Millions are more interested in the GF trilogy. GF and GF Part 2 are #1 and #3 on IMDB's list of top 250 movies.
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Sorry dude, not to argue, but IMDB top 250 doesn't correlate to what people want on blu-ray the most. In a straight up blu-ray "wish list" Star Wars beats Godfather any day of the week. Not saying I'm not glad to see Godfather come out on blu-ray.
Are Shawshank Redemption and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest two others that you can't wait to get on blu-ray to show off your 1080p display and HD audio??-Chuck- Bottom
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What a funny question. I don't buy movies to "show off my 1080p display or HD audio". I buy movies because I enjoy watching them.Integrated 7.1 HT and Two-Channel System
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Originally posted by impala454Oh geez. Is that why you bought all the stuff in your avatar? So you could watch Shawshank w/surround sound? You're just arguing for the sake of arguing now. See ya.
In case you haven't noticed, a good HT system will reveal nuances in dialog, soundtrack and audio cues regardless of what you're watching. You don't have to demo a battle scene in LotR to get the most out of your HT system, unless maybe you only have your system to show off for friends on the weekend. That's not why I'm into the hobby.
Now that we've got that out of the way, I still think there are many impressive titles in the cue for BD release and the rollout is not worth criticizing.Integrated 7.1 HT and Two-Channel System
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Originally posted by GremalWhat a funny question. I don't buy movies to "show off my 1080p display or HD audio". I buy movies because I enjoy watching them.
Now, I do enjoy watching movies, but the entire draw of blu-ray and hd dvd was better picture and sound. What else was there? That's why I dove in, but i'm speaking for myself. What other reason is there to buy blu-ray other than the fact that it looks and sounds better than dvd? Liking movies is not enough. Most people like movies, but it's still only a select few with blu-ray players.
For the record, i've been a blu-ray supporter from day 1.A camera, passport, good music, good food and good company is all I need.- Bottom
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Originally posted by GremalIn case you haven't noticed, a good HT system will reveal nuances in dialog, soundtrack and audio cues regardless of what you're watching. You don't have to demo a battle scene in LotR to get the most out of your HT system, unless maybe you only have your system to show off for friends on the weekend. That's not why I'm into the hobby.
Originally posted by GremalDon't we spend thousand$ so our systems are optimized to show off the slimmest advantages in AQ and PQ?- Bottom
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Now, Ken, you bring up a good point. When the world switched from VHS to DVD, I'm sure we all pretty much replaced our entire video collection over time. I'm going to guess that none of us still have movies we watch on VHS , just because it's not worth it to replace that movie with DVD.
But with BD, now, although I'm buying a lot of movies that I like, I find that I'm only replacing my favorites, and buying NEW movies on BD. There's lots of mediocre movies, or good movies that are much older, in my DVD collection that it's not going to be worth it to me, to replace on BD, until the price comes WAY down, and I can pick them up in a bargain bin. Maybe less than $10. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking of "Real Genius", or maybe "Airplane". Good, older, funny movies, that I replaced from VHS on DVD at a semi-reasonable price. If those come out on BD, I won't be rushing to replace those again, until I walk through Wal-Mart and see them in a bargain bin for $9 or something.
In a different category of movie(s), I already bought the Godfather collection on DVD. Great movies, but I don't know that it's going to be worth it to me, to replace them on BD.CHRIS
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Originally posted by btf1980I'm not buying that. If that were the case, then DVD or hell even VHS would suffice.
Now, I do enjoy watching movies, but the entire draw of blu-ray and hd dvd was better picture and sound.
What other reason is there to buy blu-ray other than the fact that it looks and sounds better than dvd?
Liking movies is not enough.
True a good HT will. But didn't your HT already reveal those qualitys before Blue-ray?
Are you going to upgrade ALL of your DVD's to Blue-ray copies or will you be selective?
Your arguing over movie's that have multiple awards for their soundtracks and other areas comparing them to a movie so quiet you can hear a pin drop?
although I'm buying a lot of movies that I like, I find that I'm only replacing my favorites, and buying NEW movies on BD. There's lots of mediocre movies, or good movies that are much older, in my DVD collection that it's not going to be worth it to me, to replace on BD, until the price comes WAY down, and I can pick them up in a bargain bin.
In a different category of movie(s), I already bought the Godfather collection on DVD. Great movies, but I don't know that it's going to be worth it to me, to replace them on BD.Integrated 7.1 HT and Two-Channel System
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Originally posted by GremalNice shoot from the hip, duck and cover routine there!
Originally posted by GremalThis isn't about my gear. It's about whether BD's rollout warrants support or denigration, which was my beef all along.
Originally posted by GremalBut yeah, now that you question why I bought my gear I suppose I've gotta reply.
In case you haven't noticed, a good HT system will reveal nuances in dialog, soundtrack and audio cues regardless of what you're watching. You don't have to demo a battle scene in LotR to get the most out of your HT system,
Originally posted by Gremalunless maybe you only have your system to show off for friends on the weekend. That's not why I'm into the hobby.
Originally posted by GremalNow that we've got that out of the way, I still think there are many impressive titles in the cue for BD release and the rollout is not worth criticizing.
I think you take our criticism of the releases as some kind of strike against blu-ray. It really has nothing to do with blu-ray as a format, and more of a criticism of the studios themselves for being lazy on these releases. None of us are saying that sci-fi shoot em ups must be on blu-ray to validate the format. But movies like Star Wars (hello, Lucas pretty much invented high quality A/V in movies) represent the pinnacle of PQ & SQ, and are probably some of the most often watched movies in existence. I don't think it's too much to criticize Lucasfilm & Newline for not releasing their blockbusters (which revolutionized the industry) on blu-ray.-Chuck- Bottom
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Originally posted by GremalThose don't convey the nuances I was speaking of because they lack 1080p and high def audio.
Originally posted by GremalAnd you agree with impala that it takes a film like Star Wars or LotR to "show off" those advantages? That is an indefensible position.
Originally posted by GremalExactly the point I've been making. So why is it that some are not getting excited about the advantages of Blu-ray until Star Wars is announced by Lucasfilms.
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Originally posted by Chris DBut with BD, now, although I'm buying a lot of movies that I like, I find that I'm only replacing my favorites, and buying NEW movies on BD. There's lots of mediocre movies, or good movies that are much older, in my DVD collection that it's not going to be worth it to me, to replace on BD, until the price comes WAY down, and I can pick them up in a bargain bin. Maybe less than $10. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking of "Real Genius", or maybe "Airplane". Good, older, funny movies, that I replaced from VHS on DVD at a semi-reasonable price. If those come out on BD, I won't be rushing to replace those again, until I walk through Wal-Mart and see them in a bargain bin for $9 or something.
In a different category of movie(s), I already bought the Godfather collection on DVD. Great movies, but I don't know that it's going to be worth it to me, to replace them on BD.- Bottom
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Huge List of New Upcoming Disc Releases, Mostly Budget Releases Posted in Amazon Pre-orders, Studios, US Releases on June 25th, 2008 by Dave. We are certainly a bit shocked by the huge list of new titles listed at Amazon today, most of them from small distributors, and many are budget titles from Blu-ray Only.
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Originally posted by Ken49rZero, I own a Blu-ray player. At $30.00 a pop for Blue-ray that is almost equivalent to 2 movie tickets and a soda or 2 SACD's.B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720- Bottom
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Originally posted by btf1980Were you any less of a film lover before those nuances? What did you do 2 years ago before blu-ray or hd dvd? Watch movies in absolute disgust because you missed all the cues and nuances that weren't conveyed?
You seem to insinuate with your posts, or you have an aura that "showing off" is not the mindset of a HT enthusiast. If you truly believe that, half the gear in your signature would not even exist.
I'm pretty sure you don't need B&W 802D's to hear the nuances in dialog. That's pretty expensive talking right there.....lol.
Before bluray, people got excited when films like Star Wars, The Matrix and LOTR were announced on DVD. Why? Because those are movies people want to see. They are huge and their fans are legion. They are also hugely cinematic movies, with enveloping scores that are highly immersive.
... you'd have to be crazy if you can't see why more people would want Star Wars on blu-ray over something like Pride & Prejudice.
I remember reading somewhere that many people got into HT as a hobby because of Star Wars!! Nobody gets into HT as a hobby initially because of dialogue driven movies.
Gaming. I'm a pretty big time gamer.
I also don't think you can accurately compare SACD and blu-ray.
Blu-ray had a massive trojan horse by the name of the PS3. Gamers indirectly saved the format. Without the PS3, blu-ray would have most likely had the same fate as HD DVD.Integrated 7.1 HT and Two-Channel System
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Originally posted by GremalBD still has a ways to go before we can assume it will become a successful format, and when I see reactions to BD rollout as lukewarm as some of the responses here, it's a bit discouraging.-Chuck- Bottom
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Originally posted by impala454And of course those movies aren't the end all be all of cinema, I was just thinking of some examples of titles that would get me excited.Russ- Bottom
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Only the two ballets. I have also collected a few operas. Those I can watch more than once. Movies are a one night stand so I only rent them.
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Huh... hadn't heard of it, but sounds interesting. I think it's cool that some audio-only BD's are coming out now. Fully take advantage of the new lossless audio.CHRIS
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Originally posted by GremalKal, have you heard the Divertimenti Blu-ray/SACD release?
http://www.dvd4music.com/onlineshop/...l50sabd-1.html
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My problem with Blu is a couple of things, first, still new and still WAY too expensive for what you are getting. I know they "claim" all the extras and the better SQ/PQ is "supposed" to be worth it...but is it really? I'm not saying that I don't love HD, heck, I want the next thing because I still see the limitations in current HD.
Secondly, It's not worth enough to "upgrade" most of my DVD collection (which is at 1K of them)...that's just too much money to spend when I could spend it elsewhere and get more enjoyment for the money (when I already have the movies).
Just because 80% of the movies that I have aren't on Blu, doesn't mean I dislike them anymore than if they were on Blu. Plus a good portion of those really don't need a Blu transfer since they are pre 2000 releases that don't get the real benefit of the nice 1080p or Lossless sound. 2000 is just a general year, not saying specifically that's the year that transfers are worthwhile.
So reguardless, with Blu-Ray players still playing DVDs and upconverting them... you get decent enough quality that it's not worth spending the money for the movie unless it's one you really enjoy.
I also think Blu-Ray could suffer here due to the fact of the environmental impact of making the discs. Especially with the whole environmental movement that seems to be starting... I think we're close to the edge of something else that can store a lot more information (or even stream it to you)...so that could be a hard hit for Blu.Digital Audio makes me Happy.
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Boy, that's a lackluster list mostly. A few of interest, but must buys, not hardly.
I think I got U 571 in HD-DVD, the Hunt for Red October maybe. Not to much there that really gets my motor running. But I'll cast a vote soon...
I been about as happy hunting the local used selection occasionally. Last week, I picked up a few used including Gangs of New York, Juno, Mr and Mrs Smith. All said, about half off new pricing.Doug
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Yeah, previously viewed are starting to pop up in my area, too. I did break down a bit and will replace standard dvds Batman Begins and The Perfect Storm with Blu, but like Pewter, I have over 1K standard titles and can't afford, nor would I bothber, to replace them. But there are titles, like The Perfect Storm and Batman Begins, and a few more that I feel will benefit from the HD version.- Bottom
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I would only replace the very best, or cheap lol.
Examples are the used copy of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. I haven't viewed in a while. I'll likely give the standard copy to my daughter who hounds me about free DVDs now and again. She loves special offers, free, lol.
I actually went back and started viewing some older movies, comparing upconversion among players and projectors, plenty viewable.
I did duplicate Gangs of NY, purchased USED for 15 bucks!!! But what an epic tale that is, and such masterful sets involved, a true HD GEM and well worth a rebuy!Doug
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Originally posted by LexI would only replace the very best, or cheap lol.
So far here is what I got at $15 or less
- the 5th Element (Remastered), Stargate, Evolution, Fantastic Four, Fantastic Four the Silver Surfer, The Transporter 2
- Dracula (Gary Oldman & Anthony Hopkins)
- The day after tomorrow
- Black Hawk down
- Terminator 2
- V for Vendeta
- Cars
- Robinson Family
Here is what I am waiting for to come out and drop in price
-IronMan
- Gladiator
- King Kong
- The Incredibles
- Armageddon
- The Matrix
- The Lord of the Rings
- Transformers
- Dardevil
- 300
- Shoot Em Up
- Hitman
- 10,000 BC
- Live Free or Die Hard (the R version)
- Master and Commander
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Originally posted by PewterTAMy problem with Blu is a couple of things, first, still new and still WAY too expensive for what you are getting. I know they "claim" all the extras and the better SQ/PQ is "supposed" to be worth it...but is it really? I'm not saying that I don't love HD, heck, I want the next thing because I still see the limitations in current HD.
Secondly, It's not worth enough to "upgrade" most of my DVD collection (which is at 1K of them)...that's just too much money to spend when I could spend it elsewhere and get more enjoyment for the money (when I already have the movies).
Just because 80% of the movies that I have aren't on Blu, doesn't mean I dislike them anymore than if they were on Blu. Plus a good portion of those really don't need a Blu transfer since they are pre 2000 releases that don't get the real benefit of the nice 1080p or Lossless sound. 2000 is just a general year, not saying specifically that's the year that transfers are worthwhile.
So reguardless, with Blu-Ray players still playing DVDs and upconverting them... you get decent enough quality that it's not worth spending the money for the movie unless it's one you really enjoy.
I also think Blu-Ray could suffer here due to the fact of the environmental impact of making the discs. Especially with the whole environmental movement that seems to be starting... I think we're close to the edge of something else that can store a lot more information (or even stream it to you)...so that could be a hard hit for Blu.
I understand cost concerns regarding getting a player, but less so for movies. When I first got a DVD player, I was a very picky purchaser (owing to high cost DVDs--adjusted for inflation, at least as, if not more, expensive than current BDs) and relied on rentals for quite some time. Even used discs were expensive (I picked up a used copy of Thirteen Days--a film I use in several classes--about six months after it had been released to my local video store and it cost 20$ [sticker is still on the cover]). And it was quite a while before I upgraded more than one or two VHS copies of films I have (I still haven't done more than about 20%, and I suspect a similar ratio for BD "upgrades" will apply).
Everyone is free, of course, to not get into BD (player or discs). I'm just trying to understand the rationale for some of the objections I encounter every once in a while.- Bottom
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Iron Man is good, a couple of the Jack Ryan movies are good. But if you want to see one of the most powerful films ever made, get The Counterfeiters on Blu-ray August 5.Integrated 7.1 HT and Two-Channel System
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Yah, that's the one. Karl Marcovicz, he guy who plays Sally (king of the counterfeiters) Sorowitsch does an incredible job.Integrated 7.1 HT and Two-Channel System
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