Pictures of your B&W Set-up

[Nolan B]

HI Guys! Here goes. After months of planning, here it goes!
Ray

Oooops, How do I attach the pictures?

use photo-bucket

[Nolan B]

These are more Classe-ish pictures I took after making some changes and adding a new SSP, but the FPMs and PV1s are still there. Next its either 805s or CM9s.

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[kmcheng]

Bel canto is quite rare in the forum
but it look very attractive

have you ever compared with Rotel amplifier traditional and D class Amplifier

Not directly. However, I do have a Rotel 1085 powering my rear speakers. Just for fun I compared the 1085 vs. the Bel Canto amp. To be honest I could not really tell a big difference. I kept the Bel Canto in my setup just so that I do not need to turn on the Rotel 1069 when I am listening to CD or iTunes.

There are plenty of people on this forum who have compared the traditional Rotel amp vs. its class D version, so I will defer to their wisdom on this subject.

[Ethan06]

[QUOTE=Vancouver]These are more Classe-ish pictures I took after making some changes and adding a new SSP, but the FPMs and PV1s are still there. Next its either 805s or CM9s.

Like the changes Vancouver! That's some killer gear. I remember first seeing your setup over on the AVS XBox owners page.

How do you like the Apple TV? I just picked one up myself. Can't beat the simplicity.
Would you consider XT8s over the larger footprints of the CM9s and 805?
A pair in gloss black would look sweet for your setup but I'm XT biased

cheers

[Nolan B]

[QUOTE=Ethan06]

These are more Classe-ish pictures I took after making some changes and adding a new SSP, but the FPMs and PV1s are still there. Next its either 805s or CM9s.

Like the changes Vancouver! That's some killer gear. I remember first seeing your setup over on the AVS XBox owners page.

How do you like the Apple TV? I just picked one up myself. Can't beat the simplicity.
Would you consider XT8s over the larger footprints of the CM9s and 805?
A pair in gloss black would look sweet for your setup but I'm XT biased

cheers

thanks for the comments..

Apple TV is the best valued HT addition available IMO. Streaming music, SD DVDs, renting when the BD isnt available.

I havent heard the XT8s so i cant really comment. I remember reading that the last XT series only really shinned when the volume was up high and lost quality at lower levels. This isnt ideal for me since most of my listening is lower to moderate levels.

What are your impressions of them at lower-medium levels?

[Eddie.Nyce]

New to the forum.

First off i would like to congratulate everyone on their amazing set ups. From big to small we all share a common love for B&W ;x(

Anyhow i am by no means an audiophile but i do like to enjoy my music selection and watch movies...so without further a do, here is my humble set up.

Video:
Samsung 52" 650 series 1080P 120hz
92" Pull Down, Modified to 2.35:1 aspect with light absorbing velvet
Mitsubishi DLP HD Projector HC1600

Audio:
Denon 3808Ci
B&W 704's
B&W HTM7
Energy Mini Rears (soon to be replaced)
Energy 10" Sub (soon to be replaced)

Misc:
Sony PS3 80GB with External WD Passport 250GB
Motorola PVR DCT3416 160GB

Future Upgrades:
SVS 12Plus Compact Sub
Rotel Amp
Component stand (to keep my little girls sticky hands off the gear

[KahunaCanuck]

Nic epics and nice system Eddie! I like the red dress!

[Birdy]

I like the red dress!

Pain in my back just looking at her....

Birdy

[cdika17]

We need more pictures, im a visual guy.

[Eddie.Nyce]

Thanks Gents! I wish people would post more pictures! I love viewing other people's set ups.

And yes, the lady in red, ain't she a beaut!

[1oldguy]

Now that is eye candy.....Always liked the color red.

[ray5]

My setup

Hi Guys! Here goes. Finally managed to upload these! Thanks so much for all the help, without this forum I could not have been where I am.
Ray

[garak]

Very nice Ray. :T

All of you guys with those 802Ds are really starting to make my upgraditis flare up. 8O

[WelshOne]

Genuinely, I think I have gone through the entire thread at least twice, loving everyones pics just as much, and it has been my inspiration!! :T

So much so I think I now blame you all for me being skint and at risk of divorce :B

Here is my modest current set up to add to this superb gallery. You'll have to excuse my shoddy camera and photography skills, and also the exposed cabling. I have been doing quite a few demos this year and have not had the time to do anything permanant.

Kit is:

B&W605S2, CDM CNT, 601S2, Sunfire HRS 12, Rotel 1570, Rotel 1575, Denon 3800BD, Cyrus CD8, PS3, Sky HD, Pioneer 5090, Stands Unique Racks, Chord Odyssey, Rumour and Chorus cabling, Nordost Shiva, Harmony One, Dedicated Mains Spur to x2 outlets, each outlet has x8 unswitched M&K sockets.

Any comments or criticisms graciously accepted.

Thanks for looking.

[artv4]

WelshOne take a pics of the gear please. man what a setup. how does the cdm cnt mate with the 605? is there anyway to reposition your single chair infront of the right front 605?

[mjb]

WelshOne - that looks fantastic! Very nicely done, and I bet it sounds excellent. Can you take some pics of your equipment rack please?

[mvdveek]

Hi WelshOne. Nice setup mate.
Hows the new Rotel gear musicaly. If been thinking on purchasing them myself.

[Mig17]

1575 is powerful enough to drive the 605 ?

[WelshOne]

Thank guys!

I will take some more pics asap of kit and rack.

The CDM mates very well with the 605's, but I do not listen to multichannel much, so it may be more noticeable there?

Ive come away from a cyrus AV8, which as you may or may not know is a music first, av second processor. The Rotel killed it immediately for both AV and 2ch.

The Rotel 1575 is/was no problem to power my current set up, and the 605's were the easiest to drive as they have active bass, so the amp only need to power midrange and treble.

However, I now have 803D's and 805S rears (HTM3S on order) and the amp is clipping into safe mode frequently at approx the same volume when pushed with the 600 package?

Im not sure what to do there?

[JustinGN]

My old setup

Because I'm just not seeing enough 600 series love here

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This was my old setup; it's been in storage since the move, though I made sure to get storage/packing instructions from my B&W dealer first (They're perfectly safe and snug in their original packaging). Gear includes:

Sharp LC-46D64U LCD
Denon AVR-1803
Xbox 360 w/ HD-DVD Addon
PS3
Wii
Dreamcast
Three PCs (One not in the picture; partially fried)
Yamaha Subwoofer
B&W 684 Speakers for my Fronts, and Sony Satellites/Center for the remaining three channels

Yes, I know pairing B&W speakers with Sony HTiB Satellites is a travesty, but I bought those things on a $10/hr paycheck at the time (still lived at home); took me four months of saving up, but it was the best money I'd spent in a long while. I've got a new job now out here in the boonies of WV, but I'm still (unfortunately) stuck with the parents. All I've got unpacked are my Game Systems and TV - everything else is in storage.

I will be grabbing some B&W 685s for the rears and an HTM61 for the Center Channel next time I'm in Pitt, though; they'll just sit with my Dad's Yamaha RX-V1400 until my situation changes.

[htsteve]

However, I now have 803D's and 805S rears (HTM3S on order) and the amp is clipping into safe mode frequently at approx the same volume when pushed with the 600 package?

Im not sure what to do there?

WelshOne,

Hmmm. A bit surprised to hear the 1575 is clipping, and the center channel is not even there yet. Do you play really loud? I assume all the settings are complete. If you have a sub, set your crossover at 80Hz. Also, set the speaker size to Small.

How old is the 1575? You might call your dealer and talk with them about this.



Hope this helps.

[WelshOne]

Hi Steve,

Yes I am playing it loud, probably too loud? But the 600 series was not causing the amp to clip at those volumes, but then again the 605's were active bass, therefore only powering treble and mid, so not too labouring for the amp.

The speakers are set to large for music, small for HT, but crossed at 60hz.

I will try your suggestions. Its just the manual said something along the lines that large floorstanding speaker that are capable can be set to large? I assumed speakers such as the 803D and HTM3 would be suitable for 'large' settings?

I'll need to have a play further.

Thanks :T

[cdika17]

Crappy cell phone picture, current temp setup in living room, just about finished the basement reno's. Next pics will be from new setup in theater room! Also a before pic of the basement.

N805's fronts
NHTM2 center
Soundstage bfx8 sub
LG 52 LBX LCD
Xbox360
PS3
Bell PVR

Coming:
Rotel 1570&1575
APC H15
Mitsubishi HC7000 PJ
Carada 110" screen
Wadia 170i transport
SVS PC-Ultra13
All ran by Canare cables

Later:
805's for the rear.

[htsteve]

WelshOne,

From a 'Small vs. Large' perspective, the size of the speaker can be an indicator of bass capability. Large means that the speaker can reproduce all bass notes, and do them very well. This means to the 25-30Hz range. Most speakers, even ones as awesome as 803D's, will fall off as they go that low. That's were the sub comes in. So these are in fact SMALL (at least to me). Bass notes are the biggest effort for any amp.

My 802D's are set to SMALL and I use the very excellent Velodyne DD18 sub (calibrated to my room) for the low end. A very good arrangement.

Try SMALL and crossing over at both 60 and 80 HZ. See which you like best, from a sound and 'going into protection' perspective.



Hope this helps.

[htsteve]

cdika17,

A nice system now. But a very good system in a dedicated room will be sweet. Looking forward to new room pictures.

[WelshOne]

Cdika17,

Awesome new set up, your going to love the rotel! And ive demo'd the PC Ultra 13 several times, wow that goes low!

Steve, thanks again. I wont need to ask you twice! :B

Ill set them to small and try various crossover settings. I admit it is loud when this is happening!

It was this potential clip problem and the HTM3S as a centre that's been the fly in the glass of champagne for me.

I hope this all works out and integrates and works well, as this package is just within reach and bit of a deal. A HTM2D as a centre would kill the deal in terms of overall cost. :cry:

[MikeFL52]

Steve, thanks again. I wont need to ask you twice! :B

Ill set them to small and try various crossover settings. I admit it is loud when this is happening!

It was this potential clip problem and the HTM3S as a centre that's been the fly in the glass of champagne for me.

I hope this all works out and integrates and works well, as this package is just within reach and bit of a deal. A HTM2D as a centre would kill the deal in terms of overall cost. :cry:

I have this same combination across the front (803Ds, HTM3S) being driven by an Anthem D1/P5 combo. The frequency response of the 803Ds is good down to about 35Hz before it starts to drop off and I cover that range with a couple of PB13 Ultras. I think if you have to set the cross-overs for the 803Ds at 60 or 80Hz then depending on the slope of the filter, you will be limiting your 803Ds ability to perform to their capability. I drive my system to very high volumes (at least according to my wife) without any evidence of clipping or distortion, so maybe the Rotel is limiting you ability to drive to high volumes.

[WelshOne]

ops:

Ok, not a great way introduce myself to the 800 series, schoolboy error alert!!

After reading the 1575 manual, it states the most likely cause of the amp clipping is a wiring issue or overheating of the amp (which I doubt!)

It was wiring ops:

In my excitement I had one of the rear 805S out of phase, and the biwire cable for the front L main was not configured naturally to the speaker, i.e. wired opposingly, red terminal to high f, black to low f, and so on.

I also recalibrated with an SPL meter, thinking the levels should be the same as before with the 600 series, BIG MISTAKE! They were way out!

Recalibrated = WHOLE NEW SYSTEM, phew! :E

What a difference, now I am hearing so much more, nuances, detail, and im sure the bass is better too?

The volume levels I am listening too to test right now are way more than normal/comfortable, so im pretty sure if any higher the amp will clip, and rightly so.

Sorry if I worried any 1575 owners.

Perhaps I need to brush up on my basics hey?

Thanks

David

[htsteve]

David,

I'm glad you figured it out, And that you are enjoying that great system.

I'm glad that you recalibrated. I'm not surprised that it made such a nice improvement.

[WelshOne]

Thanks again Steve! :T

[mjb]

The rear panel on Rotels multi-channel amps is usually quite cramped, and you have to watch the speaker plus/minus as they switch them. Glad you didn't break anything though.

[vernonl]

My makeshift arrangement until I can get my rack going. Money's a little tight after spending it on the components :roll:

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[Mark-n-b]

My makeshift arrangement until I can get my rack going. Money's a little tight after spending it on the components :roll:

Can you post one with the grills off? :T

[sunshdw]

Made some major upgrades to my system:
Sanus Euro Series audio rack
Rotel RLC1040
Rotel RC1082 Pre amp
Rotel RB1080 amp
Integra CDC3.4 6 disk (for the wife)
Denon DVD3910 SACD DVD CD
B&W 683 (wenge' finish) - replaced all internal wining with 12g transparent (huge improvment)
B&W 610XP (wenge' finish)
SOTA saphirre w/premire tone arm and madrigal carnegie cartridge
Transparent Music Wave Super speaker wire
Transparent Music Wave Super Bi-wire links
Transparent Music Link Super interconnects
Dedicated 20amp circut

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Thanks for checking it out!!!

[vernonl]

Can you post one with the grills off? :T

By popular demand lol

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I found this guy crawling all over my stuff while I was taking the photos tonight too :E

[sikoniko]

nice to see sound anchors. I had the for my N804's and love them for my N802's. I will probably use them with my next speakers too.

[jlr_1304]

Did you find a big improvment with the sound T anchor ?

[vernonl]

Did you find a big improvment with the sound T anchor ?

Definitely. The improvement from sitting on the spikes on carpet was quite noticable. It also removed some of the harshness that I was finding the highs on the 804S had in my setup.

[lvhung]

Impressive
:T

Made some major upgrades to my system:
Sanus Euro Series audio rack
Rotel RLC1040
Rotel RC1082 Pre amp
Rotel RB1080 amp
Integra CDC3.4 6 disk (for the wife)
Denon DVD3910 SACD DVD CD
B&W 683 (wenge' finish) - replaced all internal wining with 12g transparent (huge improvment)
B&W 610XP (wenge' finish)
SOTA saphirre w/premire tone arm and madrigal carnegie cartridge
Transparent Music Wave Super speaker wire
Transparent Music Wave Super Bi-wire links
Transparent Music Link Super interconnects
Dedicated 20amp circut

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Thanks for checking it out!!!

[Mark-n-b]

By popular demand lol

Thank you!

Is that the ASW750?

[JustinGN]

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Why the two Xbox 360s? And does the sound from the system improve once hooked into a nice Pre/Pro/AVR like that 15-series Rotel? I've found the DD streams from the 360 very hollow and harsh, particularly for music playback/streaming.

[vernonl]

Thank you!

Is that the ASW750?

Yes, it is. I would have gone the same colour as the mains, but I got it second hand for a steal and it's in as new condition. I just couldn't justify it new with this one available.

Why the two Xbox 360s? And does the sound from the system improve once hooked into a nice Pre/Pro/AVR like that 15-series Rotel? I've found the DD streams from the 360 very hollow and harsh, particularly for music playback/streaming.

One's my Live Xbox and the other is my "offline" Xbox :W

The sound from the 360 is great on a 15-series, although I haven't actually tried using it for music as the PS3 outputs music through HDMI for my SACD and DVD music so it primarily use it. I'll give the 360 a try if you like and let you know. Right now, I use the 360 for gaming and for watching HD shows through Media Center and that sounds decent for the most part.

[JustinGN]

One's my Live Xbox and the other is my "offline" Xbox :W

The sound from the 360 is great on a 15-series, although I haven't actually tried using it for music as the PS3 outputs music through HDMI for my SACD and DVD music so it primarily use it. I'll give the 360 a try if you like and let you know. Right now, I use the 360 for gaming and for watching HD shows through Media Center and that sounds decent for the most part.

Hey now, you're speaking to an owner of a previous generation "offline" Xbox . I'd wager it could be the decoding or amplification from my Denon that's creating the hollow sounding track from the 360, but I won't know for sure until it's replaced. And yeah, I use my PS3 for music and movies primarily as well, since I have much more flexibility with playback and format options.

Nice setup!

[mjb]

By popular demand lol

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I found this guy crawling all over my stuff while I was taking the photos tonight too :E

What's with the dangling wires? That looks like an accident waiting to happen :E You should remove them by loosening the posts and pulling the spades out.

[1oldguy]

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