How to move N802s

[beden1]

I have the opportunity to purchase a used set of Nautilus 802s locally with no boxes. But, I need to ship them to my Florida house from Pennsylvania.

The big issue is that they weigh 176 lbs. each. I first need to move them from where they are now, and then drive them to my house. I have an excellent high end furniture delivery trucking company that can move them to Florida.

I have a Suburban, and the 802s will fit laying down, but I remember reading that they don't like to be on their sides? The drive would be about 1/2 hour in my Suburban. This is also if I can even move them myself. I do have a hand truck, but getting them in and out of the car could be problematic.

Any suggestions?

[Race Car Driver]

I moved mine on the sides in the back of a tahoe wrapped with thick blankets.

Although the move was 4 miles *shrug*
I dont see an issue with moving them a half hour on their side, the are well built, 176lb speakers, not china or crystal glasses.

[beden1]

Thanks for the input. After reading the many posts in the B&W speaker section, you almost forget that they are speakers/furniture and should be able to be moved around. I just wanted to be careful and know if there were any pitfalls.

[chinets]

4 Miles OK and wrapped in Blankets!! But that far by suburban and flat and seriously wrapped in Blankets I suppose?? etc.. I wouldn't do that myself IMHO, with all the chasis of that Van moving up and down, could in effect do some damge!! ops: Hopefully not !! But if you check the boxes those speakers came in!! They speciafically say Upright, and have and arrow that says this way ^ !! :W What does that mean?? :roll: Go figure, but that would ring bells, if I had to transport my speakers in a Van or suburban side ways from Pennsylvania all the way down to Florida!! :W How could that be just a 1/2 hour ride? ops: Am I reading this all wrong?? Or, your Suburban, is a F1 Ferrari with a special kit twin 747 jet engine !!! :rofl:
Best of Luck, I would have to say!!
Cheers!

[Race Car Driver]

I would assume they have an arrow on the box for upright so no one puts them upside down or bumps around and damages the marlan head.

I think if you are carefull, the speaker is on its side, and you dont knock it around, what is there to damage?
The woofer? the tweet? the crossover network that is secured in the base of the speaker? If Its safe and not on anything harsh, how is movement of the vehicle up and down going to affect anything that the movement and pressure of the speaker moving doesnt already do?

Now if its in the box, and someone puts it upside down, you have all that weight coming down on the marlan head. NOT GOOD.

Its a speaker, wood, with metal, crossover, and some woofers. Sure its more expensive then others, but it doesnt mean its anything new.

They are your new speakers move them how you want. But secured on the side, I dont see how that could cause any damage. Id be more concerned about movers who dont give two shits about someone elses stuff moving them around with two wheel dollies even if they were "right side up"

Dont get me wrong, I think anyone can agree, that moving them right side up is the best bet, but again, its not a new born, its a big chunk of wood with some cheap woofers in it

My main concern would be the weight of the marlan head, movement of it being on its side or anything of the sort. *shrug* Secure it, support it, and roll with the punches. :lol:

[Race Car Driver]

Oh, i was looking for these pics posted here last year some time.
B&W Factory. 8)

[RobP]

I have hauled big speakers like that in my Suburban over long distances with no problems, if I was going to move the 802's myself over a long haul I would build some wedges and cover them with foam so the speakers wouldn't roll, then wrap the speakers in a couple of new blankets and position them in the wedges.

[RobP]

Or, your Suburban, is a F1 Ferrari with a special kit twin 747 jet engine !!! :rofl:

That must have been me that passed you on the Highway in my Suburban.. :lol:

[beden1]

Oh, i was looking for these pics posted here last year some time.
B&W Factory. 8)

LOL. They don't look so special when you see them like that . . . do they?

[Race Car Driver]

N802s

Replacement cost of:

Tweeter $99
Mid $200
Woofer $200

And im sure thats after paying the 50% markup.

Its the cabinet and the crossover and all the compenents together that make them sound oh so nice.

[beden1]

4 Miles OK and wrapped in Blankets!! if I had to transport my speakers in a Van or suburban side ways from Pennsylvania all the way down to Florida!! :W How could that be just a 1/2 hour ride? ops: Am I reading this all wrong?? Or, your Suburban, is a F1 Ferrari with a special kit twin 747 jet engine !!! :rofl:
Best of Luck, I would have to say!!
Cheers!

I'm only going to move them about 1/2 hour ride (city traffic) in my Suburban. I will use a high line furniture mover to send them to Florida. They provide white glove service, and their primary job is to move furniture orders from N Carolina to retailers around the country. I've used them a couple of times in the past and they are really good. I called them and the cost is going to be about $220. That includes the speakers, a power amp (77 lbs.), and a center channel HTM1 in the box. I figure it's worth the piece of mind.

I just have to get them to my house to arrange for the pick up. It's not going to be easy due to the weight of these brutes.

[RobP]

Thta does sound like alot of work, just for some speakers, Ill come down and take those off your hands for you so you dont have to mess with them.. :W :lol:

[beden1]

Thta does sound like alot of work, just for some speakers, Ill come down and take those off your hands for you so you dont have to mess with them.. :W :lol:

You're more than welcome to come down and help me move them . . . one B&W fan to another!

[chinets]

I understand NOW Beden1 !!
I think you'll be fine then!
Good Luck buddy with the movement, and hope all goes smooth!!
Cheers

[KEF]

Don't worry about putting them on their sides - I just took delivery of my 802Ds (literally a few hours ago) and guess what - they came to me on their sides...

Cheers,
Keith

[beden1]

Keith,

Good luck with your 802Ds. How do they sound? What did you replace them with?

[KEF]

Keith,

Good luck with your 802Ds. How do they sound? What did you replace them with?

My upgrade path was N804s, then 803Ss and finally the 802Ds.

So far they are fantastic, as everyone says - they need to be broken for a period of time, so that's what I am working on.

At this time I guess my best description is, you simply hear more, and yes, I know it’s cliché. For example on the new Beatles "Love" CD, at low levels, I find myself thinking, "hmm, never hear that before", It is mostly sounds they have buried in the ambient, but still, very, very, interesting.


The best thing about it was my wife didn't flip out when she actually saw them in the flesh! :T

Cheers,
KEF

[DM3000 Owner]

I normally woudl be teh first oen saying don't worry, but my N801's have a bolt that goes in the back of the top to hold the driver, which floats. You use teh bolt during shipment and take it out and plug teh hole when the speakers are set up. Make sure you do this if the D series has the same thing.

[KEF]

I normally woudl be teh first oen saying don't worry, but my N801's have a bolt that goes in the back of the top to hold the driver, which floats. You use teh bolt during shipment and take it out and plug teh hole when the speakers are set up. Make sure you do this if the D series has the same thing.

Yes, there is a moderately sized phillips screw and cap that has to be removed, I did this yesterday prior to starting them up. There is also a white plastic circle calling the removal out.

I did not see a plug to fill it, but really don't think it is of any importance.

Cheers,
Keith

[beden1]

Keith,

Didn't you recently get the 803S, like the beginning of this month? What made you jump so fast to the 802Ds?

[KEF]

Keith,

Didn't you recently get the 803S, like the beginning of this month? What made you jump so fast to the 802Ds?

No, I moved to the 803Ss in March of 06' from the N804s after about 16 months or so with the N804s.

Before the current series came out my plan was N804 --> N802, but when the S series came out, the price jump threw a wrench into that. So last March I moved to the 803S (due the the upgrade policy of my dealer) as an intermediate step.

I have always had a pair of 802s as a goal - I phased it as an easier pill to swallow for my wife!

Cheers,
Keith

[beden1]

I like your strategy. Unfortunately, now that I'm getting the N802s, I'll have a hard time justifying to my wife later why I would want to spend that much more money on the 802D speaker that looks similar. I guess if I do want to upgrade down the road, it will have to be to the 800Ds in order to sell my wife on the reasoning of it all! But, I think that will be a hard sell, as those are total beasts in size.

I worked a different deal this weekend because the guy I was going to buy the N802s from locally started acting like a real jerk. I found a pair on the other side of Florida from me, that are with a dealer. I got the same price, and the dealer is going to drive them to my house and set them up. It turned out to be a lot easier than having to ship them from PA to FL, and etc.

I hope you thoroughly enjoy your new speakers.

[Joey_V]

I worked a different deal this weekend because the guy I was going to buy the N802s from locally started acting like a real jerk. I found a pair on the other side of Florida from me, that are with a dealer. I got the same price, and the dealer is going to drive them to my house and set them up. It turned out to be a lot easier than having to ship them from PA to FL, and etc.

I hope you thoroughly enjoy your new speakers.

Great job, Beden!!

Glad it worked out for ya! Make sure to take lotsa pics for us!!

Joey

[KEF]

I found a pair on the other side of Florida from me, that are with a dealer. I got the same price, and the dealer is going to drive them to my house and set them up. It turned out to be a lot easier than having to ship them from PA to FL, and etc.

I hope you thoroughly enjoy your new speakers.

Great, congratulations - thoes are fantastic speakers, best of luck.

Keith

[beden1]

Great job, Beden!!

Glad it worked out for ya! Make sure to take lotsa pics for us!!

Joey

Thanks. I'm going down in another week. I'm shipping an amp I just got used - Classe CAV-150. This is a 6 channel amp that can be bridged for 3 channel @ 300 Watts per channel, or bi-amped. I'm contemplating whether to bi-amp or bridge for the front three speakers? Any suggestions here are welcome.

I'm also shipping an HTM1 center channel speaker I just picked up used. Both of these pieces are like new. And, I have two Velodyne Contractor Series 15" subs that are being delivered that week as well (to replace my B&W ASW-750).

I'm going to move my current 703s to the rear channels. And, continue to use my Pioneer Elite VSX-82TXS receiver (130 watts x 7 channels) as my pre-pro. I really like this piece for the features and flexibility. For stereo, I may decide to also send my Aragon 24K pre-amp which has a cleaner sound than the Pioneer . . . at least until I see what shakes out in the marketplace with regard to HDMI 1.3 or whatever they come up with?

[RebelMan]

I'll have a hard time justifying to my wife later why I would want to spend that much more money on the 802D speaker that looks similar. I guess if I do want to upgrade down the road, it will have to be to the 800Ds in order to sell my wife on the reasoning of it all! But, I think that will be a hard sell, as those are total beasts in size.

Actually, this is a common misconception. The 800D cabinet is only slightly larger than the 802D, a difference, minus the plinth with the grills on, of 31W x 22H x 43D (mm) to be precise. What gives the 800D its distinctive character is the massive silvery plinth which does have a substantially larger footprint than that used on the 802D. Truth is the 801D is the genuine monster of the bunch, not the 800D.

If your wife already accepts the N802 into your home you will have already won WAF for the 800D. Other than the obvious "platform", as my wife calls it, that sits beneath the 800D your wife will hardly notice the size difference once it takes up residence where your N802 stand now. I don't think you'll have too much difficulty convincing your wife of the 800D's numerous advantages when the time comes.

[beden1]

Well, I must be getting fickle in my approaching old age. I did a turnaround on my direction for adding a new pair of speakers. After more auditioning, thought process, sole searching, great support from this forum and several dealers, and, even discussing it with my wife . . . I decided to buy a demo pair of 803Ds to add to my setup.

The B&W 803N, 803S, 802N, and 802D are great speakers all in their own right. I just came to the conclusion that Rock N' Roll is my primary listening genre, and for me, the 803D is best suited for the task.

Thank you all for your help!

[Kal Rubinson]

Actually, this is a common misconception. The 800D cabinet is only slightly larger than the 802D, a difference, minus the plinth with the grills on, of 31W x 22H x 43D (mm) to be precise. What gives the 800D its distinctive character is the massive silvery plinth which does have a substantially larger footprint than that used on the 802D. Truth is the 801D is the genuine monster of the bunch, not the 800D.

All true. When I reviewed the 800s, I was surprised how well a pair of them fit my room. However, it is those small increments and the base which give the 800D a more assertive attitude, imho, and make them seem larger, at least in my room. So, while I was happy with a pair of 800s, it seemed inconceivable that I could accommodate 3 of them although the 3 802s fit right in my room. Just a personal observation.

[bigburner]

I just came to the conclusion that Rock N' Roll is my primary listening genre, and for me, the 803D is best suited for the task.

Hi Beden,

Why is the 803D the best choice for rock'n'roll? That's a genre I listen to a lot, hence my interest.

Nigel.

[beden1]

Hi Beden,

Why is the 803D the best choice for rock'n'roll? That's a genre I listen to a lot, hence my interest.

Nigel.

In my opinion at least, I felt they were the best suited during my listening audition. I posted some of my thoughts here: http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=25448

[Joey_V]

Beden,

Boy you are fickle!! :lol:

No worries though, you got to make sure you got the right one from the getgo! Good luck with the 803D!

Did you take delivery yet? You got pics for us to oogle over?

Oh, and make sure to set them next to the 703 for some pics and make sure to post detailed thoughts of exactly how the 703 stacks up to the mighty 803D!!

I'll return periodically to check on your upcoming review!

Joey

[beden1]

Joey,

I take delivery on Tuesday. Along with the 803Ds, they are also bringing my new Velodyne subs that I ordered a while ago. Plus, I'm hoping the stuff I'm shipping down arrives on the same day like my new (used) Classe CAV-150 amp.

I'm sure I'll be busy for a couple of days hooking up and tweaking.

Definitely a labor of love!