Do 803D's Need Room to Breathe?

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  • Wesley
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 5

    #1

    Do 803D's Need Room to Breathe?

    I have a pair of 803D's. My wife wants me to have custom cabinetry built to house my components and hide my speakers (i.e. flush to the wall cabinetry behind grillcloth). I know, I can't believe it either!

    They are currently floorstanding about 40cm from the wall. Based on some comments made above, I am concerned that enclosing them in cabinetry recessed in the wall will pose serious sonic issues. Is this a non-starter or do I have some options?
  • dknightd
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 620

    #2
    B&w designs their speakers to be freestanding. They go to great lengths to reduce diffracation from the cabinets. Putting them in a cabinet makes no sense. If your wife insists on putting speakers in a cabinet I'd suggest you sell you speakers and buy something made for use in a cabinet. Yuk.

    Now if you could build a false wall, with treatments and speakers behind it, then it might make sense. Can you afford to loose 3-4' of your room?

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    • JKalman
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 708

      #3
      Originally posted by Wesley
      I have a pair of 803D's. My wife wants me to have custom cabinetry built to house my components and hide my speakers (i.e. flush to the wall cabinetry behind grillcloth). I know, I can't believe it either!

      They are currently floorstanding about 40cm from the wall. Based on some comments made above, I am concerned that enclosing them in cabinetry recessed in the wall will pose serious sonic issues. Is this a non-starter or do I have some options?
      Shoot her. Marry the speakers.

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      • Wesley
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2005
        • 5

        #4
        Originally posted by dknightd

        Now if you could build a false wall, with treatments and speakers behind it, then it might make sense. Can you afford to loose 3-4' of your room?
        Actually that is one option I am considering. The cabinetry I want to use to house my components can be custom built to accept a Middle Atlantic SRSR 23" rotating rack unit) and will need to be about 33"-36". So four feet, no. Almost three feet, yeah. If three feet of depth behind a false wall with treatments might make sense, what width would seem reasonable? Don't think I would have more than three feet square per speaker, (i.e. a 3' x3' opening behind a treatment).

        And I could shoot her, but she's the one that bought my dream speakers for me. Of couse, she's also the one that now wants them to be heard, not seen. As long as I do this right, I have no problem with that. If this won't work then I'll be forced to move them into the billiards room where I have plenty of room.

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        • JKalman
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 708

          #5
          Originally posted by Wesley
          Actually that is one option I am considering. The cabinetry I want to use to house my components can be custom built to accept a Middle Atlantic SRSR 23" rotating rack unit) and will need to be about 33"-36". So four feet, no. Almost three feet, yeah. If three feet of depth behind a false wall with treatments might make sense, what width would seem reasonable? Don't think I would have more than three feet square per speaker, (i.e. a 3' x3' opening behind a treatment).

          And I could shoot her, but she's the one that bought my dream speakers for me. Of couse, she's also the one that now wants them to be heard, not seen. As long as I do this right, I have no problem with that. If this won't work then I'll be forced to move them into the billiards room where I have plenty of room.
          Perhaps you should trade them in for the 802Ds if you have enough space for their sound. They have wheels on them. You could wheel them into the cabinet she has built when you aren't using them, then wheel them out when you use them. :B

          Putting them near a wall and/or in a cabinet would be a waste of money IMO (or rather, a waste of the speaker), might as well sell them, or put them in the billiard room. That or buy speakers that are made for that kind of enclosure or made to be placed close to a wall.

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          • kurtholz
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2005
            • 345

            #6
            I never agree with Jeff, in fact he alway's picks on me, my advice

            shoot her, keep the speakers, blame it on Jeff for telling you to do this, i bet you could get off, or get a reduced sentence for testifying against Jeff as a co-conspirator

            make a plea deal, i think you might even get immunity, they would want the brains behind the scheme worse than the poor brainwashed shooter

            hahahhahaha

            :-)

            Kurt

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            • kurtholz
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2005
              • 345

              #7
              oh, and who cares if she bought them, i mean, what would a pet alligator do if you raised it and loved it from birth, feeding it tenderly, taking it for walks,

              it grows to 400lbs and you miss a meal, guess what, your lunch

              so offing a non-B & W devotee is most certainly a natural act of nature

              am i on tonight or what

              hahahhaa

              Kurt

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              • Wesley
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2005
                • 5

                #8
                OK, she's got to go. And I'll definitely blame it on Jeff!! What do you think of this plan; shoot her, blame it on Jeff, stick her in the cabinet behind the false wall and pull the speakers out front. I mean at the end of the day it accomplishes the same end game - she won't be able to see the speakers!

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                • kurtholz
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 345

                  #9
                  Hey Wesley

                  i can only speak from personal experience,( past complaining wife) but i found that a dead body behind the walls does cause a slight sound deflection issue in the low bass region, also, you will get a slight degradation in room ambience thru the whole body decomposing process

                  my advice, cement shoes, deep pond, i really read that into Jeff's response anyway, i would testify on your behalf, so, i think go ahead with that plan

                  surprised to find someone with as sick a sense of humor as me, you must have some relatives from Oklahoma

                  hahahhaa

                  regards

                  Kurt

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                  • JKalman
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 708

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wesley
                    OK, she's got to go. And I'll definitely blame it on Jeff!! What do you think of this plan; shoot her, blame it on Jeff, stick her in the cabinet behind the false wall and pull the speakers out front. I mean at the end of the day it accomplishes the same end game - she won't be able to see the speakers!
                    I would bleed her out and then stuff her with fiber glass first, to make sure the smell doesn't become intolerable. The stench of decomposition can seriously hurt the resale value of a good set of speakers. Plus, then you can use her as a bass trap. If you condense the fiber glass enough, you might be able to absorb down to the really low frequencies.

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                    • JKalman
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 708

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kurtholz
                      Hey Wesley

                      i can only speak from personal experience,( past complaining wife) but i found that a dead body behind the walls does cause a slight sound deflection issue in the low bass region, also, you will get a slight degradation in room ambience thru the whole body decomposing process
                      Doh, there I go again, picking on your advice... (See my previous post).

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                      • JKalman
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 708

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JKalman
                        I would bleed her out and then stuff her with fiber glass first, to make sure the smell doesn't become intolerable. The stench of decomp can seriously hurt the resale value of a good set of speakers. Plus, then you can use her as a bass trap. If you condense the fiber glass enough, you might be able to absorb down to the really low frequencies.
                        Oh, you might want to consider anyone else who might be a problem in the future, since you definitely want to balance out the room treatments with a body on each side of the entertainment center, and possibly a few for the corners of the room (wrapped in matching burlap to accentuate the room decor or in contrasting color combinations that are aesthetically appealing). I would say leave no witnesses, but then I might be putting my own life in jeopardy. Besides, you can trust us, we are B&W owners! Right?!?

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                        • JKalman
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 708

                          #13
                          You should also considering revising the title of this thread to, "Do Wives Need Room to Breathe?" :twisted:

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                          • Karma
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 801

                            #14
                            HI All,
                            My solution....no wife, no dead bodies, no smell, don't worry about not feeding the pets. End of story. The problem becomes having to eat my own cooking.


                            Sparky

                            P. S., this thread has been LOL.

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                            • JKalman
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 708

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Karma
                              HI All,
                              My solution....no wife, no dead bodies, no smell, don't worry about not feeding the pets. End of story. The problem becomes having to eat my own cooking.


                              Sparky

                              P. S., this thread has been LOL.

                              Are you suggesting he cook his wife and eat her?!?! :E

                              :rofl:

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                              • RobP
                                Ultra Senior Member
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 4747

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JKalman
                                Shoot her. Marry the speakers.

                                :roflmao: :roflmao:
                                Robert P. 8)

                                AKA "Soundgravy"

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