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  • Lex
    Ultra Senior Member
    • Apr 2001
    • 27460

    #1

    A movie with a disturbing outcome I watched yesterday (spoilers)

    I don't know the name of this film right off. But let's start with the fact it is based on a true story.

    So, spoiler alert if anybody wants to watch a movie like this, not knowing the name, it involved hiking, a young couple, and on/off course day and night time hiking and camping. Stop here if you want to find the movie for yourself.

    They started out in a canoe, and canoed across a lake, when they got their, they pulled their canoe ashore, and the guy accidentally jammed his toe big time, I think on the canoe. He was actually hurt right there, a good time to turn around before starting this venture.

    But they get their gear ready, backpacks, and travel on. They had a light tent, food I guess for a couple of days, and water for about the same. Or maybe 1 day.

    After they setup camp for night one, what posessed him to want to go swimming in an almost stagnant looking pond is beyond me, but that's what they did. No real drama there.

    Later, he went to get some wood, and while he was gone a young guy shows up and is talking to his girlfriend, he had a load of fish he'd caught, and offers up a fish fry. The guy was a little jealous, that his girlfriend started talking to this guy not knowing him, but they eventually settle down and have a meal. There was a little tension between the two guys before the stranger pushes off, but he did leave.

    That night, there were sounds around camp, maybe a bear visitor, maybe not, that wasn't clear.

    So, they push off the next day hiking toward this "lake". Well, apparently, the guy violates hiking rule number 1, and takes them OFF trail, because he thinks he knows the way. He did OFF course, twice, and later admitted, the first time, he wasn't sure. After they'd become lost. It became apparent that his toe was not doing well, bleeding, he lost his toe nail. There was tension between them, because she didn't want to go to begin with, and he was oh so sure of himself, and then really screwed up. where he thought a lake was, was just an overlook of woods. they were lost. They began to try and backtrack, but weren't really sure where. He took her cell phone out of her backpack, if it could have worked, who knows. But it could have been a rescue beacon!

    This story gets sadder and sadder as time goes on, and his lead hiker mistakes start to add up. Injury, not enough water, not enough food, didn't have a map, and so on. But they trek on, trying to get out of this situation they had put themselves in.

    Well, finally, one night while camping, there was a disturbing loud noise, and it turned out to be a huge black bear. They already knew there was black bears in there, they'd seen a bed down location, and she fell in pooh before that. He left his ax outside the tent, they had nothing to even attempt to protect themselves with. The end result was, the bear took the man and killed him and was eating him. Finally, the woman, terrified, goes for her boyfriend's backpack, to retrieve a ring, because he had planned a proposal, they had discussed it along the way. She wanted the ring. She knew he was dead.

    Well, as you might expect, it turned into a race against time and a bear that might decide to track her, and her less than formidable off trail travel skills. She hit a tree with her head, she was bleeding from arm, head, disoriented, and dehydrated. She didn't look good. She was damn near shock.

    Finally, she got moving again, and made some time. Finally, she looked behind her as she heard something, and sure enough, the big bear was hot on her trail. She managed to get to the waterfall, which was one place they had looked for, she was at the head of it, and managed to drop down into some very rough straight up almost rocky terrain, right at edge of falls. She got part way down, enough to be away from bear for time being. Finally, she had to make a huge drop to try and get away. She must have broken her ankle. She wound up taking her boot off, and trying to splint it, and put the boot back on. Then she looks up and see's a huge buck, the buck was just watching her. She reached out in desperation. The buck turned and walked down the hill to what looked like a clearing. Finally, she was able to barely crawl/walk a little to go where the Buck went, and sure enough, it opened up right to the spot where the lake was, and her canoe. She managed with her every bit of strength to get the canoe turned upright, and pulled down to the water, and she got in it. She managed to pedal across the small lake to the parking lot. She got out, and fell flat, with some people at a distance. Finally, a girl looks up and see's her, and that's where it ended.

    The movie made me think, being in black bear country here. Of course, I don't think I would ever just take a woman and me tent hiking, even if I was younger, not without a large caliber pistol or rifle.

    If this story, gives perspective to just one person that has considered tent camping in bear/mountain lion/bore country without the experience necessary to hopefully protect you and your traveling companion. Then It was worth taking the time to tell it.

    Nature can be a relentless painful and killing BITCH. Remember that. He was not lucky. She was very VERY lucky to have made it out alive. Turns out it was known active bear country. They were not prepared with research, or their supplies. He also it seems tried to make decisions out of pride, to show what an expert he was. He wasn't. He had some knowledge, but he made some very basic mistakes. Lack of preparation and research, and going off trail, and not having a map. I do fault the park for not posting better warnings for visitors and campers . Luring them right into the bear's lair with camp here signs, Come on!!! Very sad outcome.

    The End-
    Doug
    "I'm out there Jerry, and I'm loving every minute of it!" - Kramer
  • Alaric
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    • Jan 2006
    • 4151

    #2
    The 2:00 mark gives a fine example of what can be done to a bear's noggin with a revolver. LOL


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    • Lex
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      • Apr 2001
      • 27460

      #3
      Oh, I have seen this video before. No way I would go hiking in the Smokies again without protection I was thinking of it today, it's like the Lion is the king of the jungle, well the Black bear in the smokies is king of the mountains. If they want you, they take you unless you are packing. I hiked once or twice by myself, really stupid. But I did stay on trail. More people around, tends to make the bears fall back. But there can always be a bad bear. It happens, and people die.
      Doug
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      • Alaric
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        • Jan 2006
        • 4151

        #4
        Yup. Out here the biggest problem is coyotes , and they're just vermin. Besides , a handful of 35 lb. dogs isn't much of a threat. Javelinas are vicious little mini pigs , and they come at you in numbers. A 9mm will stop one , it's the 5 behind it that are the issue. LOL. Of course , that doesn't include the meth heads. What a bunch of low life vermin they are. Makes me wish I hadn't left my .45s with a friend in OH. A .45 Colt will generally stop a dope fiend. Hell , it will throw the scrawny mutts in reverse with a quickness.

        I hear you about the mountains. I wouldn't play around bear country without , as the guy in the video said , "bear repellent".
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        • Lex
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          • Apr 2001
          • 27460

          #5
          I would not call a Diamond Back Rattler a non-issue...?

          mini pigs? Oh, we got full bore in the south. Bad a$$ pigs. I am not sure the ones in the Smokies are quite as large as some down in other southern states, but they are out there for sure.

          Bear just in the mountains is no longer exactly true. They venture out from the mountains, and have been seen and reported in the city numerous times the last few years. We had one reported in the next subdivision over a few months ago, no kidding! That's close to home bro. Of course, it will picture big trash cans as his feast for the most part, and be evasive of humans, unless you corner it, or it corners you...

          Around Gatlinburg, they most all use bear proof trash receptacles, or are supposed too. But here, we aren't even supposed to have bears, so you know, there are certainly accessable trash bins. Not at my house though. I take one small bag of actual trash, and the rest recyclables to the county drop a few miles from my house weekly or bi-weekly. I keep a can in garage that will hold a few bags of trash if need be. So, a bear is not going to find much outside my home other than a few acorns and hickory nuts at times.
          Doug
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          • aud19
            Twin Moderator Emeritus
            • Aug 2003
            • 16706

            #6
            Loads of Bears around greater Vancouver that frequently come out of the woods.

            When the wife was still living in a North Van basement suite a few years back, her landlord had a bear rummaging around the back of his pickup :lol:
            Jason

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            • Lex
              Ultra Senior Member
              • Apr 2001
              • 27460

              #7
              You all have blacks only or blacks and browns? I would guess the latter. browns can be more aggressive and meaner, however, there are no set rules. Blacks can be just as aggressive I think.
              Doug
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              • aud19
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                • Aug 2003
                • 16706

                #8
                Originally posted by Lex
                You all have blacks only or blacks and browns? I would guess the latter. browns can be more aggressive and meaner, however, there are no set rules. Blacks can be just as aggressive I think.
                British Columbia is prime bear watching territory. The province is home to the rare white Kermode (Spirit) bear, more than half of Canada’s grizzly bears, and a quarter of Canada’s black bears.
                This here is bear country :lol:
                Jason

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                • Lex
                  Ultra Senior Member
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 27460

                  #9
                  Keep an extra eye on the Griz, they are the reputed meanest bears out there, although a black can be just as bad. Griz tend to be more aggressive they say. Black tend to keep distance from humans here, but there are exceptions.
                  Doug
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                  • Alaric
                    Ultra Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 4151

                    #10
                    I was driving from OH to W Virginia several years ago and saw an interesting bear incident on the westbound side of the Pennsylvania Turnpike. There was a black bear sticking out of the grill of a Peterbilt. Well , the back half of a bear. I'm guessing the front half was firmly installed in the radiator since the back half was just sticking out , about three feet off the pavement. The truck looked confused as hell. You would have to have seen the tweaked fiberglass , headlights looking inward , surprised mouth in the grill with a bear sticking out of it. My daughter was all upset (she was 8 or so) about the poor bear but I couldn't stop laughing at the surprised truck. LMAO
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                    • bigburner
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                      • May 2005
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Lex
                      I don't know the name of this film right off. But let's start with the fact it is based on a true story.
                      Backcountry?

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                      • Lex
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 27460

                        #12
                        That sounds right... It came on Showtime I think before I knew it, and I just never checked it while on.
                        Doug
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                        • aud19
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                          • Aug 2003
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Lex
                          Keep an extra eye on the Griz, they are the reputed meanest bears out there, although a black can be just as bad. Griz tend to be more aggressive they say. Black tend to keep distance from humans here, but there are exceptions.
                          Yeah you definitely want to steer clear of Griz, they're FAR more likely to pursue. Black tend to ignore you or even back away on their own...unless you threaten them or get between cubs and a mom.

                          Griz can be FIERCELY territorial and don't generally back off until well after making their point (which if you're lucky only leads to you soiling yourself).

                          Saw a black mom and cubs about 40' away on a river bank while rafting a couple years back. They glanced up at us for a second and then basically ignored us as we floated by.
                          Jason

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                          • Lex
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                            • Apr 2001
                            • 27460

                            #14
                            Well, it is fortunate that MOST Black bears tend to be scared of interaction with humans. But this does assume one thing. That they are not hungry or even starving. A bear in distress, is a dangerous bear, regardless of species. Also, the size of the bear could come into play, a HUGE 600-800 pound bear burns a lot of energy. He has to have food, a few acorns is not going to get it! So, watch those largest ones especially much.

                            A few facts about our mountains. The Smoky mountains are estimated to have around 1800 Black bears in them at last count. That means about 2 per acre, as I recall. This means the chances of coming across a bear are pretty darn high. I've seen them on the trails while hiking once or twice, and seen them in Cades Cove many times. They come down to the Cove for food in the summer months a lot. Tourists think they are only there for photo opps. I've seen some stupid things go on believe me. As I saw one tourist move closer and closer to a cub, I spoke out to the entire group, I said, remember, bears are wild animals and are unpredictable! I'd already seen the Momma bear in the bush keeping a solitary eye out for her cub. He was on an eploring mission, to climb a tree, and try to get a nut or two, or something. It was an angled tree, and he could just walk up it pretty much. The Momma bear was VERY difficult to see, but I saw her. This cub would be released by her in the fall, on his own, he was a second year cub. They keep them a full year, plus a half season the next year. Then they are cut loose to fend for themselves.

                            Yeah, Griz do not have a hospitable personality at all they say. I have never seen a Griz, but read a plenty. But a black momma, if you come between her and her cubs, she will go nuts, and are likely to attack. Back away slowly, do not look the bear in the eyes, that is deemed a threat by the bear. Back away, and keep walking, do not run. Of course, if they are on your tail and won't back down, it may come to running, but you will likely lose that chase. The last stand may be turning toward the bear and putting your arms above your head as high as you can and make all sorts of ungodly noises, with a hope to intimidate him. But if you have a 44 magnum or any gun. Empty it. If you don't hit them, the noise may freak them out enough they leave quickly.

                            I won't hike again without protection, got to investigate federal park law before packing heat though, I don't think it is allowed there, but it is in State parks with proper permits Concealed law still applies I think, but I don't know about a rifle over shoulder or side mounted arm. Many questions.

                            A few Griz in Yosemite made their point last few years. Killed people. They usually find and put the bear down, but a little late for the folks they eat. There are also people injured or killed by Bison. Getting too close, one even tried to get a selfie with a Bison last year! Didn't turn out well.
                            Doug
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                            • wkhanna
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                              • Jan 2006
                              • 5674

                              #15
                              where i grew up, we always say:

                              "Sometimes you get bear, and then sometimes the bear gets you"
                              _


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                              • Alaric
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                                • Jan 2006
                                • 4151

                                #16
                                Bears weren't a problem where I grew up. We had dinosaurs. LOL
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