New parts on order!

**Bing Fung** · 28 January 2002, 22:57 Monday

Cool!

Bing

**SiliGoose** · 28 January 2002, 23:25 Monday

Great stuff, Andrew.

The Thermoengine is a good heatsink but those 7k RPM fans are LOUD! I used a Thermoengine for quites some time...make sure you remove the factory TIM and use Artic Silver instead.

The Soltek is a good board. It's stable and very fast. Glad my issues didn't scare you away from it.

Let us know how the install goes!

-Sili

**Andrew Pratt** · 29 January 2002, 00:32 Tuesday

Cool Mats has been playing with the software

Goose the Thermo I got has a 5000 RPM fan on it so its not quite as loud as the 7K models.

**Jariten** · 29 January 2002, 00:51 Tuesday

Humm
why not look at heatsink/fan combos like the Alpha 8045, Taisol 900072CU Big and such...
the alpha uses a 80mm fan..you can put one that is slower than the 60mm turbines and have a very quiet PC though the airflow will be the same or greater?

I am personally using two Taisol with 80mm fans on my DUal Athlon XP system....keeps it cool =)

**Andrew Pratt** · 29 January 2002, 01:00 Tuesday

Good question...mainly becasue the site I ordered these parts from doesn't carry that model. Plus I figured I can always upgrade the fan later if I need to but a lot of people heaped praise on the thermo when coupled with a high CFS fan. Right now I have two PC's in a small room and they are quite loud so if I can reduce that noise at all it would be nice...that's the reason the Volcano 7 appealed to me with its temp regulated speed control.

**Bing Fung** · 29 January 2002, 01:42 Tuesday

Jariten's suggestion is a good one Andrew. I'm using a 92mm Sanyo Denki that turns at 3800 RPM, yet moves 55 CFm of air.

I had a Delta Black label 7000RPM fan that moved 38CFM of air, however it howeled way too loud for my likings.

Here is a Photo:

The black label is the smaller one.

Bing

**SiliGoose** · 29 January 2002, 07:13 Tuesday

Bing,

What is your temp difference in moving to the 92mm? I tried a jump from 60mm (delta) to 80mm and, while I get more CFM's the temps jumped 2 degrees.
I use the copper Swiftech MCXC370.

-Sili

**Bing Fung** · 29 January 2002, 09:52 Tuesday

There lies the crux Sili... My temps look to be about bit higher. With the 7000 RPM the CPU was around 36C, now with the 92mm Sanyo, it hovers around 38C. I can't hit as high as an overclock as well. With the 7000RpM i was able to attain 1460 Mhz from my 1200. With the sanyo it's hit and miss so I run at 1400 Mhz. I think this is due to the area of the sink that is blocked by the fan's motor.

What would be needed to make it surpass the 7000 in cooling would be one of those fan adapters

So I'm not able to OC as high, however my sanity is much better than it was with the 7000 RPm Black Label, as it measures a quiet 38 dB or so...

Bing

**Andrew Pratt** · 29 January 2002, 12:09 Tuesday

hmm I wonder how that cheap fan would do thats like $5 at NCIX (member price) I'll likely give the OEM one a go for now and see how it does...I can always move that one over to Glenda's machine if I feel the need more more cooling power...or strap on one of the case fans I have...or go and check out Princess Auto again for some more cheap server fans...great prices on stuff like that if you haven't checked them out lately Bing

**Jariten** · 29 January 2002, 18:32 Tuesday

Bing . Indeed
your 92mm fan covers most of the HSF with it's motor part -> less cooling of the HS.

I chose to use some 80mmDelta fans on my HeatSinks because the motor is smaller...and it runs at about 4000rpm
my temps are lower than when I used two screamers Delta black labels and the FOP38 heatsink...like it seems you are using

----> check out the Taisol products.
not sure you can find them in the US...

ah well

**Bing Fung** · 29 January 2002, 22:20 Tuesday

I was considering the purchase of the fan adapter above, however my system is stable and I'm happy until my next PC.

Bing

**SiliGoose** · 30 January 2002, 08:00 Wednesday

I even tried a dual fan set-up. I left my 7k fan on the heatsink, then I mounted my 60mm to 80mm fan adapter on top of the 60mm fan. I then mounted my high CFM (yet oh so quiet) 80mm Panaflo fan at the top of the adapter.

This set-up performed worse than either fan running by itself. I think the low air pressure created by the 80mm fan made the 60mm fan less effective (since it had less usable air to move).

It did, however, make for a much quieter set-up. That was quite a surprise.

-Sili

**SiliGoose** · 30 January 2002, 08:23 Wednesday

Damn.

After reading through this thread I decided to drop $70 on the big Swiftech (MCX462). I just couldn't be the only one without an 80mm fan

(this one spits out something like 60CFM over the HUGE coper heatsink).

Also got some Artic Silver 3 just to try.

-Sili

**Bing Fung** · 30 January 2002, 09:09 Wednesday

I have often thought the same thing with my T-Rex PIII, 4 fan, double stacked cooler. I contended that the stacked arrangement would actually require fine speed syncronization of the fans, otherwise the lower fan would be operating in a low pressure area or be driven by the upper fan, which would then lower air speed overall in the assembly....

Way to go on the huge fan Sili!! heheh Sounds like it will be one nice cooler.

Andrew, the 7000 Rpm will cool plenty, however it's the whine that the 60mm fan puts out at that speed.

Princess auto you say... I've not been there for a while and may have to go wander around

Thanks!

Bing

**Andrew Pratt** · 30 January 2002, 11:01 Wednesday

Bing the version of the cooler that I'm getting doesn't have the 7K RPM fan on it only the 5000RPM model so its not going to have the cooling capacity that the 7K model will...it will be a lot less noisy though

Actaully given that my PC sits next to Glenda's its not mine that makes the noise its her Celeron 300 thats OC'd to 450 that screams with all the fans I have in there

I'm going to have to work on her's soon as well...maybe I'll upgrade her's in spring to something a little more powerful.

**Trevor Schell** · 30 January 2002, 11:32 Wednesday

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**Jariten** · 30 January 2002, 18:11 Wednesday

Siligose

You should have looked at the PAL ALPHA 8045 ^_^;;;

**SiliGoose** · 30 January 2002, 20:50 Wednesday

Yea, it's cheaper but doesn't perform quite as well (very close though) and the Swifty is MUCH cooler looking :LOL:

-Sili

**Lex** · 30 January 2002, 23:14 Wednesday

I just use an old Reem fan on mine, the blades are 36". It does whir just a bit, but talk about cool! I look like the guy on that old Pioneer ad whenever I use that computer. :LOL: 8)

Lex

**SiliGoose** · 31 January 2002, 00:00 Thursday

LOL!
Lex, I hope that think isn't plugged into a motherboard header!

-Sili

New parts on order!

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