Alternative to Mundorf M-Resist bifilar resistor

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  • Audiophile100%
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2005
    • 128

    Alternative to Mundorf M-Resist bifilar resistor

    Hi,
    i'm searching an alternative to Mundorf M-Resist resistor.
    that's bifilar resistor technology
    could you suggest me same supplier ?

    does expotus uses this type of construction ?
    Special Resistor Specification Sheets



    thank you
  • JonMarsh
    Mad Max Moderator
    • Aug 2000
    • 15284

    #2
    Unfortunately there's no way to tell from the information in the links if they use bifilar non-inductive wound configurations.


    There aren't many good alternatives to the Mundorf M-Resist series; I use them pretty much exclusively, and a number of high end manufacturers (Magico, for example) use them too. Mills resistors are non-inductive wound, but only rated for 12W, not 20W.
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    • Audiophile100%
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2005
      • 128

      #3
      thank you jon.

      are these superior to m-restist ?
      Wirewound Resistors, Non-Magnetic, Non-Inductive, Axial Lead

      they have no inductance and no capacitance,
      the bifilar tech has capacitance element
      Last edited by Audiophile100%; 27 May 2014, 17:02 Tuesday.

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      • dsrviola
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 119

        #4
        Originally posted by Audiophile100%
        thank you jon.

        are these superior to m-restist ?
        Wirewound Resistors, Non-Magnetic, Non-Inductive, Axial Lead

        they have no inductance and no capacitance,
        the bifilar tech has capacitance element
        That looks like it's a Mills resistor. Mills is now part of Vishay. If you click on the MRA Datasheet link it comes up Vishay Mills.

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        • JonMarsh
          Mad Max Moderator
          • Aug 2000
          • 15284

          #5
          Vishay has some other film type resistors that are very low inductance, which I've used in amplifier applications. the thing for any resistor if you want to know what it does is look at it in detail on a network impedance analyzer like an HP 4192, which I use, and look at the ESL as well as determine the effective self resonance frequency due to parallel capacitance. At the impedances of speaker network resistors, the parallel C results in a self resonant frequency far, far above the operating range- ESL is usually more of a factor. But even then, it's often over emphasized considering what happens in the bandwidth up to 100 kHz. Just like wire coils versus foil coils- usually the best argument for foil coils is packing space and achievable DCR, not any inductance variation due to skin effect.

          One of the recurring questions that seems to be of interest to speaker builders is the matter of copper foil coils- does it make a difference, and is it worth the cost? Well, first off, I'll be the first one to say, "Well, try it, listen to them in your own projects....see what you think..." But some folks have
          the AudioWorx
          Natalie P
          M8ta
          Modula Neo DCC
          Modula MT XE
          Modula Xtreme
          Isiris
          Wavecor Ardent

          SMJ
          Minerva Monitor
          Calliope
          Ardent D

          In Development...
          Isiris Mk II updates- in final test stage!
          Obi-Wan
          Saint-Saëns Symphonique/AKA SMJ-40
          Modula PWB
          Calliope CC Supreme
          Natalie P Ultra
          Natalie P Supreme
          Janus BP1 Sub


          Resistance is not futile, it is Volts divided by Amperes...
          Just ask Mr. Ohm....

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          • Audiophile100%
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2005
            • 128

            #6
            modified messagge
            Last edited by Audiophile100%; 05 April 2017, 05:23 Wednesday.

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            • Audiophile100%
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2005
              • 128

              #7
              hi jon,
              how are you ?

              did you compared mundorf m-resist supreme vs jantzen mox ?

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