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  • tboooe
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 657

    Great CD to test B&Ws soundstage

    Sting "The Soul Cages"

    Wow! Almost every track has significant portions where the soundstage is cast very wide! On my 804S, there were times when the soundstage was at least 5" to the sides of the speakers! Amazing CD..honetly, I dont even like Sting that much but the 804S makes we want to listen to him just to hear the incredible music. Actually, I find myself buying lots of CDs now of people who I dont necessarily enjoy from my entertainment perspective. The 804S are just so much fun to listen to!!!!
  • Briz vegas
    Super Senior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 1199

    #2
    You have raised an interesting issue there. B&W speakers are all about accurate reproduction of recorded music (as are all good speakers), but as you get to the high end stuff - how much does this end up changing what we listen to and is that a good thing. Maybe it is just a phase when you first get your new B&W 80#s which reveal every nuance in the recording.

    I really enjoyed going through my collection from A to Z after my last ungrade, listening for changes such as a bigger sound stage or more detail.
    Today I bought the new Kate Bush CD Aerial which sounds pretty good on the 705s. A few months back I would have been focusing on things like sound stage, today it was just Kate's quirky take on music..............but I bet she would sound even better on a pair of 804s.
    Mac 8gb SSD Audirvana ->Weiss INT202 firewire interface ->Naim DAC & XPS2 DR->Conrad Johnson CT5 & LP70S-> Vivid B1s. Nordost Valhalla cables & resonance management. (Still waiting for Paul Hynes PS:M)
    Siamese :evil: :twisted:

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    • Eliav
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2005
      • 484

      #3
      Originally posted by tboooe
      Sting "The Soul Cages"

      Wow! Almost every track has significant portions where the soundstage is cast very wide! On my 804S, there were times when the soundstage was at least 5" to the sides of the speakers! Amazing CD..honetly, I dont even like Sting that much but the 804S makes we want to listen to him just to hear the incredible music. Actually, I find myself buying lots of CDs now of people who I dont necessarily enjoy from my entertainment perspective. The 804S are just so much fun to listen to!!!!
      HI
      I absolutely agree, I have been doing the same ever since I purchased my 803s. I found my self enjoying the reproduction, the vocals and everything else Other than the theme per se.
      The Fleetwood Mac recordings are great for soundstaging, especially
      " Rumours" - lots of strings and vocals that sound coming from my neghibour's backyard...
      Dont forget to add some acoustic traps around your room, you'll be amazed of what your 804s can really do !
      Cheers
      Eliav
      :T Socrat

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      • Gump
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2005
        • 522

        #4
        I have to admit I'm guilty of this too. I bought the Michael McDonald "Motown" DVD-Audio the other day just because I was curious how it might sound on my 803D's. I'm not a big fan of his, (I prefer the pre-mcdonald Doobies) and my wife saw the CD and was grilling me on why I bought it. She says, "You dont even like his music!", and I said, "I bought it for you, Dear.". Well, she didnt buy that for a second either.

        The point is that having this nice equipment makes you curious how it performs and can take you away from just enjoying the music that you like. I guess the good news is that it can broaden your musical horizons and when people ask you what kind of music you like you can use big words like "electic".

        ....and buy the way; the Motown CD sounded great!

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        • Gump
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2005
          • 522

          #5
          ops: "eclectic"...that is---

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          • bigburner
            Super Senior Member
            • May 2005
            • 2649

            #6
            Little Feat - "Waiting for Columbus"

            For a 1978 live recording it shouldn't be this good, but I cannot think of a CD that sounds better on my system.

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            • miner
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2005
              • 900

              #7
              I have to add 'Double Troble's' (SRV's bandmates) 'It's Been A Long Time'.

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              • grit
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2005
                • 580

                #8
                I have to say my 703s have completely changed what I listen to and how much I listen. I'm amazed, and happy for it.

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                • DrJRapp
                  Super Senior Member
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 1204

                  #9
                  Probably the most incredible soundstageing I have heard on the 803Ds was the Holly Cole Trio album titled Don't smoke in Bed. There is a double bass riff in the opening cut that makes the bass seem 10' tall folowwed by some piano that anchors the center in a way that is uncanny.
                  Jerry Rappaport

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                  • JKalman
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 708

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tboooe
                    Sting "The Soul Cages"

                    Wow! Almost every track has significant portions where the soundstage is cast very wide! On my 804S, there were times when the soundstage was at least 5" to the sides of the speakers! Amazing CD..honetly, I dont even like Sting that much but the 804S makes we want to listen to him just to hear the incredible music. Actually, I find myself buying lots of CDs now of people who I dont necessarily enjoy from my entertainment perspective. The 804S are just so much fun to listen to!!!!
                    I find Steve Vai's Passion and Warfare to be one of the best albums for me to test equipment my with. Especially songs number 7 and 13. Between those two songs you cover the entire spectrum of sounds. You get electric distortion on the first while getting really detailed accoustic on the second with some amazing bass licks. Song number 13 has some really good acoustic bass moments too, so you can really get a sense of how well your amp is working with your speakers at different sound levels.

                    I like to use fast moving music to test also, to see if a lot of tracks playing all at once very fast lose any of their dynamics, which song number 7 is incredible for; there is one point in the song where he is picking licks so fast that I had never heard it clearly until I upgraded to my 802D speakers.

                    Oh, you will have to use something else for vocals though. I usually use Nora Jones' Come Away with Me song number 1, which also has some great acoustic sounds in the background.

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                    • Mark_C.
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 386

                      #11
                      Probably the most incredible soundstageing I have heard on the 803Ds was the Holly Cole Trio album titled Don't smoke in Bed.
                      Amen! I have used the Holly Cole Trio to demo numerous speakers, and the disc sounds great on my Nautilus 804s. Also, Erykah Badu live is really something else. Some incredible bass on the first two tracks.

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                      • MFox
                        Junior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 6

                        #12
                        I have a b&w surround setup (803s/804s/htm3s) and the new depeche mode album (the 5.1 dts) sounds great on them.

                        also worth to listen to are dire straits - brother in arms (sacd) and the jean michel jarre aero dvd.

                        I also experience that I start to buy cd's that I wouldn't have bought in first place. To me the speakers are worth every cent!
                        Michael

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                        • aphexist
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 158

                          #13
                          The original version of Nine Inch Nails "The Perfect Drug" to be found on the Lost Highway soundtrack has some incredible rear soundstaging (from just 2 channels) on the whole track. Listen during the drum breakdown towards the end of the song (before the quiet part) and the loud breakbeats actually shoot out from the speakers on both sides and attack the back of your head! Incredible!

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                          • Angioguy
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 100

                            #14
                            B&W Soundstage

                            Hi,

                            I, too, have been scouring the internet trying to find the best-sounding cd recordings ever since I upgraded to 803's. Some that immediately come to mind include EL&P's, "From The Beginning," "Nirvana Unplugged," and Al Dimeola's Friday Night in San Francisco." Lately, like some of you, I find I'm looking for anything that simply sounds great and that has a big soundstage-- even if it's something I might ordinarily not listen to. It's like watching HD TV channels purely for the image quality if for no other reason. I, however, want to enjoy my music too....
                            Anyone know of any truly great rock/classical CD recordings with incredibly tight bass percussion, crisp strings, wide dynamic range and very little noise that no audiophile library could do without??
                            B&W 802D, HTMS-4; Velodyne DD-12, Arcam AVR-300, McIntosh MC-402, Musical Fidelity KW-SACD, Pioneer Elite

                            "... these go to eleven."

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                            • perato
                              Member
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 65

                              #15
                              Safri Duo Episode II has varied percussion instruments. Some bass percussion instruments but also lots of other percussion like vibraphone and tom-toms. Some tracks have string instruments. There is some three dimensional soundstage and as far as I can little to no distortion. It is not rock or classical; it is dance/club performed with real instruments instead of synthesizers.
                              In the end, let YOUR ears and YOUR wallet be your guide.

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                              • JKalman
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 708

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Angioguy
                                Hi,

                                I, too, have been scouring the internet trying to find the best-sounding cd recordings ever since I upgraded to 803's. Some that immediately come to mind include EL&P's, "From The Beginning," "Nirvana Unplugged," and Al Dimeola's Friday Night in San Francisco." Lately, like some of you, I find I'm looking for anything that simply sounds great and that has a big soundstage-- even if it's something I might ordinarily not listen to. It's like watching HD TV channels purely for the image quality if for no other reason. I, however, want to enjoy my music too....
                                Anyone know of any truly great rock/classical CD recordings with incredibly tight bass percussion, crisp strings, wide dynamic range and very little noise that no audiophile library could do without??
                                The first two tracks on Rusted Roots first album, first one is a percussion solo, which leads into the second song.

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                                • Mitchell
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Sep 2004
                                  • 202

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Angioguy
                                  Hi,


                                  Anyone know of any truly great rock/classical CD recordings with incredibly tight bass percussion, crisp strings, wide dynamic range and very little noise that no audiophile library could do without??
                                  Neil Youngs greatest hits is an amazing remix that is an HDCD and it sounds amazing on my RCD1072 and B&W 703's.
                                  Mitchell

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                                  • moonlightdrive21
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Dec 2005
                                    • 164

                                    #18
                                    Alicia Keys "Unplugged" CD is excellent for testing it all (vocals, piano, strings, horns, guitar and amazing bass).

                                    There are very melodic songs and a number of great/heavy jams with multiple instruments oozing with dynamics!! Really amazing sound/mix!

                                    I always use this CD to show off my 802D's.

                                    Dave

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                                    • aphexist
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 158

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by aphexist
                                      The original version of Nine Inch Nails "The Perfect Drug" to be found on the Lost Highway soundtrack has some incredible rear soundstaging (from just 2 channels) on the whole track. Listen during the drum breakdown towards the end of the song (before the quiet part) and the loud breakbeats actually shoot out from the speakers on both sides and attack the back of your head! Incredible!
                                      You are such an idiot!

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                                      • Ryx
                                        Member
                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 76

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by aphexist
                                        You are such an idiot!
                                        ok you have me well confused! why would you call yourself an idiot??????

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                                        • JKalman
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Nov 2005
                                          • 708

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by aphexist
                                          The original version of Nine Inch Nails "The Perfect Drug" to be found on the Lost Highway soundtrack has some incredible rear soundstaging (from just 2 channels) on the whole track. Listen during the drum breakdown towards the end of the song (before the quiet part) and the loud breakbeats actually shoot out from the speakers on both sides and attack the back of your head! Incredible!
                                          I had this happen to me with one of the tracks on David Bowie's Ziggy Stardust last night. I almost had a heart attack, I thought someone snuck into my damn office in my basement and had come up behind me. All of a sudden I heard David Bowie say something directly behind me. I almost jumped out of my seating position to defend myself. :E

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                                          • JKalman
                                            Senior Member
                                            • Nov 2005
                                            • 708

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Angioguy
                                            Anyone know of any truly great rock/classical CD recordings with incredibly tight bass percussion, crisp strings, wide dynamic range and very little noise that no audiophile library could do without??
                                            Bela Fleck and the Flecktones' "Outbound" also has some great percussions and bass, wide dynamics and crisp strings. Also Bela Fleck's early album, "Drive".

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                                            • aphexist
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 158

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Ryx
                                              ok you have me well confused! why would you call yourself an idiot??????
                                              Sorry. It just slipped out. Won't happen again.

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