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    http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/21/kateeva-oled-tv-inkjet-printer

    Pretty sweet, it'd be nice to get some big OLED displays into mass production.

    Even though California startup Kateeva demonstrated it could print OLED displays way back in 2010, the printer it used was a prototype meant strictly for show and tell. The age of printed OLED TVs might finally be upon us however, as the company recently unveiled the YIELDJet, a machine it's calling the "world's first inkjet printer engineered from the ground up for OLED mass production." The machine is quite an impressive affair, comprising a shifting slab capable of handling glass or plastic sheets big enough for six 55-inch displays along with custom print heads designed to emit teeny tiny OLED pixels.Why is this a big deal? Due to the oxygen and moisture-hating nature of OLED ingredients, current OLED televisions are built with tricky vacuum evaporation and shadow masking techniques that are too inefficient and wasteful to be inexpensive. The YIELDJet, on the other hand, prints the LEDs in a pure nitrogen chamber to avoid those problems, plus it promises better film coating uniformity as well. This, Kateeva said, will hopefully result in OLED TVs that won't cost an arm and a leg yet still look stunning when hung on your living room wall. Combined with Sony and Panasonic's separate efforts to mass-produce the stellar-looking sets, we certainly hope that day comes sooner rather than later.
    -Chuck

  • #2
    That's interesting, pretty much just a big CNC Router but with a print head attached to it.

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    • #3
      Thank goodness...been waiting to hear positive news on OLED. It's been a slow go...

      Hopefully this is another reason Panasonic is vacating plasma. Hopefully affordable OLED is going to soon be a reality.
      Jason

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      • #4
        Saw a couple of competing OLED sets:

        Samsung's 105" 5,120 x 2,160 21:9 TV (not sure how I feel about the curved screen just yet)


        and LG's similar one:


        Didn't see prices, probably because they're insane
        -Chuck

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        • #5
          Huh... pretty cool.

          I think I'm actually going to make it to CES in a couple weeks for the first time. I'll keep an eye out there for new shtuff.
          CHRIS

          Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
          - Pleasantville

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          • #6
            Originally posted by impala454 View Post
            Saw a couple of competing OLED sets:
            Didn't see prices, probably because they're insane
            Those flagship sets are neat and all (I love the concept of curved screen myself). But where are the mass market sets...?:unsure: The continuing lack of viable sets for the masses is making me nervous. By the time I'm able to get a new set in a few years I damn well hope LCD is not my only remaining affordable choice :rant:

            Originally posted by Chris D View Post
            Huh... pretty cool.

            I think I'm actually going to make it to CES in a couple weeks for the first time. I'll keep an eye out there for new shtuff.
            Hopefully you can report back some 42"-65" sets that are somewhat within the realm of affordability due to be out this year...
            Jason

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            • #7
              Really it depends on your definition of affordable. I hate to say but I don't see anything changing for a while. So long as they can make money selling what they currently have, there's no incentive to bring in something new.
              -Chuck

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              • #8
                Originally posted by impala454 View Post
                Really it depends on your definition of affordable. I hate to say but I don't see anything changing for a while. So long as they can make money selling what they currently have, there's no incentive to bring in something new.
                Competition?
                Jason

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                • #9
                  Competition for what? Right now it seems like it's more of a LCD size competition. At least in the stores I've been in. It's very normal now to enter an electronics store and see 70-80" LCDs as the "top dog". There's no incentive for Joe Sixpack to walk in and buy a $10,000 80" OLED when he can buy a $3,000 80" LCD. Joe doesn't care, he'll still have the biggest TV in a block.

                  edit: Not to mention "thinness" :facepalm:

                  edit2: we need a :facepalm: smiley
                  -Chuck

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                  • #10
                    Well I think OLED will get big when it's cheap enough to make huge profits on. LCD profits are rather small now days, so there is definitely incentive to come out with something new.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by impala454 View Post
                      Competition for what? Right now it seems like it's more of a LCD size competition. At least in the stores I've been in. It's very normal now to enter an electronics store and see 70-80" LCDs as the "top dog". There's no incentive for Joe Sixpack to walk in and buy a $10,000 80" OLED when he can buy a $3,000 80" LCD. Joe doesn't care, he'll still have the biggest TV in a block.

                      edit: Not to mention "thinness" :facepalm:

                      edit2: we need a :facepalm: smiley
                      Oh I don't disagree. That's why I'm worried that OLED will just become the latest SED tech to die a slow death due to it's inability to remotely compete at J6P price level and never get the market penetration and hence volume manufacturing advantages needed for long term survival.

                      Competition of tech and spec sheets was what I was referring to FWIW. It still exists but it is most certainly secondary to the pricing issue.

                      I like the "Piccard" myself :lol:

                      Jason

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hdale85 View Post
                        Well I think OLED will get big when it's cheap enough to make huge profits on. LCD profits are rather small now days, so there is definitely incentive to come out with something new.
                        Sure there's always incentive to come out with something more profitable, but OLED isn't that (at least not yet). Though TVs / Displays have never been all that profitable in the first place.

                        Originally posted by aud19 View Post
                        I like the "Piccard" myself :lol:

                        :T
                        -Chuck

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                        • #13
                          Hence why I said when they get cheap enough Eventually LCD prices will drop so far that they won't be making much money at all.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hdale85 View Post
                            Hence why I said when they get cheap enough
                            How does that happen without market penetration/volume production though....? Chicken and egg problem
                            Jason

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                            • #15
                              Well there is still the whole "who's better" thing to push it. Sony, Panasonic, Samsung someone releases a line of OLED sets that are deemed the best ever and it drives their sales up on all their stuff. So there are still plenty of incentives.

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