New 803 Diamond speakers in the house… but I’m not using them

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  • bigburner
    Super Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 2649

    #1

    New 803 Diamond speakers in the house… but I’m not using them

    Last week B&W delivered a brand new pair of 803 Diamond speakers to my house. I haven’t listened to them yet. I haven’t even taken them out of their boxes, and I probably won’t do so for many months.

    The new Diamonds are replacements for my 803D speakers which took a tumble in the 22 February 2011 earthquake here. The cabinets were scratched as a result of their fall. B&W don’t supply replacement cabinets so my insurance company agreed to replace them. B&W New Zealand provided me with great support to achieve this result.

    We are still experiencing aftershocks here so I don’t plan to deploy the new Diamonds until the earth settles down a bit.

    Normally a new piece of hi-fi is cause for great excitement, especially if it happens to be the most expensive piece of equipment that you own. I feel no excitement at all about the new Diamonds. Strangely I’m not even really interested in listening to them.

    One reason may be that I’m really happy with my 803Ds. I’ve owned them for only 16 months and they sound fantastic to me. They are a huge step up from the CDM9NT speakers I owned before. I was ready for that upgrade whereas I feel no upgrade-itis regarding the 803Ds.

    I’m also slightly concerned that the Diamonds will be a backward step. Mark_NZ has just posted an excellent comparison of the 803D and the 803 Diamonds here: http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=39555. His review is generally positive in favour of the Diamonds, but it also raises some negatives that I have read elsewhere too.

    Fortunately the sound of my 803Ds hasn’t been affected by their fall so I have no compelling reason to swap them out. OK, I am a little bit curious about the Diamonds but the thought of unpacking and re-packing those monsters does not appeal to me.

    Some of you will think I’m crazy not deploying the new speakers but if your city had recently been devastated by an earthquake followed by over 5,000 aftershocks you would understand why.

    Nigel.

    Christchurch Earthquake 22 February 2011

    181 lives were lost. 1,550 commercial buildings and 11,000 homes were destroyed. 30,000 homes have suffered damage in excess of $100,000 and 100,000 more homes have suffered damage less than $100,000. The estimated cost of the rebuild is $30 billion. From an insurance perspective it is the third-costliest earthquake ever after the 2011 Japan and 1994 California quakes. 30,000 workers will be required to rebuild the city once construction starts.

    The quake was mostly horizontal movement with some vertical movement, with the vertical acceleration far greater than the horizontal acceleration. The peak ground acceleration was one of the greatest ever recorded in the world. There were eyewitness accounts of people being tossed into the air. The acceleration would have totally flattened most world cities, causing massive loss of life. Thankfully New Zealand's stringent building codes limited the damage and loss of life.
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  • Mark_NZ
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 51

    #2
    Ouch - that really hurts to see your speaker on the ground. :cry:

    This is but one small example of the ongoing impact of the earthquakes on Christchurch residents who have had to endure so much, the loss of their possessions, loss of lives, and for some the loss of friends and family as community is put under unbearable strain and people move on.

    I am pleased to hear that you were able to get a full replacement (good on B&W NZ for helping) - I don't believe you will be disappointed even though it will take a bit more effort to fully realize their potential.

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    • madmac
      Ultra Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 3122

      #3
      Speakers are, and over time become 'friends' with your ears. You obviously love your existing ones and you are probably not initially going to like the new ones....simply because they will 'sound' different to your ears and will not be that 'friend' that you are used to spending time with.

      As Mark mentioned above, it will take you time to truly know if the new ones are better. If in the end you prefer your old ones and can live with the cosmetic damage, then I would by all means keep them and sell the new ones.
      Dan Madden :T

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      • kcsun
        Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 69

        #4
        Hi there
        I have the 9NT's and am looking to upgrade to 803 or 804 diamonds so that I can have either a 803 or 804 matching centre speaker or a HTM2 diamond. I do love the sound from my 9NT's though even though I have set them as small and use a B&W sub for everything under 80hz. What in your view are the benefits of upgrading to 800 series. I am running an Arcam AVR600 at the moment
        kc
        Arcam avr600, Sky HD 2Tb, Oppo 103D, Sony VPL-VW500ES, Phillips large Pronto pro remote
        B&W 803Di speakers, B&W HTM2Di centre speaker, B&W 7NT in wall rear speakers, B&W ASW1000 Sub

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        • bigburner
          Super Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 2649

          #5
          Originally posted by kcsun
          Hi there
          I have the 9NT's and am looking to upgrade to 803 or 804 diamonds so that I can have either a 803 or 804 matching centre speaker or a HTM2 diamond. I do love the sound from my 9NT's though even though I have set them as small and use a B&W sub for everything under 80hz. What in your view are the benefits of upgrading to 800 series. I am running an Arcam AVR600 at the moment
          kc
          Hi kc,

          To my ears the 9NT is a relatively bass-shy speaker with a tendency to be overly bright on some recordings. It can lack presence at low volume and cause fatigue at higher volume if the tweeter is pushed hard. The kevlar mid-range driver is what gives the 9NT its class. Vocals and instruments such as the acoustic guitar sound really good. On many recordings the 9NT's couldn't be faulted. On other recordings a lot of tuning was required (tone controls, sub crossover frequency, sub volume) to get a sound that I liked. I got good at tuning so consequently I enjoyed my time with the 9NTs.

          In contrast the 803D is good in all departments, with drivers and tweeter that are well integrated and in balance with each other. It has presence at low volume and excels when played loud. I rely less on my sub. Tuning is very rarely required.

          Nigel.

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          • bigburner
            Super Senior Member
            • May 2005
            • 2649

            #6
            Originally posted by madmac
            If in the end you prefer your old ones and can live with the cosmetic damage, then I would by all means keep them and sell the new ones.
            The cosmetic damage doesn't worry me much aesthetically madmac. From the sweet spot I can't see any marks and the sound is what's important to me. What did worry me was the reduction in their value and the fact that I could never sell them in case an internal component failed for the new owner. That worry has been alleviated by the arrival of the Diamonds.

            Nigel.

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            • kcsun
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 69

              #7
              Originally posted by bigburner
              Hi kc,

              To my ears the 9NT is a relatively bass-shy speaker with a tendency to be overly bright on some recordings. It can lack presence at low volume and cause fatigue at higher volume if the tweeter is pushed hard. The kevlar mid-range driver is what gives the 9NT its class. Vocals and instruments such as the acoustic guitar sound really good. On many recordings the 9NT's couldn't be faulted. On other recordings a lot of tuning was required (tone controls, sub crossover frequency, sub volume) to get a sound that I liked. I got good at tuning so consequently I enjoyed my time with the 9NTs.

              In contrast the 803D is good in all departments, with drivers and tweeter that are well integrated and in balance with each other. It has presence at low volume and excels when played loud. I rely less on my sub. Tuning is very rarely required.

              Nigel.
              Hi Nigel
              Good and bad news, you have convinced me that I need to upgrade my 9nt's. As I need the speakers for ht rather than just music I need to decide if I can get away with 804's and a sub, rather than buy the 803's and not use them below 80hz as I will still have the sub. (as I will buy 3 LC&R do I need a sub with 803's??)

              The bad news is that my wife is not impressed with you or your comments (that is the polite version) still some rose's on the 14th may seal the deal - in my eyes anyway

              kc
              Arcam avr600, Sky HD 2Tb, Oppo 103D, Sony VPL-VW500ES, Phillips large Pronto pro remote
              B&W 803Di speakers, B&W HTM2Di centre speaker, B&W 7NT in wall rear speakers, B&W ASW1000 Sub

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