed and strong with basically limitless power. They provide a level of detail hard matched in our industry. For the money I can't think of any amp thats better for all duties.
Bryston will bring out the best in any speaker , will not make them sound bright , bass heavy or mid range chesty. They will bring out all the best qualities of ones speakers as I have ran so many different speakers on Bryston Amps and found this to be very true.Comment
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Hopefully you can get an opportunity to hear the older 803D. I have heard both the 803D and 804 Diamond and preferred the 804. For me it produced a more natural and refined sound with more clarity. I have not heard the new 803 Diamond but was very impressed by the 804 Diamonds.Originally posted by doviiman
I can vouche for Bryston amps. My 802 Diamonds, HTM2 Diamond and Paradigm Reference Studio 100v2's are powered by a 4B-SST/6B-SST combo and provide crystal clear, solid power to all.B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000Comment
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I see, thanks for the clarity. I have never used seprates amps and pre amps before. This will be a first for me, as I am upgrading from a Denon 4306, which is the most expensive amp I have ever owned.Originally posted by Dmantis
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I think I will eventually end up with the 804D, as I don't think i will find a used pair black 803D anyway. Plus the size of my room may do much better with the 804D's with a HTM4D. The local deal say he has a Classe SSP-800 and a Classe 5200 5 channel amp, he says he's works out a deal with me.. I have to see how that works outs. He say's that the 5200 would run my whole theater room.Originally posted by Rod#SComment
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The Classe will definitely be a good match for the B&W's, many people use Classe with their B&W speakers.B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000Comment
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Well as much as I would love to have the classe amp and SSP. I have to see what prices he is talking about. My hopes is that since I will be buying the 804D and HTM4D hell give me a great deal. If not I will be back to finding maybe a used Bryston for now!Originally posted by Rod#SComment
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Why not the 5300? I believe the new series is much better than the old.B&W 800 Diamond, B&W805S, B&W DB1, Classe SSP 800, DIY Icepower ASX2 600W monos, Ayre QB9, JPlay.Comment
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For those 2 Classe pieces new I think it would be a safe bet that you'll being paying north of 10k unless my memory of Classe prices are askew. Bryston and Classe have typically been close in price.Originally posted by doviimanB&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000Comment
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Yes, I would not mind paying 10K for both components :B , considering new they both would have been closer to 15-20K. But I really have to get my speaker first.Originally posted by Rod#SComment
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