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  • efarstad
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Jun 2001
    • 2231

    Riser Modification

    Hey gang...I'm either crazy, bored, or just want to redo my "largest" goof on my theater contruction...that I did not build my riser "high" enough. I framed my riser out of 2x6's and put one layer of flooring down and carpet and pad of course...here's a picture:



    Having learned my lesson, I would have built a 10-12" riser...but such is life and not doing enough research when I first started construction compared to later on in the process.

    Anyway, what I'm thinking of doing now is to essentially build another smaller platform/riser that would go ontop of the existing one and still house the four theater seats. I'll probably build another 2x6 platform so that would bring me to about 12" that I originally should have done. I'll probably cover it in black carpet too...kinda look cool to have another riser, a black one, over a carpeted area that is red with a black border! 8)

    Plus, I may wire in a transducer into the new riser for some extra "shackin" back there! :P



    I could probably get that project licked in a weekend...we'll see! Just thought I'd share with you guys for your comments...I do know folks that come visit would appreciate the extra viewing heigth...even though I've positioned the seats so you can see between folks in the front row...this way everyone would have great views and noone would feel left out of th action!

    E





    The Norwegian A/V Nut!
    E-Cinema

    The Norwegian A/V Nut!
    E-Cinema
  • Jeff Aguilar
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2001
    • 126

    #2
    Erik,

    I think adding another 6 inches to that risor is a great idea! I would enjoy movies much more at your home if you did that. The last time Shari and I watched a movie there, I had to dodge your head to see the picture.

    I wouldn't do the bass shaker. You are crazy. That room is so small and you have 2 SVS subs!!! 8O 8O

    Jeff

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    • efarstad
      Moderator Emeritus
      • Jun 2001
      • 2231

      #3
      Thanks Jeff...I'll have you guys over again when she's "fixed" so my big noggin' isn't in your way! :P

      As for the transducer...I'd like to rattle/shake that riser more...call me crazy but the folks in the theater chairs don't shack anywhere near how the couch rattles...and let me tell you that couch shakes like crazy! :righton: Last Friday, during our LOTR "Extended Edition" movie night...my buddy on the couch to my right said "Oh my gosh...I can feel the hair on my head shaking!" We all cracked up...I've never heard that one, but it works for me! :twisted:

      E





      The Norwegian A/V Nut!
      E-Cinema

      The Norwegian A/V Nut!
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      • Burke Strickland
        Moderator
        • Sep 2001
        • 3161

        #4
        I think adding another 6 inches to that risor is a great idea!
        Didn't some woman say that in a porno flick? :>)

        The added elevation for your theater chairs makes a lot of sense. Your cinema palace has really shaped up nicely -- that will be the "crowning touch" (letting people see the screen). :>)

        As for the bass shakers, (BSs), I'm with Jeff on that one. I prefer NOT to have the earth move under my butt. The BSs can turn a movie into a carnival ride (especially if turned up so high that the hair on your head is shaking). :>) IF they are chair-specific rather than covering the platform as a whole, I would suggest installing them in such a way that each person can select whether to bounce with the bass or just let the SVSs liquify their organs from a distance. :>)

        If you do install them for the row as a whole, when guests come over, you might want to demo the effect first and then take a vote of the people seated there as to whether they want them turned on during the whole movie or not. Just my $0.02

        Burke

        What you DON'T say may be held against you...

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        • Sonnie Parker
          • Jan 2002
          • 2858

          #5
          Burke... if I knew I think I'd have to plead the 5th... 8)


          I was kinda wondering when you'd get around to this E. I remember one of the first suggestions you made to me was to be sure and make my riser high enough. You stated if you had it to do over you'd make yours higher. I guess you decided you now have it to do over. A good idea... coming from someone that you gave advice to.

          Now... it doesn't surprise me about your noggin! You should probably do something about that too! :P






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          • efarstad
            Moderator Emeritus
            • Jun 2001
            • 2231

            #6
            Thanks Burke...I knew I could count on someone making a "riser" comment! 8O LOL...let people see the screen!

            Plus, I too am not sold on the transducer...that's why I said "may" add one...the more I research the more I'm leaning NOT doing it...we'll see.

            Yea, Sonnie...I wouldn't be much of a help if I didn't practice what I preach huh?! Plus I think having the theater seats up on another riser will look kind cool! 8)

            About my noggin' well... :? I'm stuck with it! :P

            E





            The Norwegian A/V Nut!
            E-Cinema

            The Norwegian A/V Nut!
            E-Cinema

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            • Chris D
              Moderator Emeritus
              • Dec 2000
              • 16877

              #7
              Well, E, I think you know what I would recommend. First, if you want to raise your riser, that's completely up to you, but it would help with the visual angles. The question would be just how much it would hurt further headroom space with your ceiling and projector, as well as how it would look aesthetically. If you're comfortable with those two issues, then you're good.

              For the transducers, yes, I would recommend them. Your picture you put in is a Clark Synthesis transducer, which really is the cream of the crop for tactile transducers. That's really the way to go. Other than the super-cheap (and underpowered) Aura, it's probably the least expensive route to go, too, as they've just cut their prices in half permanently. I'm very happy with my decision to go with the Clarks cost-wise, and the amps I chose make everything relatively cost efficient. Going with Buttkickers, you'll need a LOT more power, so you'll end up paying more for other amplifiers.

              Clarks are very musical, functional, and more efficient, reproducing sound across the sound spectrum. Buttkickers are a little more of a novelty, doing bass shaking only.

              In any case, my Clark Synthesis chairs with transducers installed should be here within the next few weeks, (hopefully a Christmas present) so when they arrive I'll set them up and you can try them out in person. See for yourself!




              CHRIS
              Luke: "Hey, I'm not such a bad pilot myself, you know"
              CHRIS

              Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
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              • efarstad
                Moderator Emeritus
                • Jun 2001
                • 2231

                #8
                Thanks Chris! I'm pretty comfortable that whatever I do, I'll be able to make it look nice...I'm not raising the existing riser, rather I'm building "another platform" onto the existing one. So essentially it will look like a two tiered riser/platform. I can cover it in either the same red or I may cover it all black. Headroom is NOT a problem...I have 8'2" ceilings so I'm all good there.

                As for the transducer, I'm still in the air on that one...I keep going back and forth...I'd just need one of the Platinum Series and one AudioSource 5.3 amp to run it (since the platform would be no larger than 4'x8')...but we'll see...I've spoken with the Clark folks and they are really nice people.

                E





                The Norwegian A/V Nut!
                E-Cinema

                The Norwegian A/V Nut!
                E-Cinema

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                • Chris D
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 16877

                  #9
                  Here's my thread on the 5.3 amplifiers:


                  So far, I've had some FANTASTIC experiences with various companies and their customer service in my theater project, with Clark Synthesis, Audio Source, and Parasound being among the top. Clark's president, Richard, is one of the best guys you'll meet, and I highly recommend working with them. Let me know if you need any help there, E.

                  I'm sure you've though of it, but you could either put the transducer in the riser or in the seating itself. If you do it in the riser, if the riser's long enough the transducer will shake both the seating and your feet as they set on the riser floor. If you put them in the seating, you'll feel the power much more, but it will be isolated to your body. (pretty much, depending on whether you mechanically isolate the seats from the floor or not) It's just personal preference--I'm going with them in the seats. Since your rear seats are all connected, you could just put one behind the entire row, or one in the riser like you're talking about. Do you not want any in the front row seating, though?




                  CHRIS
                  Luke: "Hey, I'm not such a bad pilot myself, you know"
                  CHRIS

                  Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                  - Pleasantville

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                  • efarstad
                    Moderator Emeritus
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 2231

                    #10
                    I thought about attaching transducers to the seats but rather would like the experience of the riser shaking as well as the seats...rather than just the seats.

                    I don't need anything in the front row/couch...that baby shakes like a monster from just my subs. Don't get me wrong, the riser shakes too...I'm just thinking it might be nice to add a bit more bunch back there.

                    E





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                    E-Cinema

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