Does anyone know of rumors of the 600 Series 4 being released at some point in time? I know the 600 Series 3 have been around for quite some time and I'm looking at making a purchase, but obviously don't want to if the new ones are just around the corner!
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I had sent B&W an email regarding this earlier today and their response was:
"We have no plans at present to replace or modify the existing 600 series, certainly not within the next 3 months."
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Probably relates to their normal release window.
I'd think you'd have to see diamond tweeters in the 700-Series for a few years, and that will probably migrate to the 600-Series in a few years after, and result in the 600s4Comment
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I don't think we will see the diamond tweeters in the 700 in even a few years... Vapor deposition of carbon to make diamond is still a long and expensive process. So unless someone comes up with a cheaper way to make diamond into useable shapes it's probably stuck to 800 series.
The most I think they could change would be the crossovers, change the box geometry to removed the parrellel surfaces and add a FST to the 604 but I doubt the last one because it would make the 600 series less tolerant to inferior electronics.Comment
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Oh, I spoke to my dealer about it as well, and he indicated he hadn't even heard the hint of a rumor about any changes to the 600 series.Comment
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Thanks everyone! I guess that gives me the green light to save up a little "manfund" and go out and buy some 602 S3s!!!Comment
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I'd imagine they make a new 700s series before they make a new 600 series.Comment
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I was actually hoping they would release the rest of the new CM series soon since they look so much better than the 600 series, but B&W was also very vague about when (if ever) that would happen. If anyone knows differently please chime in.Comment
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Good news since I was planning on getting a pair of 603's in 2-3 months...
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Cost issue. The 600 series is definitely the best bang for the buck series they make. And I'd guess if you wanted to go real wood, the 700 series would be the starting point.Originally posted by Tha FreakComment
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Or the CM1...
800 series inside.. classy, classic design in real timber outside...Comment
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600 Series 4!!
I recently ordered a full set of speakers from the 600 Series 3: a pair of 603, a LCR600, a pair of 601 and an ASW 675.
This morning my dealer called me and told me there was a "problem" with my order - the models I ordered were replaced!
He suggested I come and see the mail he got from the importer...
I went there and he showed me the PR sent to him by the importer.
He forwarded it to me, and I've put it on my site:
(it's only my computer, don't expect 100% uptime...)
The "problem" with my order is that I'll need to wait a month longer for my speakers - which will probably be a pair of 683, an HTM61, a pair of 685 - but I'll probably keep the ASW 675 sub.
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Uhhhhhhhhh, nice colors!B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720Comment
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wonder how they'll compare to the s3's.Comment
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Nice!
The sooner these come out the sooner i can get a deal on the current series three!
In the 800 series marketing video it looked like the only difference between the Marlan head units and the rest of the line for the FST driver was the dome behind the magnet. I wonder if the FST driver is the exact same driver used in the 800 series?Last edited by scanido; 30 March 2007, 16:51 Friday.Comment
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is it just me or did it get uglier?
although the yellow kevlar looks the same as the CM series now.Comment
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I think you may get that feeling from the satin finished piece around the tweeter. I feel it's a LITTLE off, but I guess they're just sticking to style going around.B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720Comment
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Pics
Here are the pictures from the PDF so we don't kill kunda's internet connection with all the downloadingAttached FilesComment
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More
Here's the restAttached FilesComment
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The 602 S3 and the 602.5 S3's counterparts seem to be missing, I wonder how this is going to change the pricing structure?Comment
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maybe it's just the initial shock ...
I like the Wenge option thoughComment
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Yeah, I'm gonna withold judgement til I see them in person...however, just looking at the pics, I'm a little let down. They appear more boxy, though admittedly that's hard to tell from pics. I'm also not a fan of that off-center tweeter badge.
I do like more color options though.
And yeah, I was surprised to not see the updated version of the 602...that seemed to be the homerun pair for them.Comment
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I'm loving that red cherry color though. i wish they had that available when i bought the s3'sComment
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i was told that new 600 s4 series will be "made in china" not as used to be an originally United Kingdom product. i don't know if that matters but B&W is moving this 600 range to China and focus on higher product lines in their homelandComment
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I've not gotten prices yet but it should be announced soon.Originally posted by marano
As far as the DM602 and DM602.5 are concerned, they have really slowed down in sales the last couple of years. Speakers are moving to more "lifestyle" type applications and more and more people are hanging them on walls in that price range. The DM602 was too big for most people to use as rears on stands and the price approached the DM603 when you did add a nice pair of stand for front speakers. Most of the time people spent the extra money and bought the DM603. The DM602.5 never did sell that well for them from the beginning. Again, people spent the extra money and got DM603. I think you'll see more products like the VM Series or FPM Series coming out this year. My rep said they a more new models coming this year than in any year past. He wouldn't give me details over the phone. He said I had to wait until he comes by to get all of it (which will be about three weeks from now). The one thing he mentioned, was a CT600 Series. It sounds like it's going to be in the $1000.00 a channel price range.
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Kunda,I recently ordered a full set of speakers from the 600 Series 3: a pair of 603, a LCR600, a pair of 601 and an ASW 675.
This morning my dealer called me and told me there was a "problem" with my order - the models I ordered were replaced!
He suggested I come and see the mail he got from the importer...
I went there and he showed me the PR sent to him by the importer.
He forwarded it to me, and I've put it on my site:
(it's only my computer, don't expect 100% uptime...)
The "problem" with my order is that I'll need to wait a month longer for my speakers - which will probably be a pair of 683, an HTM61, a pair of 685 - but I'll probably keep the ASW 675 sub.
Enjoy your drooling!
This information is quite informative. Which dealer did you manage to get this from?
All the best. 8)Best regards,Comment
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I find it odd someone would have their first post on potentially big news and not come back since. Don't mean to start a conspiracy but i believe this info was purposely planted here to get interests peaked on this new lineup.
Not that it's a bad thing, but a very good strategy used by companies now to create interest. Plus we get the first scoop on the new lineup!Comment
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even there is a pricing on an european site for the new 600 series...
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686 $300 US, this might kill the 300 series sales.Originally posted by eLiasGRComment
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Great to see some B&W action in the more affordable end of the market.
It will be interesting to see how they compare with the 700 series. It must be tricky with so many models to get the price vs performance right, upgrade a range and not take away from the higher models.
It would appear that XT had to walk a tight rope on this issue, although it would seem that the 700 series still edge out the XT judging by the range of reviews and comments that I have read (I like my 705s more now than I have ever done even though they primarily only do rear duties). I am sure that some XT owners will not agree with this statement.
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Why the 8 instead of a 0 in the model numbers - its not even 2008 yet !!
Why 2 mid drivers in the smaller tower? I thought 2 mids was bad - unless the bottom kevlar driver is for bass only Curious choice.
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The XT Series was not introduced to attract the enthusiast. They do sound very good, but they are not the 700 Series. It's a speaker to fit a need that the others do not. I mentioned "lifestyle" speakers earlier and this is one of those products. Most customers that buy the XT Series would never buy the 600 Series or 700 Series for the same application. The XT Series now gives someone high performance in a great looking modern shape. It's a totally different customer/application.Originally posted by Briz vegas
I'm not sure why they added the 8 in the model numbers, but I would guess it was to decrease confusion now that the last number is like the 700 Series and 800 Series. The 683 is the top model and the 686 is the smallest not the other way around. It looks like the dropped the DM as well.Originally posted by Briz vegas
It did say in the european preliminary lit that the the 684 is a 2 1/2 way speaker so the bottom woofer does not play midrange.
As far as sound quality, we'll know in 45 to 60 days.
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Guten Tag,
What I find very interesting is the HTM61 center speaker. It's a 3 way center and the only other 3 ways, if I'm correct, are from the 800 series. I hope this center is really good. I've been saving (for a very long time) for a center to go with my N804's. If this center is remotely close, I will be very happy.
Next month in Munich, there will be an Audio/Video fair and I plan on going. Hopefully the new 600 series will be there to audition.
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The current DM604s3 is a three way and the new 683 is a three way in the 600 Series.Originally posted by goe2112
The 703 is a three way in the 700 Series.
In the 800 Series everything is a three way except the 805S, SCMS, and the HTM4S so it seems like that is the only series with three way speakers.
The best match for N804's would be a used HTM1 or the current HTM3S, but if you listen to more two channel music you'll have to listen to the HTM61 when it comes out and decide if it work for you.
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Eric,Originally posted by hifiguymi
Do you know if the FST driver is the same across all lineups?
From a business and manufacturing point of view this would make sense, but i would hope the FST driver is improved upon as you go higher up the lineup.Comment
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I don't know about the 600 Series yet, but the one in the 800 Series is an improved one over the 700 Series. The 700 Series has the same one that was in the Nautilus 800 Series (it is also in the Signature8NT in wall). The current 800 Series FST is new for that line. I'll try to find out from my rep about the 600 Series.Originally posted by scanido
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marano: Thank you - all components in my home network appreciate the relieved stress
Destruction: This came from my local dealer in the city of Ramat Hasharon, who got it from the importer somewhere else in the country. Then again - me, my dealer, his importer and Ramat Hasharon - all reside in Israel (Sorry, I didn't get to complete my profile at the time...)
scanido: I'm happy to have created a scoop, but I did not come back soon enough since I had some things to do - go work, eat, sleep, meet girlfriend, friends, etc. A new B&W speakers series is usually my #1 priority, but last week there were simply too many of "the others" - and I got a little, hmm, lost...? :lol:
Anyway, I wanted to publish this to find out if anyone has more information on this - specs, reviews, comparisons.
When I did, the only information I found was mostly about pricing (in French - but with a nice "package" pic), but this was already published in a previous post by eLiasGR.
Unfortunately, I still haven't been able to find any info about the new 600 Series 4, but I think I am going to have to trust B&W to have made a better 600 Series until I do.
Best Regards,
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THanks, keep us posted.Originally posted by hifiguymiComment
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Perhaps I was misunderstood, I was refering to the HTM61 center speaker not the series itself. If I read correctly this particular center speaker utilizes the FST speaker as a woofer rather than the mid in the upper series range. I wonder how this sound.The current DM604s3 is a three way and the new 683 is a three way in the 600 Series.
The 703 is a three way in the 700 Series.
In the 800 Series everything is a three way except the 805S, SCMS, and the HTM4S so it seems like that is the only series with three way speakers.
The best match for N804's would be a used HTM1 or the current HTM3S, but if you listen to more two channel music you'll have to listen to the HTM61 when it comes out and decide if it work for you.
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In the PDF that kunda has it states that the FST is a midrange. Since the FST doesn't have much in the way of excursion it can only be a midrange.Originally posted by goe2112
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These look pretty interesting to me for HT. I suppose this may be shallow of me, but I'd really like real wood, which the literature doesn't mention real veneers. Do I assume they aren't real then? Also, do any of you think the center channel with the FST might match well with the CM7, which also has the FST (and real wood) What do you think?Ted
"I've gone to this high school for seven and a half years - I'm no dummy." - Better Off Dead
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He meant the only three-way CENTER speaker.Originally posted by hifiguymiComment
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I think it goes without saying that contacting the manufacturer isn't a very reliable way to find out this information. Manufacturers always keep this information under wraps because they want consumers to buy what's currently out on the market.
As far as a series 4 goes, I have no idea, either. From purely anecdotal evidence, series 4 might be coming up. Here in Tokyo, I see that big electronics stores that carried 600 series 3 speakers six months ago no longer carry some of the models. It might just be coincidence though.
Personally, I'd like to see 600 series 4 come out. That means I'll be able to buy older siblings for for my 602 S3s.
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Updated. A B&W represenative from the UK office confirmed to me that dealers in the states will get the new 600 S4s, end of May or early June.
So for those saving up for speakers, a bit more patience will get you an oppurtunity to audition this new line.
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Were you referring to me here? If you look at the dates in this thread, someone brought back a rather old posting.Originally posted by scanido
I only wish I worked for B&W... If it's of any interst, I have an all 600 series setup now.Comment
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Hi everyone,
I'm a new user here but have been lurking since 2007 before I bought my 600 series speakers. This has always seemed like a very civil group and I thank you all for that! With that in mind, please understand that I am not looking to get into any arguments on this topic.
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I'm currently using a pair of 600 S3 speakers as temporary rears for watching HT. I am thinking about getting a pair of DS6/DS3 to wall mount, but I can't compare which series, S3 or S4, matches the Nautilus series better. I would like to know which series of 600 series speakers would be a better...27 February 2009, 22:52 Friday -
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Just wanted to say that IMHO the 600 series 3 standmount speakers are the best value speakers out there. They may not be the most fashionable speakers out there (I think the drivers look great though) but sound per pound, can they be beaten?
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I'm currently contemplating between the 300 (4 x DM303, LCR3, ASW300) and 600 series (2 x 601s3, 2x 600s3, LCR60, ASW600) for movies and I'm starting to think that it may be worth the extra $500 to move up to the 600 series (this would pretty much top out my speaker budget) but I'm concerned that my... -
I was wondering if any of you have modified your 600 series B&W's?...like upgraded crossover components, speaker, or cabinet mods or tweaks.
Any specific 600 series mod links that you know of?
Thanks!!
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