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Killing analog tuners too! 8OOriginally posted by Shane Martin
My guess is they're going to concentrate on LCD/DLP until they get their SED off and running. They likely need the plant capacity for those techs.Jason- Bottom
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Toshiba's RPTV CRT's have had declining quality over the last 5-10 years unfortunately
Not basement reliability but certainly not the penthouse either.
I wonder how long the quality CRT sets from Hitachi/Mitsubishi will hang around....?Jason- Bottom
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Best buy I'd assume? that would explain alot.
The off axis viewing is bull because I sit off axis all the time. No hot spots.
They have been the benchmark for ages and STILL ARE. How many times digital reviews come in comparing to a CRT? It's because they are the benchmark.
They are vastly superior in terms of picture quality. Just email an ISF tech and ask.- Bottom
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Toshiba would have taken care of him anyway. He had a 1 yr warranty on it. IN his case he didn't need the extended warranty.i had a customer by a rear projection crt in october... already pooped on him and toshiba didnt have replacement parts.... good thing he had a warrenty through us
You learn alot about the TV industry when you work for a repair shop even for a short while.- Bottom
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No offense Peter but you really need to quit using the likely un-calibrated, cheap models under the flourescent lighting at whatever store you work at as your reference. IMO that is as far from a real life scenario as you can get and even farther from anything resembling a more optimal setup.Originally posted by peterSclearence at our store
my .02...
they have virtualy no off axis viewing and have hot spots with dirrect viewing also
i cannot phathom how these are in any way viewed as superior in any real life scenereo
Shane's correct, CRT's ARE the benchmark by which all other displays are measured. Read any review, talk to any ISF technician etc and you will hear the same thing. Just because something's newer doesn't make it better
In fact just the opposite. Think about it, CRT's have had around 50 years of research, tweaking, developement and perfecting behind them. The biggest reason CRT's are being phased out is not performance, it's simply because their not "sexy" enough
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:roll: wow you must shop at curcuit city then... those are the good ones :rofl: ;x(Originally posted by Shane MartinBest buy I'd assume? that would explain alot.
The off axis viewing is bull because I sit off axis all the time. No hot spots.
They have been the benchmark for ages and STILL ARE. How many times digital reviews come in comparing to a CRT? It's because they are the benchmark.
They are vastly superior in terms of picture quality. Just email an ISF tech and ask.- Bottom
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so as long as you dont mind the partical board bases, the average person needing a professional tunup constantly, more reflections and hotspots hence only viewable in dark rooms then sure its better 8OOriginally posted by aud19No offense Peter but you really need to quit using the likely un-calibrated, cheap models under the flourescent lighting at whatever store you work at as your reference. IMO that is as far from a real life scenario as you can get and even farther from anything resembling a more optimal setup.
Shane's correct, CRT's ARE the benchmark by which all other displays are measured. Read any review, talk to any ISF technician etc and you will hear the same thing. Just because something's newer doesn't make it better
In fact just the opposite. Think about it, CRT's have had around 50 years of research, tweaking, developement and perfecting behind them. The biggest reason CRT's are being phased out is not performance, it's simply because their not "sexy" enough 
sure we'll use the "one guy did a test and 480p looks like 720p from accross the street" so buy ed plasmas advice instead of the advice of someone who actualy looks at these dayly:rofl:
lets not forget "SED is the best!" (how many times have you guys seen it?)
dont wanna come off as rude but there just seems to be alot of opinions based on a logic i disagree with strongly :stupidpc:
would you buy a car driving it straight down the road at 35mph or are you going to see what it can do when pushed to the limits- Bottom
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that seems to be the trend with everything tube relatedOriginally posted by LexJust about every Tosh I've heard of in recent times tears up within 2 years. Maybe it's for the best that they stop making them.
there lcd's are pretty nice but my gut tells me the lower price relative to sony entails poorer reliability
infact sony has impressed me in that regard, the only return i have ever seen is an xbr that a customer had fall off the wall (broken corner and hdmi input dammaged) which he claimed "was like that when he bought it" 8O- Bottom
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I believe Shane's point was that none of the major chain stores offer anywhere close to the ideal setup for critiquing displays. Not your store in particularOriginally posted by peterS:roll: wow you must shop at curcuit city then... those are the good ones :rofl: ;x(
As such I believe we're also trying to point out that while you may be "someone who actualy looks at these dayly" that you're looking at them in the above mentioned poor environment, unclaibrated and from the sounds of it the cheaper and lower quality versions of them. I have no doubt the CRT's you've seen in those conditions wouldn't look overly impressive.
Having said that you seem to be completely unable to accept that just maybe people who have seen properly setup, quality sets over many years in this hobby AND professional ISF technicians (you do know of the ISF right?) and proffesional reviewers all agree that CRT's still offer the best PQ hands down.
Using your own analogy, the CRT's you're looking at is a bit like driving a worn out 1980's Chevy Nova at an abondoned airport runway. The CRT's we've seen would be more aking to a late model BMW M5 on a twisty mountain road. There's smaller, sexier cars to do the job with but for it's size that M5 will get you there fast, smoothly and in style
This is a place to discuss ideas and be open to other opinions, ideas and learn from eachother. Try to remember that when posting :TJason- Bottom
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