HDMI to SFDIF?

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  • Wayman
    Member
    • May 2014
    • 89

    HDMI to SFDIF?

    Hi,

    My universal disk player doesn't have a digital out.

    Is there a product that will strip out cd audio from the HDMI output from my universal player so I can use the digital in an my DAC?

    I have seen some very inexpensive HDMI switchers with digital but will they mess up the signal?

    Thanks, Wayne
  • Kevin D
    Ultra Senior Member
    • Oct 2002
    • 4601

    #2
    Yes, there's several out there of varying quality. I've used a cheap one from Amazon with my Fire TV.

    The problem you run into is that all lot of them will force the player into stereo pcm output when inline and you will no longer get any multi channel sound from the unit via hdmi.

    You would need to make sure the one you get doesn't modify the edid on the hdmi port. Ie, decodes two channel pcm, but passes through everything else.

    That said, most of these are so cheap that I would be concerned any quality gained by the dac would be offset by using the converter.

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    • Wayman
      Member
      • May 2014
      • 89

      #3
      Thanks for the reply,

      I thought there were going to be quality issues.

      Time for plan B.

      Cheers, Wayne

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      • Wayman
        Member
        • May 2014
        • 89

        #4
        Hi,

        I wonder if this would be a good option for those of us lacking a USB dac?



        Cheers, Wayne

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        • wkhanna
          Grumpy Old Super Moderator Emeritus
          • Jan 2006
          • 5673

          #5
          a used Music Fidelity V-Link 2....if yo can find one.....not easy, however.

          or a new peachtree LINK
          _


          Bill

          Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob
          ....just an "ON" switch, Please!

          FinleyAudio

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          • JonMarsh
            Mad Max Moderator
            • Aug 2000
            • 15261

            #6
            Don't forget- NAD M51 has HDMI inputs and pass through.
            the AudioWorx
            Natalie P
            M8ta
            Modula Neo DCC
            Modula MT XE
            Modula Xtreme
            Isiris
            Wavecor Ardent

            SMJ
            Minerva Monitor
            Calliope
            Ardent D

            In Development...
            Isiris Mk II updates- in final test stage!
            Obi-Wan
            Saint-Saëns Symphonique/AKA SMJ-40
            Modula PWB
            Calliope CC Supreme
            Natalie P Ultra
            Natalie P Supreme
            Janus BP1 Sub


            Resistance is not futile, it is Volts divided by Amperes...
            Just ask Mr. Ohm....

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            • wkhanna
              Grumpy Old Super Moderator Emeritus
              • Jan 2006
              • 5673

              #7
              of course, the NAD!
              this provides a nice all-in-one solution.

              there is also THIS iFi unit for < $300

              not multi-channel either, but the Schiit is not all that bad, with reasonable entry-level pricing & it is USA manufactured.
              i use their USB card in my modified Gungnir and it performed slightly better than the Music Fidelity V-Link 2 which has been the gold standard in lower-cost USB converters for a V long time.
              _


              Bill

              Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob
              ....just an "ON" switch, Please!

              FinleyAudio

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              • Wayman
                Member
                • May 2014
                • 89

                #8
                Thanks for the suggestions!

                For me this is kind of like when my diet improved AFTER I started exercising. You know: to get the most out of it & not waste my time.

                After I built the Ardents I started to think a lot more seriously about the rest of the system.

                Cheers, Wayne

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                • Wayman
                  Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 89

                  #9
                  I have been looking at the M51. It is perfect for what I want.

                  For now though, I'm going to try to see how much improvement comes with least expensive solutions.


                  Cheers, Wayne

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                  • wkhanna
                    Grumpy Old Super Moderator Emeritus
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 5673

                    #10
                    the M51 may in fact end up saving you money in the long run.

                    you won't need a pre-amp.

                    and you wont spend hundreds of $ on entry-level DAC's only to discover your Ardents still are not performing anywhere near their capability.
                    _


                    Bill

                    Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob
                    ....just an "ON" switch, Please!

                    FinleyAudio

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                    • JonMarsh
                      Mad Max Moderator
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 15261

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Wayman
                      I have been looking at the M51. It is perfect for what I want.

                      For now though, I'm going to try to see how much improvement comes with least expensive solutions.


                      Cheers, Wayne
                      If you are interested in a like new M51 with low operating hours, and at a good price, PM me. I have way too much gear right now, and no opportunity to use it (with HDMI!) as I originally planned... Don't have a video setup of my own right now, just a 50" Sony flat panel in a room with no space to watch it!

                      Would rather keep it in the family than put it up on Audiogon.
                      the AudioWorx
                      Natalie P
                      M8ta
                      Modula Neo DCC
                      Modula MT XE
                      Modula Xtreme
                      Isiris
                      Wavecor Ardent

                      SMJ
                      Minerva Monitor
                      Calliope
                      Ardent D

                      In Development...
                      Isiris Mk II updates- in final test stage!
                      Obi-Wan
                      Saint-Saëns Symphonique/AKA SMJ-40
                      Modula PWB
                      Calliope CC Supreme
                      Natalie P Ultra
                      Natalie P Supreme
                      Janus BP1 Sub


                      Resistance is not futile, it is Volts divided by Amperes...
                      Just ask Mr. Ohm....

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                      • wkhanna
                        Grumpy Old Super Moderator Emeritus
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 5673

                        #12
                        Wayman,

                        if you do get the Maestro's M51, have him $ign it with a permanent marker on the underside of the chassis.:W
                        _


                        Bill

                        Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob
                        ....just an "ON" switch, Please!

                        FinleyAudio

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                        • aud19
                          Twin Moderator Emeritus
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 16706

                          #13
                          Had a similar issue last year:

                          Talk about pre-processors, amps, receivers, audio formats as they relate to home theater. This means anything 5-7 channel (or more) speaker setups. Small system integration issues. General discussion of audio video, A/V news, meets and events.


                          The Monoprice has been working for me until I recently replaced my Rotel (and the Monoprice switch) with a Marantz receiver with full HDMI capabilities.
                          Jason

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                          • Wayman
                            Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 89

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wkhanna
                            the M51 may in fact end up saving you money in the long run.

                            you won't need a pre-amp.

                            and you wont spend hundreds of $ on entry-level DAC's only to discover your Ardents still are not performing anywhere near their capability.
                            Well that makes sense! I purchased the used dac from my coworker after some lobbying on his part and before I really thought things thru.

                            Cheers, Wayne

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                            • Renron
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 749

                              #15
                              For future viewers of this thread;
                              The device is called a "HDMI Audio De-Embedder". I just looked it up yesterday. Some do provide 5.1 out. Prices vary and Amazon has quite a few.
                              Ron
                              Ardent TS

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