Statements Step by Step file for a newbie

[swd]

Hi guys,

i want to give a shot to the Statements and i was wondering if there is a step by step file with pictures somewhere?

Thanks!

[Jim Holtz]

Hi guys,

i want to give a shot to the Statements and i was wondering if there is a step by step file with pictures somewhere?

Thanks!

I don't think there's an official build guide but there are many threads here and in the Mission Accomplished forum that provide excellent documentation of Statements builds by dozens of members. Search and ye shall find.

Jim

[GPHammer]

You can also post specific questions as you build, there are enough members (myself included) who have built the statements and would be happy to follow your build and answer your questions.

Gregg

[impala454]

It's not a step by step, but my old build thread might help ya out: http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthr...ents-7-1-Build

Good luck!

[fschris]

I cant wait to build the mini statements my self. I will be watching your build!

[BeerParty]

Also not a step-by-step, but my build may be useful.

[john trials]

I have quite a bit of information in my build thread: http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthr...tatement-build

One thing that is not in the dimensioned prints is the need to cut reliefs in the mid tunnels so there is some clearance for the tweeters (post #2 in my build thread). I also found that using two pins (I used short pieces cut from a bicycle spoke) to mount the baffles (while building) was helpful. I could pin the baffles into place to make sure that everything was correct (cutouts, chamfers, crossover position, wiring, etc) before gluing, and the alignment of the baffles was repeatable and accurate each time I mounted them. I also kept the two baffle pieces (1/2" and 3/4" thick sections) separate until the final gluing. By keeping the baffles separate, I was able to make really deep/large chamfers behind the drivers.

Also, when making the crossovers, leave plenty of open space around each resistor (don't crowd them). Resistors need to dissipate heat, so open airflow is important.

And start working out. Statements are heavy, and a pain in the butt to move around.

[mikela]

Here's mine http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthr...tatement-Build

[swd]

Sounds like this forum will be a good help for me… I bought almost everything i need last week-end and i should start the build this week when i have time. I certainly have plenty of questions. Thanks for the help!

[swd]

Here i go, opening a beer and i'm ready to start cutting every pieces, there should be a lot of dust in the garage at the end!

I'm interested to know how the Statements sounds with Rock music?
Do all of you guys listened to classic/jazz music?

[swd]

I guess i will find out by myself for Rock music!

The cabinet are done, it was pretty easy and a lot of fun!
Time to do the baffle, which is the hardest part to do for me…
I need to build a jig to create circle…
What is the depth for the drivers?

I had a mdf sheet which was damage a bit, i didn't want to return it to the store so i used it anyway, can i use "gyproc plaster" (not sure how to say this in english) to patch the scratches?

[swd]

Well i readed somewhere that 1/4" deep with a seal is okay… I guess this is okay.

Couples of questions
1. if i install the flare in the back, do i need a 3X4 flare anyway, does the length is still important?
2. How do you call the little pieces of metal to screw the drivers in?
3. Which exact model/lenght/size of screws do i need to buy?

[Jim Holtz]

Well i readed somewhere that 1/4" deep with a seal is okay… I guess this is okay.

Couples of questions
1. if i install the flare in the back, do i need a 3X4 flare anyway, does the length is still important?
2. How do you call the little pieces of metal to screw the drivers in?
3. Which exact model/lenght/size of screws do i need to buy?

The reason no one responded is because we don't have a RS225 in front of us to measure the rim thickness. Measuring the diameter and the thickness of the driver for the recess/cutouts is part of the cabinet building process in DIY.

OK, here are the answers to your questions;

1. Yes, the port flares and length are identical whether its front, back or bottom ported. The length is determined by the driver and cabinet size.

2. I don't use hurricane nuts. They're great until one comes loose and you can't get the driver out. I run a 3/32" pilot hole for the screws and then just use screws to hold the drivers.

3. I use #8 x 1" screws from PE. I buy them by the 100's since they're cheap. You can also get them at any home store.

Jim

[swd]

thanks Jim.

i didn't have the RS225 in hands, that's why i asked.
i found the specs on the Dayton website.

[GPHammer]

As for rock music, that is essentially all I listen to, Pearl Jam, Van Halen, Ozzy, Zeppelin, Stones (Gimme Shelter was the first song I played on my full size statements). These speakers are truly amazing, good recordings sound incredible, bad recording sound like bad recordings, sorry, no way around that.
I have the Emotiva XPA-5, they play so loud and clear you will be amazed.

Gregg

[swd]

Good to hear that Gregg, i have an XPA-3, so i'm alright!

Thanks!
Pat

[swd]

One thing i didn't saw on any thread is someone who replaced the Erse Super Q 7.0mH 16 AWG 500W Inductor by something similar…
I can't order from Part Express here, to much freight/custom fees…
So i went to a store about an hour from here, they gave me a similar inductor, i'm really not into this, so i did trust them.
Almost every parts are similar to the list from PE (except for the drivers, which are the same),
but the part i'm not sure is the Erse Super Q which was replace by :
Manufacturer : SOLEN
Reference : S166.8
Summary : 6.8mH 16awg, 1.01ohms DCR, 25mm H x 102mm D.

If someone could confirm me that will work before i start assembling the crossover, that would be much appreciated….

Pat

[Jim Holtz]

One thing i didn't saw on any thread is someone who replaced the Erse Super Q 7.0mH 16 AWG 500W Inductor by something similar…
I can't order from Part Express here, to much freight/custom fees…
So i went to a store about an hour from here, they gave me a similar inductor, i'm really not into this, so i did trust them.
Almost every parts are similar to the list from PE (except for the drivers, which are the same),
but the part i'm not sure is the Erse Super Q which was replace by :
Manufacturer : SOLEN
Reference : S166.8
Summary : 6.8mH 16awg, 1.01ohms DCR, 25mm H x 102mm D.

If someone could confirm me that will work before i start assembling the crossover, that would be much appreciated….

Pat

My only concern is the DCR of your replacement. The Erse is .297 vs 1.01 of the replacement. That combined with the 7.0 vs 6.8 will alter the crossover. Curt would need to jump in to voice an opinion on the amount of impact. Shoot him an email for clarification.

Jim

[swd]

Since i'm now afraid that my parts are maybe not what i need, i think i will share my parts list, so if Curt have a chance, maybe he could give a look to it… ops:

[swd]

Parts list

[Curt C]

Pat,

Sorry, I never received your email. If it got lost in the mix please accept my apologies.

OK, I've just spent the last 15 min. trying to find a place in Canada that sells cored inductors, but my attempt was fruitless. Surely someone up their carries/makes them? –If not: Boy! I’ve got a niche market for some enterprising soul up in the Great White North.

Using the Solen inductor they supplied you would result in about a 2 dB drop in woofer response, which would be pretty audible, and result in unacceptable performance I’m afraid.

Solen does make a 10 ga. air core with a DCR acceptable for this project, but they are CAD$145.00 each. While they would work just fine, this thrifty Scot would have a very hard time justifying the expense.

If there is no Canadian cored inductor source, you may have to bite the bullet on this one and buy American. -Or get some transformer laminate and wind your own...

C

[swd]

Pat,

Sorry, I never received your email. If it got lost in the mix please accept my apologies.

OK, I've just spent the last 15 min. trying to find a place in Canada that sells cored inductors, but my attempt was fruitless. Surely someone up their carries/makes them? –If not: Boy! I’ve got a niche market for some enterprising soul up in the Great White North.

Using the Solen inductor they supplied you would result in about a 2 dB drop in woofer response, which would be pretty audible, and result in unacceptable performance I’m afraid.

Solen does make a 10 ga. air core with a DCR acceptable for this project, but they are CAD$145.00 each. While they would work just fine, this thrifty Scot would have a very hard time justifying the expense.

If there is no Canadian cored inductor source, you may have to bite the bullet on this one and buy American. -Or get some transformer laminate and wind your own...

C

thanks for the quick reply Curt!
I will order from PE, i have no other choice, i did search for this part in Canada without luck.
Could you confirm me that the other parts will be okay?

Once again, thank you

[GPHammer]

I am in the same boat as you, also a Canuck.
PE usually gives you 3 shipping options, I take the cheapest which includes all duties, taxes and freight. Overall I still think it is the best way to go and quick.

Gregg

[Curt C]

I've just went through the parts list Pat, and everything outside of that 6.8 mH air core looks fine. The minor value changes in the caps and resistors are just well within the margin of error, so will pose no issues, and the other inductors will also be acceptable. The Canadian source for the 7.0 cored inductor you found is spot on as well. I wish you well and a warm workshop as you continue your build.

-Speaking of warm, If you and your fellow Canadians would all simultaneously exhale and push that arctic air over the pole to Siberia, we here in the lower 48 would be ever so grateful!

C

[swd]

I've just went through the parts list Pat, and everything outside of that 6.8 mH air core looks fine. The minor value changes in the caps and resistors are just well within the margin of error, so will pose no issues, and the other inductors will also be acceptable. The Canadian source for the 7.0 cored inductor you found is spot on as well. I wish you well and a warm workshop as you continue your build.

-Speaking of warm, If you and your fellow Canadians would all simultaneously exhale and push that arctic air over the pole to Siberia, we here in the lower 48 would be ever so grateful!

C

Thanks again Curt!

BTW, it is minus 31 celcius here right now! :icecream:

[Curt C]

We are experiencing a heat wave today here on the wind blown Nebraska prairie. -7 C presently, and might even get up above freezing today.
arty:Whoo! Hoo! Break out the tee-shirts and flip flops!arty: