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  • ray5
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 444

    #1

    804S or 805S as rears?

    Hi Guys,
    I am looking to add rear speakers. They will go with 802D and HTM2D as fronts. What would you guys think?
    Thanks,
    Ray
  • Kal Rubinson
    Super Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 2109

    #2
    Works for me. I use the 804S for surround with a trio of 802Ds up front.

    Kal
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    • htsteve
      Super Senior Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 1216

      #3
      As I have 804S's as rears, with 802D's/HTM2D upfront, you know my answer.

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      • garak
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 310

        #4
        I also have 804S as rears, but unlike Kal and htsteve, I have 803D/HTM2D up front. However, I concur with their answer.

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        • style
          Super Senior Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 1562

          #5
          Hi,

          I have like Garak (Brian :W ) 803D and Htm2D but rear the 805S.


          well, with a from 802d-Htm2d the perfect rear will be a 803d but between 804s and 805s i don't know....read a lot of pro 805s and contra (idem for the 804s)

          the 804s will be better (on the brochure...) but if you fo use this 2 great speaker as front people say that the 805 is better on the HF, the 804 will be on the LF.... (tweeter is the same but will sound different..)

          As SR are two great speakers...not easy.

          Style

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          • ShadowZA
            Super Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 1099

            #6
            I use 803D's for surround duty. Before this I used N804's (previous version of the 804S). The 805S's are useful as they could be wall mounted.

            I tend to prefer more surround "fullness" in addition to tweeter matching and thus my decision to go for floorstanders.

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            • Kal Rubinson
              Super Senior Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 2109

              #7
              Originally posted by style
              well, with a from 802d-Htm2d the perfect rear will be a 803d but between 804s and 805s i don't know....
              Nah. The perfect rear would be more 802Ds. :T

              Kal
              Kal Rubinson
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              • style
                Super Senior Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 1562

                #8
                Nah. The perfect rear would be more 802Ds.

                Kal
                :B exaggerated :W

                well at this point we go to the point of no return,: 5 (7?) x 801D :B :B

                Style

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                • ray5
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 444

                  #9
                  You guys do like spending money! Especially if it is someone else's!!!!
                  Looks like there is general agreement on the 804 between the two. Thanks,
                  Ray

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                  • ray5
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 444

                    #10
                    Given the limited signal that flows to the rears at this time what's the advantage for full range speakers in the back? Or is it that newer and future soundtracks are going to have different signals?
                    Ray

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                    • Kal Rubinson
                      Super Senior Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 2109

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ray5
                      Given the limited signal that flows to the rears at this time what's the advantage for full range speakers in the back?
                      A more perfect timbre balance with the fronts.
                      Or is it that newer and future soundtracks are going to have different signals?
                      Dunno. I am really concerned only with music.

                      Kal
                      Kal Rubinson
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                      "Music in the Round"
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                      • ray5
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 444

                        #12
                        I know this is off topic but my rears will need about 40-50' of speaker cable. Does the length have any bearing? I know I'll have to calibrate but is there signal loss when traveling over long distances? And if yes is there a magic number? Thanks,
                        Ray

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                        • Glenee
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 253

                          #13
                          That signal will be traveling at about 1100 ft a second or faster, Hell I can't remember. Don't you see that Senior in front of member. Give me a break. Now what was I talking about.

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                          • ray5
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 444

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Glenee
                            That signal will be traveling at about 1100 ft a second or faster, Hell I can't remember. Don't you see that Senior in front of member. Give me a break.Now what was I talking about.
                            So, to say it more politely and with civility I guess the answer is no it will not make a difference?!
                            I take it your last sentence was pretty accurate i.e Now what was I talking about.
                            If one posts enough number of these you automatically become senior! I have no claims on being senior or an expert and that's the reason I am on this forum.Thanks,
                            Ray

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                            • Glenee
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 253

                              #15
                              No, No, Ray. No Pun or Smart Ass Intended.I was referring to my own age, as to my forgetfullness and it was a joke on myself. I would never make any kind of remark, to insult or demean any member. Ray, please accept my humblest appolgy.
                              Sorry Ray,
                              Glen

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                              • ray5
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 444

                                #16
                                Glen,
                                Accepted. E-mail and forums can be very deceptive. I apologize in being overly sensitive also! No hard feelings.
                                Ray

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                                • Kal Rubinson
                                  Super Senior Member
                                  • Mar 2006
                                  • 2109

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Glenee
                                  That signal will be traveling at about 1100 ft a second or faster, Hell I can't remember. Don't you see that Senior in front of member. Give me a break. Now what was I talking about.
                                  Much faster. 1100f/s is for sound, not electricity. "...in a typical coaxial cable it is about 66% of the speed of light" (186,000 miles per second).

                                  Kal
                                  Kal Rubinson
                                  _______________________________
                                  "Music in the Round"
                                  Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                                  http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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                                  • Glenee
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Aug 2006
                                    • 253

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                                    Much faster. 1100f/s is for sound, not electricity. "...in a typical coaxial cable it is about 66% of the speed of light" (186,000 miles per second).

                                    Kal
                                    See why I said what I said about I can't remember. I knew Kal was just around the corner to line my Ass out. :W

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                                    • Kal Rubinson
                                      Super Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2006
                                      • 2109

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Glenee
                                      See why I said what I said about I can't remember. I knew Kal was just around the corner to line my Ass out. :W
                                      At the speed of light. :T

                                      Kal
                                      Kal Rubinson
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                                      Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                                      http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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                                      • bigburner
                                        Super Senior Member
                                        • May 2005
                                        • 2649

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by style
                                        well at this point we go to the point of no return,: 5 (7?) x 801D :B :B

                                        Style
                                        Nah. A better setup is 7 x 800D.

                                        Nigel.

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                                        • style
                                          Super Senior Member
                                          • Feb 2006
                                          • 1562

                                          #21
                                          original from bigburner
                                          Nah. A better setup is 7 x 800D.

                                          Nigel
                                          uhmm between the 800D and the 801D I like the 801D much more......
                                          but we suppose a room from 8meter x 7m. or similar: with 5 pcs. I will be happy too!:
                                          we go make 3 fromt 81D and 800d and the"rear"? , ampli in monoblock, a GREAT sacd, insonoritation, No sub, a turntalbe must be in the setup...
                                          well Sweet dream......
                                          what do you think?
                                          Style

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                                          • JargonGR
                                            Member
                                            • Feb 2009
                                            • 95

                                            #22
                                            Seriously it looks much better with floorstanders than the small 805s.

                                            I Use 800Ds + HTM1D in the front and 803Ds as surrounds and plan on getting two more 803Ds for 7.1. I am not really into multichannel music but movies mostly for surround. However, I still owe it to my setup to look into multichannel music a bit closer. It is just that I don;t like being the maestro which is exactly what multichannel music makes me feel.

                                            And yes I know how I should sell my HTM1D and get an extra 800D for the front but this would be in front of my projection screen that I don't want to move further up.
                                            Last edited by JargonGR; 29 June 2009, 03:23 Monday.

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