Trevor's new PC..TTP-Silver Stealth

[Trevor Schell]

BTW,,My socres running at a 333 FSB were

3DMark03 -10491
3DMark2001SE -15349

I see they have a new Benchmark available.
3DMark05

[Kevin P]

Have you run Memtest86 yet? Maybe your RAM can't handle the higher speeds for some reason.

[aud19]

Trev, are you running 400Mhz FSB? I've heard some issues with Mobo's running at 400 being VERY picky about the RAM used. Kev might be on to something there.

Jason

[Trevor Schell]

I have ran Memtest and everything was Ok.
Th eFSB is at 400mhz.
The Corsair Ram is the Pc3200 which runs at 400mhz stock
so it shouldn't be an issue.
I will change my FSB to 333mhz and see if that runs stable.

[Gordon Moore]

Trev....

Too many new things at once.

You are going to have to start slowly with known quantities.

You have a MB, chip and memory that should do 400 MHz stock.

Start slowly.

I would probably start with the main board.

Throw an old CPU and memory that has been stable for a while and set BIOS for that. Use a copy of Windows that follows that chip on an older Hard Drive (preferrably IDE). See how windows functions.

No blue screens?

great.

Mainboard is fine....move on to memory....

reset BIOS for new RAM (if necessary...set by SPD to be safe)

see how Windows performs...

Everything fine?

Now swap the CPU's

How's that working?

Now through the raptor's back in. It could very well be a bad setup using the onbaord SATA controller....you just never know.


Do a couple of days worth of testing for each component.

You'll never find the problem unless you systematically test each new component seperately.


Good luck bud, keep us posted.

[Trevor Schell]

I ran some tests with the PC3200 and I was crashing.
I put my old ram in PC2700.

It seems to be doing very well with my old ram.
No crashes and no problems so far with running benchmarks.
I also moved some cards around and rewired (just finished)
This has improved air flow. With Seti running my temp is at 44C
It had climbed to 53C before.
This is with PC 2700 (333mhz) running at 400mhz
and my old Barton 2500+ running at 3200+...:E
How cool is that!!
TrevorTech is on fire!!
Now if I can figure out how to fix the number pad on my keyboard..:scratchhead:

Bing,,You will need to help tune my PC,,Also figure out what is wrong
with the PC 3200 ram.:huh:

[Trevor Schell]

OK!!,
Here is an update on my PC's
I have my 3 boxes assembled.

PC#1
New CoolerMaster Wave Case
New Asus A7N8XE Deluxe 400FSB Rev2 MB
1 GIG Crucial 333mhz PC2700 OC'd to 400mhz Dual Channel
AMD XP 2500+ OC'd to XP3200+
Zalman CPU Heatsink
BFG Nvidea GeForce 6800 GT 256meg DDR Video Card
Temperature 50C..Stable

PC#2
Antec 1040 Server Case
Asus A7N8X Deluxe 333FSB Rev1.04 MB (updated Bios to 400FSB)
512 MB Corsair 400MHZ PC3200 Ram
AMD XP 3200+
Thermal Take Silent Boost Heatsink
Gainward Nvidea Geforce 4 Ti4600 128meg DDR Video Card
Temperature 45C..Stable

PC#3
Blue Dragon case with Window (Antec Clone)
Abit KG7 MB 266FSB
512 MB Crucial 266MHZ PC2100 Ram
AMD Athlon 1700+
Thermal Take Volcano Heatsink
Saphire ATI 9200 128meg Video Card
Other spare parts
Temperature unknown..Stable and insanely LOUD!!

Sooooo!!!
Everything seems to be stable.
I have taken out one stick of the Corsair PC3200 ram.
When I insert it into the MB I have blue screen crashes.
This is also when not using the Dual Channel configuration.
So,,it seems that my problem all this time was the stick
of ram is defective.

[Kevin P]

Looks like you did some switcheroos there Trev. When you get your replacement Corsair module, are you going to try it in the Stealth again, along with the 3200+?

Is that 50C temp idle or under load?

My Trouncer is currently at 38C/100F CPU, 26C/78F mobo, with SETI running. 40-42C CPU is typical on a mild day with SETI running.

[Trevor Schell]

Definately , I will put the PC 3200 memory into my Sliver stealth and run it in Dual channel.

50-52c is with Seti running.
Warm, but again everything is OC'd too.

[Trevor Schell]

3DMark03

10930

AMD 2500+OC'd to 3200+ (2.2ghz)
Geforce 6800 GT 386mhzCore 1000mhzMemory

Now to get her over the 11,000 point.. :B

[Trevor Schell]

3DMark03

11147


Name 11147 3DMark03

Description AMD XP2500+ OC'd to 3200+(2.2gz)
Geforce 6800 GT 386mhzCore 1000mhzMemory
Corsair PC3200 Memory 400mhz Cas2 1 gigabyte

Date 2004-10-10

User ttp@shaw.ca

3DMark Score 11147 3DMarks

CPU Score 743 CPUMarks

Compare URL » http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3229633

:-y :-y :-y

Notice I was using the Corsair ram.
I figured out the timing problem, thanks to the page Bing
had linked before for the Asus Deluxe MB.
I changed the timings from 7-3-3-2.5cas to 6-3-3-2cas
and it worked. I still have no idea what the numbers mean, I just
know I have the right settings according to the guide which was on the
website.
BingTech!! I bow to you!!
;x( ;x( ;x(

[Trevor Schell]

On HD Tach,,

Randon Access 7.6ms
Average read 64.3 MB/s
Burst speed 102.2MB/s

[Kevin P]

On HD Tach,,

Randon Access 7.6ms
Average read 64.3 MB/s
Burst speed 102.2MB/s

Wow, that's impressive... is that the Raptor? :-y

[Trevor Schell]

That right Kevin, That's the Raptor.

Here are some top scores to beat in terms of Benchmarking!!


[H]ardForum 3DMark2001 Top 10

1 - VO_Nuclear - 31,786
2 - James Earl Ray - 31,208
3 - SilverBack - 30,532
4 - Gundamit - 29,012
5 - VO_Paranoid - 28,934
6 - snakebiteuk35 - 28,848
7 - PureBooYah - 27,976
8 - Protoform-X - 27,868
9 - FragMagnet - 27,463
10 - Pancho - 27,050

[H]ardForum 3DMark03 Top 10

1 - FragMagnet - 15,263
2 - James Earl Ray - 15,010
3 - genen - 14,789
4 - SilverBack - 14,686
5 - VO_Nuclear - 14,140
6 - thelostrican - 13,952
7 - Grahxen - 13,820
8 - snakebiteuk35 - 13,661
9 - VO_Paranoid - 13,597
10 - btf - 13,517


[H]ardForum 3DMark05 Top 10

1 - James Earl Ray - 7,015
2 - FragMagnet - 6,879
3 - genen - 6,558
4 - PureBooYah - 6,338
5 - VO_Paranoid - 6,334
6 - thelostrican - 6,261
7 - Spree - 6,076
8 - ThisMonsterLives - 6,027
9 - boostieboy - 6,000
10 - haroldmeyer - 5,954

*** Submitted results are now required to be counted towards either Top 10 ***

[Trevor Schell]

DOOM3 Timedemo demo1
67.2 FPS

[Kevin P]

Hey Trevmeister of Doom3, is that Timedemo part of Doom3, or can it be downloaded separately?

[Trevor Schell]

Kevin,,It is part of Doom3
You have to hit CTRL-ALT then ~ to bring up
the demo screen once Doom3 has loaded.
Then you type in timedemo demo1 to run the test.
Once it is complete , you are given your FPS.
Very much like the Quake2 timedemo.

There is a Doom3 demo on line for download.
You could download that and then try the above.
It might work , let me know.

[Trevor Schell]

In terms of OverClocking,,
My AMD XP 2500+ cpu is stable at 2.25Ghz(XP3200+)
This is a FSB setting of 204mhzx2

[JOY DIVISION]

This one is the quietest that I have had in the last few years.

O/C is becoming an issue as well.
Seems I can't ramp up the Multiplier, the CPU does not respond.
This means it's locked. So O/C'ing with increasing the multiplier is out of the question.
Cranking up the V-core also seems to create Blue screen shut downs.

I figured how to increase the FSB to over 200mhz, however I can not boot
up when I do this,,Even if I change it by one increment to 201mhz.
So, Overclocking seems to be something I may not be able to do right now.

The first thing though is to get this PC running stable at stock speeds.
I am having difficulty as I can experience around 2-3 blue screen restarts per day. :M
Strangely enough, this PC is almost made up of parts from my previous PC.
*Asus A7n8x Deluxe Mobo
*Audigy sound card
*Dual 80gig Quantum Fireball HD
*Pioneer 16X DVD

The new stuff is the WaveMaster Case,
*AMD XP 3200+ processor.W/Zalman fan.
*1Gig PC 3200 Corsair Ram.
*Ge-Force 6800 GT 256 meg Vid card.

So , it may be the Ram or Video card that causing me the issues, or possibly
some instability in the MB going from 166FSB to 200FSB.

Anyways, I will run the mem tester and see what that does.
I will also, check for updated drivers to see if such exist.
I will report back the results later.
Once I do get things running without crashes, then I will install the
Raptor Drive.

Update your chipset drivers and adjust your memory timings, ASUS ussually has a fix for that, with the BIOS flashing it to the final version would help.Try to play a game with max settings and see if it crashes your system in the next 5 min and if it does then your chipset is the culprit or otherwise go to video settings and see if Smartgart is disabled, if so then chipset upgrade is needed.Check your timings they might be too agressive, and you might want to underclock your FSB a little.

[Trevor Schell]

Here is a pic of the innards..

[Kevin P]

Nice lookin' PC guts there Trev... how big is that rear case fan? Just trying to gauge the size of the Zalman.

[brucek]

Kev or Trev .. I have a quick question for you guys..

When you use SATA drives, do you use IDE-0 or IDE-1 to connect your DVD/CD drives? or does it matter... :roll:

brucek

[JOY DIVISION]

Kev or Trev .. I have a quick question for you guys..

When you use SATA drives, do you use IDE-0 or IDE-1 to connect your DVD/CD drives? or does it matter... :roll:

brucek

Yes just select [Auto] in your configuration. Besides you can use both to do multiple RAID with Parralel and Serial, just depends if your using a native OS or a legacy OS. l

[Kevin P]

If you have any PATA hard drives, connect them to IDE-0 and hook your CD/DVD drives to IDE-1. If you don't have any PATA drives, you can connect the opticals to IDE-0. That's how mine is set up since I have all SATA hard drives.

[brucek]

Thanks.........yeah I was planning on a SATA drive only with a couple DVD's....

The question popped in my head when I saw Trevors picture and it looked like one IDE bus was open........

[Trevor Schell]

FLIP!!!


The guys explained that well.:T
Let me know if you have any more questions..

Kevin,,It's a 80mm fan.:yesnod:

[Trevor Schell]

11393 3DMark03

I just downloaded and installed the new Nvidea drivers.
Plus 3DMark03 has been upgraded to build 350.

[Kevin P]

Nice :T I still rule in SETI and SuperPI though! :-y I can plow through a SETI unit in a little under 2:10 hours, on average.

[Trevor Schell]

Nice :T I still rule in SETI and SuperPI though! :-y I can plow through a SETI unit in a little under 2:10 hours, on average.

That is pretty good Kevin!
However graphics are way more exciting to watch.
You have to try it sometimes..once you do you will be hooked.
:rofl:

[Kevin P]

I can do graphics if I wanted to... only slightly lower scores than yours. I'm just not a gamer though, unless it's Pac-Man or Galaga, and those don't exactly require gigahertz of video and CPU processing...

[Trevor Schell]

Kevin,,
I always thought Pacman was a power hungry game.
That's a lot of dot's to process on the screen at once.
Actually , I really don't play a whole lot of games. I do like to fire
up demo's though, to sit back and enjoy the eye candy..:yesnod:

[boostdfd3s]

Trevor,
Thought id step in with some answers to your overclocking woe's

First off you bought a desktop XP and found out the hard way that its multi-locked. The XP mobiles are unlocked downwards so you can drop the multi and shoot up the FSB to get a better overall performing PC. I picked up an XP-M 2600+ for less than $100 and it does 2.6-2.8ghz on a regular air cooling :T

Second off the ASUS boards arent the greatest for overclockability. They are very stable boards with loads of on board features, but for overclocking the two best Socket A boards are the Abit NF7-S v2.0 or the DFI LanParty II. Both are great for OC'ing and have a LOT of support as far as modded BIOS'es which is a must to push the chip far.

That pc looks sharp though man, happy OC'ing
Hope this sheds a little more light on the subject!
-Zach

[Trevor Schell]

Thanks for the info Zach.
I had no idea of the processor.
Now I can buy my next one with
a higher level of education.
Except that would be a 64 Bit processor.

[Trevor Schell]

Just recently added an External HD by Western Digital, A Sony Dual Layer External DVD burner and a 17" Sumsung 712N LCD screen. :T

[Gordon Moore]

Abit NF7-S v2.0

That's mine, great board...extremely stable with good support I have yet to push it....I need to get the works in my new case and get my 120mm fans going, some arctic silver themal 5... Then it'll be time to have some fun :evil:

[Gordon Moore]

Wow Trev, you added some fun gear. :E

Dual layer would be nice but I find the media price/unit ain't quite there yet.

[Kevin P]

Nice... although my Phantom Stalker (aka Trevor Trouncer) was nice, it's now out of commission after my house fire. One of these days I'll open it up and see how salvageable it is. At the very least it'll need a new case, most likely it'll need a new P/S and fans, and worst case I'll be starting all over.

As long as the hard drives spin up and I can get my data off I'll be happy. And the Trevor Trouncer II will be even better than its predecessor! :B

[Lex]

I hope for the best there Kevin, but I wouldn't be overly optimistic, given the intense heat that must have been all around it. I hope I am wrong.

Doug

[Kevin P]

Fortunately the fire didn't really spread into the computer room. Items up high were melted, but I salvaged CDs that are still good from shelves located higher than the computers, so hopefully there was no heat damage to the computers themselves. It's just the heavy smoke damage that's an issue here.

[Lex]

Well, that sounds optimistic Kevin. Maybe your computer will be ok with a new case, well mostly! That would be nice seeing as how you just got it built practically.

Doug

[Trevor Schell]

Wow Trev, you added some fun gear. :E

Dual layer would be nice but I find the media price/unit ain't quite there yet.

I agree, But you know the prices will come down soon.

[Trevor Schell]

Nice... although my Phantom Stalker (aka Trevor Trouncer) was nice, it's now out of commission after my house fire. One of these days I'll open it up and see how salvageable it is. At the very least it'll need a new case, most likely it'll need a new P/S and fans, and worst case I'll be starting all over.

As long as the hard drives spin up and I can get my data off I'll be happy. And the Trevor Trouncer II will be even better than its predecessor! :B

Kevin,,I can't wait!!
I can imagine the Phantom Stalker will be Phenominal!! :E