Pictures of your B&W Set-up

[ShadowZA]

YES YES YES!!! I got them!!! My babes are home!!! YES YES YES!!!!!

When everything is set up, new fotos!!!!

Congratulations on your 802D's! Beautiful!!!

[ninja12]

I replaced the casters on my 802D's about 2 months ago. The 802D's are on carpet over pad in a basement (so cement subfloor).

While the 802D's on the casters did not move much on the carpet, there was a little wiggle in them. Now with the spikes, they absolutely do not move at
all.

As to the sound, the spikes definitely make a difference. Tighter bass, overall presentation improved, soundstage is better.

They are a bit of work to get them on, and once the 802D's are down they aren't moving, so make sure they are where you want them.


Hope this helps.

Yes, this definitely helps, and I appreciate your response. What difficulty did you run into trying to get them on?

[Eliav]

New Listening Room in evolution

New listening room ( two channels, no HT... :W ) is being put together... lots of acoustic correction are still needed. (the room EQ is horrible , I am working on placing 22 bass traps all over..)) Anyhow, this room is the home of a new 800d replacing my 802d..
I will post more when everything is in place.
Cheers

[KahunaCanuck]

New listening room ( two channels, no HT... :W ) is being put together... lots of acoustic correction are still needed. (the room EQ is horrible , I am working on placing 22 bass traps all over..)) Anyhow, this room is the home of a new 800d replacing my 802d..
I will post more when everything is in place.
Cheers

Sweet set up! You will have lots of fun fine tuning the room while listening on your system...the 800Ds are gorgeous!!! :T

[HDBLU]

New listening room ( two channels, no HT... :W ) is being put together... lots of acoustic correction are still needed. (the room EQ is horrible , I am working on placing 22 bass traps all over..)) Anyhow, this room is the home of a new 800d replacing my 802d..
I will post more when everything is in place.
Cheers

Nice setup you are one lucky box :T

[style]

Hi Eliav,
nice & great system.
AND

very good work with the EQ room correction pannels. :T

how do you have make to decide where how much pieces? - what for
software of spectrum analizer do have used?

help from a "company"?

thx Style

[htsteve]

Yes, this definitely helps, and I appreciate your response. What difficulty did you run into trying to get them on?

It just took time and patience, and two people. Moving the 802D's around definitely requires two people.

Taking the casters off and putting the spikes on wasn't hard at all. It was getting to them that I took my time figuring out.

Here is what I did.

I taped off the base of the 802D's so I know where to put them back to.

I then took seat cushons (two or three are needed depending on thickness) and laid them on the floor in front of the speaker. We then tiltled forward the speaker unto the cushons. The cushons were against the main body of the speaker. The marlin head/tweeter were not touching anything. In this position, the 802D wants to roll to one side ot the other. So I put a pillow under one side of the cushons and rolled the speaker to that side. The 802D was down, not moving and the base was exposed. Changing the casters out was easy.

Finally, the hardest part was at hand. We rolled the 802D back to vertical on the cushions, and then tilted up, lifted up the 802D and put it pack in place. Repeated this for the other speaker and we were done.

We quickly realized two things. They do not move at all know. And the sound was better, which made the effort quite worthwhile.


Hope this helps.

[ZX10 Guy]

No dramatic changes except a re-arrangement of the rack and the Carver TFM-25 taking a dump. So I now have a Emotiva XPA-2 in the rack.

[ninja12]

It just took time and patience, and two people. Moving the 802D's around definitely requires two people.

Taking the casters off and putting the spikes on wasn't hard at all. It was getting to them that I took my time figuring out.

Here is what I did.

I taped off the base of the 802D's so I know where to put them back to.

I then took seat cushons (two or three are needed depending on thickness) and laid them on the floor in front of the speaker. We then tiltled forward the speaker unto the cushons. The cushons were against the main body of the speaker. The marlin head/tweeter were not touching anything. In this position, the 802D wants to roll to one side ot the other. So I put a pillow under one side of the cushons and rolled the speaker to that side. The 802D was down, not moving and the base was exposed. Changing the casters out was easy.

Finally, the hardest part was at hand. We rolled the 802D back to vertical on the cushions, and then tilted up, lifted up the 802D and put it pack in place. Repeated this for the other speaker and we were done.

We quickly realized two things. They do not move at all know. And the sound was better, which made the effort quite worthwhile.


Hope this helps.

Thanks a lot once again htSteve. I appreciate the info and the helpful hint on how you installed your spikes. I do know for sure that it definitely takes two people to move the 802Ds. Right now, I have plenty of help with my 14 year old son who's playing football and lifting weights. He loves helping me out so that I can see how strong he's getting. I will have his help until he leaves for college which will not be for another 3 more years. Anyway, thanks again. :T

[Eliav]

[QUOTE=style]Hi Eliav,
nice & great system.
AND

very good work with the EQ room correction pannels. :T

how do you have make to decide where how much pieces? - what for
software of spectrum analizer do have used?

help from a "company"?

thx Style[/QUOT
Thanks Guys for your complements.
Style : the Low frequency response in my room is far from being ideal, you can tell by just moving around in the room, where some spots sound boomy and other sound lacking depth. The room's ceiling unfortunately is built in such a way that the surface area containing corners is huge. I am planning to cover as many corners as possible, and then test the room with a software called homeEQWizzard, to see if there is more evidence of standing waves. Otherwise the first and second reflection points from all walls are going to be covered. Like said, I will post more photos when done...
Cheers
Eliav

[style]

Style : the Low frequency response in my room is far from being ideal, you can tell by just moving around in the room, where some spots sound boomy and other sound lacking depth. The room's ceiling unfortunately is built in such a way that the surface area containing corners is huge. I am planning to cover as many corners as possible, and then test the room with a software called homeEQWizzard, to see if there is more evidence of standing waves. Otherwise the first and second reflection points from all walls are going to be covered. Like said, I will post more photos when done...
Cheers

thx Eliav,
well with wait the "evoluion" from your room.. :T

But attention to much absorber panels dont give you a better sound but you go have the "reverse" a very bad sound....is true that's you have a 2 channel system and not a HT...-> not so hard to drive the sound from the speakers.?!


Style

[wettou]

When I buy a 300 m2 house, I certainly go for Grande Utopia... Now with a 26 m2 room, 802D are PERFECT :T

Outside they sound great

[BlazeMaster]

ZX10Guy,
I've always loved your room and your room decor style, are you in the interior design field? For such a nice room with such expensive equipment, I'm still waiting for the day you incorporate a front projector in the mix. I'd love to see your take on incorporating a projector and screen combo. While it's nice to have a dark room purely for home theater, I'd still appreciate your take on keeping everything modern, and clean, so that it can still be a room that you want to lounge in without the movies.

[Eliav]

You are right Style - too much coverage and too many traps may cause a "dead" room effect, particularly for HT rooms. This is nor my intention here, There will be plenty of reflecting surface left in my room. I am planning to cover as many corners as possible, this is never too much in low-frequency traps, the more the better, it should produce a more flat bass response, which is what you want to get from every speakers, particularly the 800d..
Thanks

[ShadowZA]

New listening room ( two channels, no HT... :W ) is being put together... lots of acoustic correction are still needed. (the room EQ is horrible , I am working on placing 22 bass traps all over..)) Anyhow, this room is the home of a new 800d replacing my 802d..
I will post more when everything is in place.
Cheers

Superb setup, Eliav. :T

[Eliav]

Thanks!

[ZX10 Guy]

ZX10Guy,
I've always loved your room and your room decor style, are you in the interior design field? For such a nice room with such expensive equipment, I'm still waiting for the day you incorporate a front projector in the mix. I'd love to see your take on incorporating a projector and screen combo. While it's nice to have a dark room purely for home theater, I'd still appreciate your take on keeping everything modern, and clean, so that it can still be a room that you want to lounge in without the movies.

Thanks, I appreciate the comments.

Everyone keeps asking about whether I'll ever do a front projector. The thing is as much as I've spent on video, I'm still more focused on the audio aspect of the system. Maybe one of these days when I don't have anything left to occupy my time, I might look into integrating a projector.

Oh and no I'm not in the interior design business. I just have a certain style I like. For some reason I'm able to create a vision of what I want to the room to look like and then figure out the things I need to put together to make it all come together. And I agree with your sentiments about your typical dedicated dark room for A/V which was the driving force behind how I designed the room. If I hadn't posted this some where, here is the area outside of my dedicated room....(keep in mind this is the basement of my house):

[Hammie]

Thanks, I appreciate the comments.

Everyone keeps asking about whether I'll ever do a front projector. The thing is as much as I've spent on video, I'm still more focused on the audio aspect of the system. Maybe one of these days when I don't have anything left to occupy my time, I might look into integrating a projector.

Oh and no I'm not in the interior design business. I just have a certain style I like. For some reason I'm able to create a vision of what I want to the room to look like and then figure out the things I need to put together to make it all come together. And I agree with your sentiments about your typical dedicated dark room for A/V which was the driving force behind how I designed the room. If I hadn't posted this some where, here is the area outside of my dedicated room....(keep in mind this is the basement of my house):

Very nice basement.

Where did you get the painting of the dancers and the umbrellas. I would love to get that for my wife. I think she would love something like that.

[ZX10 Guy]

Very nice basement.

Where did you get the painting of the dancers and the umbrellas. I would love to get that for my wife. I think she would love something like that.

Thank you.

The artist of the painting is Jack Vettriano and is called The Singing Buttler. I'm a huge fan of Jack Vettriano. Brent Heighton also has a similar style of whom I'm also a big fan of.

[planitismetal]

Outside they sound great

Thanks wettou... Appreciate your comment... :thanku:

[style]

Hi planitismetal,

your 802D are better .....no,

no better FOR ME for my personal taste the 802D are a lot but really much
really much vs. a Focal Grand Utopia, Scala, ......
the Focal Utopia sound like a piece of steel struck ...
Remember the triangle of metal that was played at school 8O

this is what the Focal give me...nothing more.

Style

[dyazdani]

New listening room ( two channels, no HT... :W ) is being put together... lots of acoustic correction are still needed. (the room EQ is horrible , I am working on placing 22 bass traps all over..)) Anyhow, this room is the home of a new 800d replacing my 802d..
I will post more when everything is in place.
Cheers

Looks great, I'd come over for a listen, but I don't think you live quite as close anymore!

[Eliav]

Danish
good to hear from you again ! There is no too far (when you drive a Porsche .. :W ).
I will be PM you with my address, in case you're around.
Keep in touch
Eliav

[dyazdani]

I did just put new tires on it...

[btf1980]

Nothing has changed, just took a few new shots.

[Hammie]

Nothing has changed, just took a few new shots.

You have a beautiful setup.

Do you have any issues with resonance between your speaker and TT. I was told that a TT should not be too close to a speaker.

I'd like to get into vinyl but the only place I could put a TT would be between my front speaker and A/V cabinet.

Any thoughts or opinions?

[BWLover]

the tt is on the solid shelf not the "silent" shelf. why is that?

[btf1980]

You have a beautiful setup.

Do you have any issues with resonance between your speaker and TT. I was told that a TT should not be too close to a speaker.

I'd like to get into vinyl but the only place I could put a TT would be between my front speaker and A/V cabinet.

Any thoughts or opinions?

Like I mentioned over on the blu-ray forums, as long as the TT is not in direct firing position of the speakers, then it will be fine. I have had no problems, whatsoever.

[btf1980]

the tt is on the solid shelf not the "silent" shelf. why is that?

It's just for extra security and stability. It's very important for a turntable.

[pazu]

:T pazu's Hi-Fi system :T

Source: North Star Transport 192 + Extremo Dac (made in Italy)

Tuner: Marantz model 2100 (made in USA)

Integrated Amplifier: Unison Research Unico 100 - pre with tubes (Telefunken Ecc803S) and main with mosfet (made in Italy)

Loudspeakers: B&W 803S - of course! (made in UK)

On the wall rear the loudspeakers : "The Attainment", Tapestry by Sir Edward Burne Jones and William Morris.

On the opposite wall: "The round table", another Tapestry by Sir Edward Jones and William Morris:

[Grasynoll]

Nice pazu, well done

[htsteve]

pazu,

Very, very nice. Beautifull all the way around. I like the bookshelves in the corners. Natural corner bass traps.

[Ken49r]

pazu,

I like the bookshelves in the corners. Natural corner bass traps.

I was thinking the same thing - nice job of utilizing furniture for room EQ.

[pazu]

Oh, very thanks, boys!

In effect, I love books and wood and I always try to cure the environment in natural way.

I hope to post others better photos asap.

[aarsoe]

Pazu

Think the "quest for the holy grail" is VERY fitting as a symbol of all of our ever continuous quest for ever better sound... ;-)

[planitismetal]

Listen and you'll see!!!!!!

December 2008



April 2009




FINAL SET UP NOVEMBER 2009







AND A LITTLE MAGIC






With empty walls waiting acoustic treatment...

[pazu]

Pazu

Think the "quest for the holy grail" is VERY fitting as a symbol of all of our ever continuous quest for ever better sound... ;-)

That's sure, aarsoe!

On other hand, the graal is a symbol that represents the search of the perfection...

:T

[btf1980]

planitismetal, that is quite the upgrade. Impressive!!

[boarder1995]

Pazu - love the simplicity of the room with the wonderful wall hanging. Natural room acoustic breakup features are always more attractive than the sometimes necessary evils that are big panels and corner traps. Your setup makes the 803S look more reasonable in size, whereas in the store they look and feel big to me. Very helpful image. Thanks!

planitismetal - your images on the other hand are NOT helpful. Making highlight of certain items with lights, only further entice me to want them. The Classe bridge over the center channel doesn't help matters either. I wonder how that'd look with all Mac gear - very different, but perhaps still wonderful?

All great photos to show the natural wood finishes in different lights are helpful.

[KyaDawn]

Great set-up planitismetal! :T Did you move your 805s to the rear?

[ShadowZA]

Fantastic setup, pazu! :T

Excellent photos & setup, planitismetal! :T

[wettou]

planitismetal


Nice progression the acoustic panels in the front walls will improve your sound drastically If I may offer some suggestions, put the CDs in the back for diffusion, put a rug on the floor and also you might want to move the speakers a bit forward.

[pazu]

Very thanks to shadow and boarder!

A question for all: how many meters have you got from loudspeakers to posterior wall?

My 803S are to 0.5 meters to posterior wall and 1.0 meter to lateral ones.

In my room, with these numbers I've got the better sound.

The sofa is to 2.80 meters from loudspeakers.

[style]

Hi George,

like in my PM great job!!!

:T :T

Omar

[planitismetal]

Great set-up planitismetal! :T Did you move your 805s to the rear?

Yes KyaDawn! First love never forget!!!
Thank you everybody!! I'm just waiting the DD-18 and then my dealer to set up the hole system together with room treatment!!!