Shanling CDT100 first impressions

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  • DrJRapp
    Super Senior Member
    • Apr 2003
    • 1204

    Shanling CDT100 first impressions

    Untill very recently my preferences in audio gear have always leaned on the conservative side. My system is infused with equipment names known mostly for their high bang for the buck; Rotel, Klipsch, Cambridge Audio, Denon...etc. Well that appears to be changing.

    Back in January I saw a photo of the Shanling CDT100 CD player and was immediatly struck by the appearance of the unit. Truely a piece of engineering artwork in my opinion. However, it's price at approximatly $1800 street was just a bit too much for me to allow myself to spend.

    Well, last week my wife and I took a brief vacation in Las Vegas. It was our first time ever there. Well, we didn't stike it rich in the casinos, HOWEVER, we didn't loose or spend as much of the "fun money" we had designated, so to celebrate that fact I ordered the Shanling upon our return, spending the balance of our vacation funds. The unit arrived today.

    The photographs of this thing can't begin to portray how beautiful it really is. But, beauty is as beauty does...and it performs well. While I am saving a full review until she has a few hours to burn in, my initial impressions are very favorable. It's strength seems to be very warm detailed midrange without being dark. This, I believe,is due mainly to the tube output stages. The detail is amazing. And it's a real kick to be able to select either tube, solid state, or solid state upscaled output along with digital out to use it as just a transport for my pre-pro to decode. It's like having 4 different machines, because I get four different sound characters. More later...back to listening!
    Last edited by DrJRapp; 25 May 2005, 23:37 Wednesday.
    Jerry Rappaport
  • Lex
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Apr 2001
    • 27461

    #2
    If it's the one I am thinking of, it is a neat player. I saw it early on before there was much of a US distribution setup. That was a tube model, I assume...

    Congrats on the new toy Jerry and enjoy.

    Lex
    Doug
    "I'm out there Jerry, and I'm loving every minute of it!" - Kramer

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    • nicholtl
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2003
      • 539

      #3
      Ahoy there, Jerry! Seen you around on the Klipsch forums, but I didn't realize you were a regular round these parts too. Anyway, just wanted to share my congratulations, and a hint of jealousy, for your new (and truly beautiful) acquisition.

      I purchased my latest CD player, a Classe CDP-10 a little while back, and only a week or so after doing so, read about your Shanling tubed player. I kicked myself for not spotting it earlier, as it would have made my decision much harder. I'm very happy with my unit, but still wanted very much to try out a tubed-output CD player.

      Anyway, congrats again, and enjoy!

      PS - I can't believe that was you AND your wife's first time to Sin City ever! I guess that means you guys are good, wholesome people. Hell, me and a bunch of my frat bros are heading down there in a few days for Memorial Weekend! Don't mean to sound like a dog, but one of our first stops are the outskirts aka The Bunny Ranch...

      ...hey, what happens in Vegas...oh, you know the rest.

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      • DrJRapp
        Super Senior Member
        • Apr 2003
        • 1204

        #4
        Stays there.......

        The thing that finally pushed me over the top towards the Shanling was when I upgraded my HT system to DeanGs moded XOvers a month ago. With the Mods my system became so competent in 2 channel I wanted to see just how far it could be taken. This of course dictated a new 2 channel source. Previously I was using a Sony 300 disk changer for CDs and a Denon 2900 universal.

        The bulk of my 2 channel listening was previously done in my library where I have Klipsch Chorus IIs and a Cambridge Audio integrated and 640CD player (great DACs). That system has been all but abandoned since DeanGs XOvers arrived.

        My "theater" setup is in my Family room and the library is immediatly adjacent. Very soon I will be moving the theater equipment to a dedicated room "to be built", and then the 2 channel CIIs will move to the FR where the Shanling will be used to drive an amp directly sans preamp, (which is one of it's capabilities).

        Later last night after about 3 to 4 hours play the Shanling started to open up quite a bit dynamically. It was very tight at first. The character of the tube output is very interesting, and I think it compliments the RF7s extremely well. And, did I mention, it's a thrill to look at???...lol

        More to follow.
        Jerry Rappaport

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        • DrJRapp
          Super Senior Member
          • Apr 2003
          • 1204

          #5
          I've got the T100 set up through 2 different inputs in my pre-pro now. One for the tube analog and the other digital bitstream where I let the DACs in the pre-pro decode. This allows me to toggel back and forth and actually A/B the same machine with two distinctly different kinds of output and sound character..neat.

          As I write this I have some David Sanborn spinning and the sound of his sax through the tube analog outputs is absolutely out of this world!
          Jerry Rappaport

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          • Patt
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2005
            • 922

            #6
            Those are the most unusual looking players arent they.....

            I've read using a tube somewhere in the system makes a difference whether it is a cd pre or an amp.....
            I'm looking forward to hearing more about it from you .
            ......Pat

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            • NonSense
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 138

              #7
              Great player! I love the CDT100C with the brushed aluminum chassis. I auditioned this unit several times while researching a new 2CH system I have been slowly putting together.

              I did find however, after extened listening, that I prefered the upsampling off. To me, it seemed to produce a more natural sound, or at least the type of sound I prefered with the type of music I was auditioning. I also found that I prefered the tube stage output, especially after the units had been tweeked. (I was able to listen to a few different models with differing levels of modifications) This was to be expected, as the draw to this unit, aside from it's great looks, is the tube stage output.

              The building blocks for this unit are outstanding for the price point. PCM1704 DACs with the PMD200 filtering. Some great players have used this combination. It also offers a great platform for many levels of tweeking for the DIYers. Simple stuff like swaping the stock tubes for WE-396A's or changing out the op-amps to the popular OPA627's. They just happen to be socketed. And the list goes on.


              Are the gears turning yet! Couldn't resist.

              Enjoy, plenty of time for tweeking later.
              Bruce

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              • DrJRapp
                Super Senior Member
                • Apr 2003
                • 1204

                #8
                Just getting this player has been such a monumental upgrade from what I had previously that I'll save the tweaks for later. You must understand that this is a guy who until recently always believed that a CD player really didn't add (or delete) any specific sound of it's own. I only rediscovered analog this past December when I purchased my 2 ch setup (Cambridge Audio Azur 640C..quite nice for the price).

                I have found I also prefer the tube output with upsampling off.
                Jerry Rappaport

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                • gostan
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2003
                  • 445

                  #9
                  Jerry:

                  Any updated opinions/comments about the Shanling cd player after 4 months of listening bliss. I am considering this unit, after my two attempts with the Jolida player did not work out.

                  Stan
                  Stan

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                  • DrJRapp
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 1204

                    #10
                    OK

                    After 4 months the honeymoon still isn't over. I've had some fun tube rolling (WE 396A) and the Shanling continues to be my first recommendation for anyone wishing to have a super high quality CD player. The CDT100 is now available in more conventional format (regular looking player) with identical guts as the CDT100 for about $600 it's the CDT 10.

                    I would still go for the 100; it's looks are just ...well...out of this world!
                    Jerry Rappaport

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                    • PewterTA
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 2901

                      #11
                      See that's why I like Shanling, the CD-T100 and 300... just looks soooo different.

                      Shanling definitely makes some cool stuff!

                      Plus the sound is amazing from their units. The CD-T300 is pure heaven! Must be those nice Burr-Brown PCM1704K DACs.
                      Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                      -Dan

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                      • gostan
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2003
                        • 445

                        #12
                        I demoed the Shanling CD T100 and the 200 units along with the Jolida, the Cary and the Krell SACD, the Classe 100CD and the McCormack universal player. The Shanling is certainly a wonderful looking unit and fun to insert the cd and put the cd clamp on it, but I have to say that while the Shanling had a nice sound, for my ears, the Jolida had the similar warmth, but was more dynamic. The Shanling is just a little too soft for my ears. IMO, the Cary would be the superior unit for my listening tastes.
                        Stan

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                        • NMyTree
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2004
                          • 520

                          #13
                          I agree the Shanling CD T100 is a beautiful piece of audio art, aesthetically.

                          In the set up I auditioned and to my ears, the CD T100 sounded bland. Void of dynamics, emotion and richness.

                          But as all things in this hobby, there could have been many contributing factors that caused it to sound this way.

                          I simply wasn't impressed with it. BUt I know quite a few people who love this player.
                          Tony

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                          • gostan
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2003
                            • 445

                            #14
                            Tony:

                            Did you ever receive your Vincent tube cd player?

                            Stan
                            Stan

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                            • NMyTree
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2004
                              • 520

                              #15
                              Yes I did, gostan.

                              Still finishing up work on the listening rooms. I was hoping it would have been finished this week, but it's taking a wee-bit longer.

                              I'll post my thoughts and some pics when I have everything set up and give the S6 some playing time.
                              Tony

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                              • DrJRapp
                                Super Senior Member
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 1204

                                #16
                                Originally posted by NMyTree
                                I agree the Shanling CD T100 is a beautiful piece of audio art, aesthetically.

                                In the set up I auditioned and to my ears, the CD T100 sounded bland. Void of dynamics, emotion and richness.

                                But as all things in this hobby, there could have been many contributing factors that caused it to sound this way.

                                I simply wasn't impressed with it. BUt I know quite a few people who love this player.
                                The audio setup could have had a lot to do with it. Which way were you listening; thru the DACs on the 100 or the DACs on a pre-pro. I find that with the T100 playing thru it's own DACs with tube analog output into my Rotel 1098 pre-pro on bypass, the dynamics are just about perfect. WE396A output tubes flatten them a bit (by making the midrange seem fuller) as does use of the 24/96 upscaling feature. When played thru the RSP 1098s DACs (ie: using the Shanling purely as a transport) the dynamics are less dramatic.

                                The supporting equipment and speakers could have had a lot to do with that also. Can you remember what the T100 was playing on?
                                Jerry Rappaport

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