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  • amdan
    Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 72

    #1

    Bi wire question

    My speakers are a pair of 802N. They are biwireable.

    I tried out a pair of Harmonic Tech Pro 9 speaker cables (mono wire) in my system and was impressed at the improvement. Harmonic Tech make a biwire version (which they tell me is superior to the mono version).

    I can get the mono version at about 40% cheaper than the biwire version. I will get the biwire version if it is any better than the mono despite the cost difference. However, I don't know for a fact if the biwire version is going to be better. Does anybody have any experience with this who can help?

    Thanks in advance
  • Karma
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 801

    #2
    HI amdan,
    I biwire all my speakers that allow it. The proof is only in my ears. There are many theories pro and con. What this usually means is there are strong system dependencies involed.

    To my knowledge there are no definitive technical reasons that justify the practice. But, moderators willing, your question may initiate a heated debate. You should do a search because the issue has been discussed at length here. If you don't get some responses it may be that everyone is just exhausted and resting after our infamous Biwire Wars. These, of course, take their place in history next to the War of the Roses. :2guns:

    As always, trust your ears for they will reveal the truth.

    Sparky

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    • Aldo
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2005
      • 448

      #3
      I agree!

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      • Clepto
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 292

        #4
        Well, your best bet is to do a simple, and cheap experiment...

        Buy plain old copper wire.... hook it up with and without bi wire connectivity, and see if you can tell a difference.

        Keep in mind that most bi-wire i've seen, isn't as heavy gauge as if you used 2 pair of regular wire.

        And imo, unless you're active biamping, then it's not going to be noticeable anyway.

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        • amdan
          Member
          • Sep 2006
          • 72

          #5
          An experiment with cheap wire may not show the difference that biwiring can make simply because it is cheap wire!

          I have no opinion on the matter of biwiring so please don't assume that I am pro biwiring from the above.

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          • Karma
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 801

            #6
            Originally posted by amdan
            An experiment with cheap wire may not show the difference that biwiring can make simply because it is cheap wire!

            I have no opinion on the matter of biwiring so please don't assume that I am pro biwiring from the above.
            HI amdan,
            I was thinking the same thing. The advantages of biwiring are subtle. I would think grain and other issues using cheap wire would completely hide the biwire gains.

            Sparky

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            • Kal Rubinson
              Super Senior Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 2109

              #7
              The advantages are too subtle for me.

              Kal
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              • amdan
                Member
                • Sep 2006
                • 72

                #8
                Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                The advantages are too subtle for me.

                Kal
                Hi Kal,
                I suspect you have had access to a greater variety and much more expensive cables than most of us have. Has there not been a single instance where biwiring has been better?
                Have you done much experimenting with this?

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                • Kal Rubinson
                  Super Senior Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 2109

                  #9
                  Originally posted by amdan
                  Hi Kal,
                  I suspect you have had access to a greater variety and much more expensive cables than most of us have. Has there not been a single instance where biwiring has been better?
                  Have you done much experimenting with this?
                  I have made the comparison a few times, swtiching between the two setups and never heard any difference. Differences among good cables are very subtle, imho.

                  Kal
                  Kal Rubinson
                  _______________________________
                  "Music in the Round"
                  Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                  http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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