Video editing / compilation

[cobbpa]

Not completely sure if this belongs here, but it deals with computer knowledge, so I'll give it a go.

My humble HT setup is much more advanced in the sound category than it is video, so my motives for this might be different than those with nice displays, but the concept could be used to show off whatever aspects you desire!

Whenever I have someone ask, "What can your speakers do?" I have a few certain movie scenes I shuffle through. By shuffle I mean load DVD, get to the menu, select scene, watch scene, eject disc, repeat. I think it would be just great if I could copy these scenes to a single DVD-R, pop that disc in, and just watch / hear the glory. Maybe even tack on a few certain songs / sound clips and a menu to select. Maybe. But mostly, I'd like to be able to put about 20-30 minutes worth of uncompressed video with uncompressed (and in DTS, DD, etc) audio onto a DVD. Wouldn't it be nice to have the Master and Commander opening fight scene show off the lows, then the House of Flying Daggers Tree scene to show off surround then maybe a WOTW or LOTR scene for more bass..etc., etc. I think I make my point

And if possible, I'd like to do this with free software. Am I asking a lot? Maybe. I already have a couple of programs I am mildly familiar with that I use to straight copy DVDs, but my knowledge ends there. Any help here guys??

[Chris D]

cobbpa, I am SO with you. I'd love to make my own demo DVD, including all my reference material that I pull out every time when I really want to show people what my theater can do. Problem is, I would absolutely need it to be lossless information, and include DTS ES, DVD-A MLP, SACD, etc. Soon I'm sure I'll get into Blu-Ray and/or HD-DVD, and need that, too. That'd be the point of reference material - really showing perfect performance.

Wish I could do this!

[cobbpa]

I've started to do a little reading / work on it..just sort of dabbling with current programs I have. Using DVDShrink, I've cut out a few ISO images from DVDs. Uncompressed video & audio in DTS or DD. I haven't tried to put them onto a DVD-R yet. Hopefully I'll continue to have time to work at this in the coming weeks. It's already distracted me from a lot of studying tonight..

I'm not sure how DVD-A and SACD would work, hopefully someone with more knowledge there can chime in. I don't know yet how to include stereo recordings even.

I know there are some people here with knowledge...anyone...anyone?? ;-)


Edit: I am getting close. I'm working on simple & free ways first. No success yet, but have encountered some avenues where $30 could get it done. I'll wait a while before doing that, I still have a couple more programs to try.

Edit #2: Well, no luck last night. I'm not even sure if the $30 software I was trying last night can do it. There are some things I still have yet to try that I can probably get to in the next few days. And still, if anyone else has any advice, I'm all ears. Getting a little frustrated at having several wasted DVD-Rs sitting around :roll: .

[aud19]

DVD shrink should work (unless you run in to DRM problems....mostly Sony discs) It has a feature that let's you select tracks and then edit how much of that track you actually want with a time/frame based slider bar. It also allows you to compile scenes from multiple discs but that could be tricky to keep track of if you have a LOT of discs! As for DVD-A/SACD....you could likely pull the DVD-Video information off the disk with DVD Shrink as well but the high-res tracks I think you're out of luck.

[cobbpa]

=aud19]DVD shrink should work It also allows you to compile scenes from multiple discs but that could be tricky to keep track of if you have a LOT of discs!=

I've been using DVD shrink to rip the files but did not know a bout compiling seperate scenes. Time to start playing...

EDIT:

Boo-yahh. :clap:
Thanks aud, it only took me a little clicking around to get it! Anyone interested, download DVD Shrink & DVD Decrypter. I'll get around to posting a short how-to later tonight. This is probably pretty basic to some people. It isn't hard at all! There may even be an easier way than I have found, but for now...
:dothewave:

[Kevin D]

DVD-shrink is definately easy. I've ripped the best of all the DTS demo discs I have and threw them all on one disc. I'd love to put a menu on there one day, but what's easy isn't free; and what's free isn't easy.

You can burn non-protectected DVD-A discs just fine, but there's not much out there that is. You can rip DVD-A discs using some illegal patches, but it only gives you 6 hi-res WAV files. You would have to re-code it in DTS to get it back on a disc (that itself needs a $2000 piece of software).

Kevin D.

[aud19]

You can burn non-protectected DVD-A discs just fine, but there's not much out there that is. You can rip DVD-A discs using some illegal patches, but it only gives you 6 hi-res WAV files. You would have to re-code it in DTS to get it back on a disc (that itself needs a $2000 piece of software).

Kevin D.

Or as I said....just rip the DVD-V track with DVD Shrink :lol:

I did that and converted the DD tracks to 2ch wav files and recorded to CD to I could listen to my DVD-A's in my car (Albiet at reduced resolution)

[cobbpa]

What do you do to rip to a dvd-r with DVD Shrink? Backup as iso image or save the video files to the disc?

[Kevin D]

DVD-shrink doesn't burn, so save as an ISO or leave it as files in the VIDEO folder. Use another program to burn the disc as DVD-Video.

Kevin D.

[cobbpa]

Alright, for Chris and any others who may be interested, here's the fairly simple way I have succeeded in this. I use DVD Shrink & DVD Decrypter.

1. Put the DVD you want to copy from in your computer's drive & open DVD Shrink. Click "Open Disc."

2. Uncheck all audio streams except for the one you want. Click "Re-author." Drag "Title 1" to the left pane. Click the button with opposing arrows (something like this |<--|
|-->| to allow you to set the start and end frames. I use the sliders then the arrow keys to target in where I want to start and end. Or, watch some of the movie with another program or on your DVD player and make note of the time to make finding spots easier.

3. Click Ok. This takes you back to the main screen. Click "Backup!". When the option screen comes up, save the files to the hard disk, and be sure you have the box checked to create audio & video TS folders. Choose a file to save under (mine is "Demo DVD") and create a folder for each individual clip. This will keep things simpler down the road. Click Ok, and let your computer do some ripping.

4. Eject disc, repeat for all DVD clips desired. If you're worried about compression, be sure to keep an eye on individual clip size & not let the total size be too big.

5. After getting all the clips ripped from your DVDs, open a blank slate of DVD Shrink. Click "Re-Author." In the right pane, navigate (or use the pull-down menu) to your compilation folder. Then choose the folder from the first clip, open the VIDEO_TS folder and drag "Title 1" into the left pane. Repeat for each clip.

6. After they are all in the left pane & in your desired order, click "Backup!" This time, choose "ISO Image File." Go ahead & save it in the compilation folder. Click Ok & let it roll.

7. Open DVD Decrypter once DVD Shrink is finished. Pop in a blank DVD-R. Hit the 'W' key (or click mode-->iso-->write). Under source, click the folder and find the ISO image DVD Shrink created. Then click the big button at the bottom of the window showing a hard drive to disc icon. Let it go, and there you have it.

Problems with this? I have only done it once, and what I've found--I can't index where a scene begins and ends, so it's hard to jump around clips. No menu obviously. Can't skip back to a scene once you're into another. You'd have to burn a clip twice with 2 different sound formats if you wanted to compare, say, DTS to the DD version. I know there are some other freeware programs that can fix the scene skip problems, but I haven't gotten to those yet. I'm just excited with this

I barely know how to do this, and I know some people can do it much better than I can, so I'm expecting suggestions / corrections / tips!

[Kevin D]

Or as I said....just rip the DVD-V track with DVD Shrink :lol:

Sure, if you wanted to go to all the trouble..

Kevin D.

[Chris D]

Wow, okay, looks like I can do some playing when I get home from my trip next week...

[aud19]

If you have Nero installed you can also set DVD Shrink to automatically start burning using Nero once it's finished processing, nice and hands free and automated

[technimac]

Source for Demo DVD's

Don't know if anyone has been here, but this site has 54 pages of demo DVD compilations including about 20-some-odd discs that are available via FTP server.
I have most of them and find that many are perfect for system demos. In particular, #2 is an all LFE disc, #5 is a good all 'round disc and some of the most recent ones are thematic (kids, sci-fi, etc.), while others include movie trailers.

Check it out - Look for Swithey's posts.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=575236&page=1&pp=30

HTH
Cheers, Bruce

[bigburner]

Alright, for Chris and any others who may be interested, here's the fairly simple way I have succeeded in this. I use DVD Shrink & DVD Decrypter.

1. Put the DVD you want to copy from in your computer's drive & open DVD Shrink. Click "Open Disc."

2. Uncheck all audio streams except for the one you want. Click "Re-author." Drag "Title 1" to the left pane. Click the button with opposing arrows (something like this |<--|
|-->| to allow you to set the start and end frames. I use the sliders then the arrow keys to target in where I want to start and end. Or, watch some of the movie with another program or on your DVD player and make note of the time to make finding spots easier.

3. Click Ok. This takes you back to the main screen. Click "Backup!". When the option screen comes up, save the files to the hard disk, and be sure you have the box checked to create audio & video TS folders. Choose a file to save under (mine is "Demo DVD") and create a folder for each individual clip. This will keep things simpler down the road. Click Ok, and let your computer do some ripping.

4. Eject disc, repeat for all DVD clips desired. If you're worried about compression, be sure to keep an eye on individual clip size & not let the total size be too big.

5. After getting all the clips ripped from your DVDs, open a blank slate of DVD Shrink. Click "Re-Author." In the right pane, navigate (or use the pull-down menu) to your compilation folder. Then choose the folder from the first clip, open the VIDEO_TS folder and drag "Title 1" into the left pane. Repeat for each clip.

6. After they are all in the left pane & in your desired order, click "Backup!" This time, choose "ISO Image File." Go ahead & save it in the compilation folder. Click Ok & let it roll.

7. Open DVD Decrypter once DVD Shrink is finished. Pop in a blank DVD-R. Hit the 'W' key (or click mode-->iso-->write). Under source, click the folder and find the ISO image DVD Shrink created. Then click the big button at the bottom of the window showing a hard drive to disc icon. Let it go, and there you have it.

Problems with this? I have only done it once, and what I've found--I can't index where a scene begins and ends, so it's hard to jump around clips. No menu obviously. Can't skip back to a scene once you're into another. You'd have to burn a clip twice with 2 different sound formats if you wanted to compare, say, DTS to the DD version. I know there are some other freeware programs that can fix the scene skip problems, but I haven't gotten to those yet. I'm just excited with this

I barely know how to do this, and I know some people can do it much better than I can, so I'm expecting suggestions / corrections / tips!

Good work cobbpa! I've been wondering for some time how to do this and you've saved me the effort. Thank you for taking the time to share it with us.

Nigel.

[cobbpa]

No problem...I've been working on renting & borrowing movies to get a nice clip collection...that AVS thread certainly gives a wealth of ideas

Also, here is a link from the AVS thread. I haven't tried it, but apparently the program can be downloaded on a trial basis. It seems it can add in menus & scene selection. Definitely cool!

[RobP]

Very interesting idea and thread, thanks for posting your ideas and procedures cobbpa. I wonder if I could use this to add an opening personalized trailer to all my DVDs in my changers? I have been thinking of something like this for quite awhile but have never really researched it.

[Kevin D]

Sure you could.. You could also remove all the menus, FBI logos, etc and just have the discs in the changer play an intro and the go straight to the movie.

Kevin D.