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  • Race Car Driver
    Super Senior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 1540

    #1

    Transformers: Whos got it?

    Ill grab it when the stores open up.

    Im just gonna get the regular old DVD though.

    I still refuse to give into the HD "war"

    And until one is "dead" or a nice combo unit can be had for 299 or less, I think I am going to keep it that way.

    /stubborn
    B&W
  • Dmantis
    Super Senior Member
    • Jun 2004
    • 1037

    #2
    I'm picking it up today on HD DVD. I'm expecting it to rip it up. I saw it 2 times in the movies and thought this is going to make for a killer Home theater movie demo.

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    • Pez
      Senior Member
      • May 2004
      • 472

      #3
      I am getting the HD DVD version during my lunch break today. I am very excitied for this movie as I grew up playing with Transformers.

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      • George Bellefontaine
        Moderator Emeritus
        • Jan 2001
        • 7636

        #4
        I'll be picking up the standard dvd today.
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        • Hdale85
          Ultra Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 16120

          #5
          Was going to preorder from amazon but with shipping I figured I might as well pick it up locally. I'll be picking it up today when the wife gets home. The HD-DVD of course .

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          • Charles
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 119

            #6
            Some Circuit City's have a buy one get on free on HD DVD's and Blu Ray for movies $29.99 and under. Picked up 2 HD DVD copies of Transformers today (1 for friend) for $31.80 out the door. Also picked up about 14 other HD DVD's while I was there. May want to try it at your local CC, can't beat the price. The 2 stores I went to were Mall of Georgia and Gwinnett Place N.E. of Atlanta. There are reports of most stores nationwide doing this promotion. Special is reported to go through Saturday.

            12 of the 14 others I picked out were $24.99 which made them $12.50 each, pretty good deal and the sale is not studio specific.
            Last edited by Charles; 16 October 2007, 18:10 Tuesday.

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            • Hdale85
              Ultra Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 16120

              #7
              Ok well....going to have to get over to CC I suppose. Little further then BB but sounds like it may be worth it.

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              • PewterTA
                Super Senior Member
                • Nov 2004
                • 2900

                #8
                Got the HD Version.

                HANDS DOWN, the best HD transfer I have ever seen in my life. The picture is flawless...if you can find an artifact...look again, it isn't one. lol.

                The sound, while I was surprised not lossless, is one of the best soundtracks I've heard. The sound of metal on metal while the transformers...well transform...is amazing, they definitely use the surrounds for little sound effects to put placement of things coming on and off screen. The bass is well IMHO perfect, comes through amazingly well and with fury... enough that I thought a couple times I'd have to bump the bass down...but what fun would that be?!

                If you have an HD player, this is THE best money you can spend to show 'HD' off to anyone.

                Rating:
                :T :T :T :T :T
                Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                -Dan

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                • Charles
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 119

                  #9
                  ^^^
                  I agree, just finished watching it and the picture and audio is top notch.

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                  • Pez
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2004
                    • 472

                    #10
                    Just got done watching it - while it suffers some of the same flaws just about every action movie does I was very pleased (dont get me wrong, I love action movies). Considering how long I have been waiting for this (ever since it was first discussed a few years ago) it did not dissappoint. After a little down time at the begining the action was non-stop. I still cant believe how good the robots looked. Just wish I knew about the CC deal cause I paid full HD DVD price - but with this movie it was money well spent.

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                    • PewterTA
                      Super Senior Member
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 2900

                      #11
                      Go to CC and buy it and another movie... then take 'that' Transformers back to the place you bought it and return it.
                      Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                      -Dan

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                      • Chris D
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 16875

                        #12
                        Wow, Charles! BB is having the sale this week for BOGO of select BD's, but this is the first I've heard of a BOGO for ANY HD-DVD, or ANY BD! Wow!

                        I pre-ordered it in HD from Amazon. Shipped today. No CC's in Alaska.

                        Yeah, I'm real surprised that the sound's not lossless on such a showcase disc. Maybe the studio's planning another Uber Edition later.
                        CHRIS

                        Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                        - Pleasantville

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                        • NMG
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 232

                          #13
                          Just finished watching the HD-DVD version and yeah, it was incredible :B

                          There was one part in the battle scene near the end when I thought stuff was going to fall off the walls from the extended low bass and I only have a single 12 . . . LOL. Great PQ and SQ. Overall, a highly impressive disc :T

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                          • Hdale85
                            Ultra Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 16120

                            #14
                            I picked it up bit have not watched it yet. I did watch it in theaters though so interested to see how much better the HD-DVD is.

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                            • Dmantis
                              Super Senior Member
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 1037

                              #15
                              I watched it lastnight in HD DVD and it's fantastic. Audio and video is top notch. Reference disc for sure. Excellent demo'ing movie .

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                              • joetama
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2006
                                • 786

                                #16
                                I might get it...

                                Maybe...
                                -Joe

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                                • Charles
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jul 2006
                                  • 119

                                  #17
                                  The Circuit City sale on HD DVD may have been a glitch, you may want to check further before making a special trip.

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                                  • maseline_98
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Apr 2005
                                    • 317

                                    #18
                                    I was wondering if the HD-DVD had a SD-DVD version on it. I know a lot of the HD-DVDs do this and I was curious if this was one.

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                                    • Race Car Driver
                                      Super Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 1540

                                      #19
                                      I watched the SD DVD last night, and what an amazing movie!
                                      I didnt see it in the theater, however this became my new favorite movie, and demo disc!

                                      Man, not only did the movie make me laugh!! But it was a GOOD MOVIE! The picture quality was there, the sound was AMAZING!! The fight scene with the Decpticons and Autobots was just crazy, gave my whole system a workout.

                                      I've been holding off on buying some DVDs because I want to wait until I get a high def player of some kind, however, this is one DVD I am glad I bought!
                                      B&W

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                                      • Hdale85
                                        Ultra Senior Member
                                        • Jan 2006
                                        • 16120

                                        #20
                                        Well I may not watch the disc for a while...for some reason it won't play on my pc. Maybe because I use AnyDVD HD which strips the HDCP protection...and they have some new bypass for it or something? I need to just get an HDCP video card.

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                                        • John Holmes
                                          Super Senior Member
                                          • Aug 2000
                                          • 2707

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Dougie085
                                          I picked it up bit have not watched it yet. I did watch it in theaters though so interested to see how much better the HD-DVD is.

                                          I watched a few scenes from the HD version last night. I also saw this at a digital theater. The HD-DVD has an even better picture!

                                          The only issue that was brought up by most, (discussed in "At The Movies" section) was the softning of detail during the fight scenes of the theatrcal release. This is not present on the HD version. The PQ is about the best I've seen to date.
                                          "I have come here, to chew bubblegum and kickass. And I'm all out of bubblegum!!!"

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                                          • RebelMan
                                            Ultra Senior Member
                                            • Mar 2005
                                            • 3139

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Chris D
                                            Yeah, I'm real surprised that the sound's not lossless on such a showcase disc. Maybe the studio's planning another Uber Edition later.
                                            Rumor has it the extras consumed the necessary disc space that would have been available to lossless codecs. This seems to be the first case where the inherent spatial limitations of the 30GB HD-DVD dual layer format has reared it's ugly head. Unfortunately, it's a price early adopters have to pay for Paramount's well thought out decision :roll: to be a single HD format supporter. Given that I refuse to pickup an HD-DVD player I'll happily make do with the upscaled DVD version instead.
                                            "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today."

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                                            • Hdale85
                                              Ultra Senior Member
                                              • Jan 2006
                                              • 16120

                                              #23
                                              All the extra's are on a second disc. So I don't see how thats possible.

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                                              • RebelMan
                                                Ultra Senior Member
                                                • Mar 2005
                                                • 3139

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Dougie085
                                                All the extra's are on a second disc. So I don't see how thats possible.
                                                It's possible. The HD-DVD release is chock full of supplements and hi-def extras necessitating the need to span across multiple disks. Paramount studios stated disc space restrictions forced the need for a lossy audio soundtrack to provide the feature rich experience.
                                                "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today."

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                                                • NMG
                                                  Senior Member
                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                  • 232

                                                  #25
                                                  I haven't had the pleasure of experiencing any lossless formats, however, if it is significantly better than the SQ on this particular disc, it must be amazing. I was very impressed with the regular sound from the disc.

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                                                  • Jack Gilvey
                                                    Senior Member
                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                    • 509

                                                    #26
                                                    I'll probably pick this up, looks like fun. HD DVD of course, no reason to buy SD at this point.

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                                                    • RebelMan
                                                      Ultra Senior Member
                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                      • 3139

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Jack Gilvey
                                                      I'll probably pick this up, looks like fun. HD DVD of course, no reason to buy SD at this point.
                                                      There is one very good reason to buy the SD version... it's much cheaper! :B
                                                      "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today."

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                                                      • Race Car Driver
                                                        Super Senior Member
                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 1540

                                                        #28
                                                        Yep, Got the SD and a bottle of pop for 16.xx out the door.

                                                        I spent the other 15$ on a cheap hooker and blow...













                                                        ok, not really.
                                                        B&W

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                                                        • Chris D
                                                          Ultra Senior Member
                                                          • Dec 2000
                                                          • 16875

                                                          #29
                                                          Well, with the other stuff, you won't even notice whether you bought the HD version or not!
                                                          CHRIS

                                                          Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                                                          - Pleasantville

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                                                          • Jack Gilvey
                                                            Senior Member
                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                            • 509

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by RebelMan
                                                            There is one very good reason to buy the SD version... it's much cheaper! :B
                                                            True...that's a good reason to buy Night Train, too.

                                                            I'll Netflix this one first, anyway.

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                                                            • maddog
                                                              Member
                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 86

                                                              #31
                                                              I picked up the HD DVD at CC's 2 for 1 sale. Got it for less than $15, which is less than the SD DVD. The audio is reported to be 24-bit 1.5 Mbps DD+, which is arguably better than 16-bit lossless. If it is true that they could not put a 20 or 24-bit lossless on there because of space limitation of the 30 GB disc, Paramount should have used VC1 instead of AVC for the video. VC1 would have allowed a lower bitrate with the same PQ. That's the fault of Paramount, not the HD DVD format.

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                                                              • Jack Gilvey
                                                                Senior Member
                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                • 509

                                                                #32
                                                                I have no doubt that if the package said "TrueHD", very few would know the difference.

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                                                                • Hdale85
                                                                  Ultra Senior Member
                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                  • 16120

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Well got it to work on my PC by connecting through the analog input instead of DVI. The analog doesn't look bad so I'll leave it on there for now until I get an HDCP video card. Going to watch it after dinner here in a bit.

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                                                                  • RebelMan
                                                                    Ultra Senior Member
                                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                                    • 3139

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by maddog
                                                                    The audio is reported to be 24-bit 1.5 Mbps DD+, which is arguably better than 16-bit lossless.
                                                                    Perceptual compression algorithms are always inferior to lossless codecs. The bit depths of DD+ and the like are variable. The 24bit reference generally pertains to the master from which the encoding is processed and the maximum quantization possible of a sample in time.

                                                                    If it is true that they could not put a 20 or 24-bit lossless on there because of space limitation of the 30 GB disc, Paramount should have used VC1 instead of AVC for the video. VC1 would have allowed a lower bitrate with the same PQ. That's the fault of Paramount, not the HD DVD format.
                                                                    This is speculative at best. Paramount had several options at their disposal but each was governed by the limits of the medium.
                                                                    "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today."

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                                                                    • George Bellefontaine
                                                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 7636

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Watched it last night. Excellent popcorn flick. Wow picture and wow sound. Well worth owning for that alone.
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                                                                      • audioqueso
                                                                        Super Senior Member
                                                                        • Nov 2004
                                                                        • 1933

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Hello everyone! It's been a while...

                                                                        I picked this up last week. Watched it on a little Sony 32" LCD I just picked up (I just moved), with no audio system hooked up to it. Just the tv feed by my laptop's DB15 output. Regardless of how simple my setup was, this movie is gorgeous!!! I can only imagine what it would have looked like in my last home setup (65" plus B&W HT setup). I wonder how good it looks to you guys with 1080p setups. Love this movie!!!
                                                                        B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720

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                                                                        • Chris D
                                                                          Ultra Senior Member
                                                                          • Dec 2000
                                                                          • 16875

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Just picked up my A35 today. Hooked it up to my new 1080p 120Hz flatscreen.

                                                                          Checking out Transformers in 1080p 24Hz during the "Heroes' commercials. So far, the first thing to say is... definitely a Michael Bay film. Larger than life, cheesy but semi-cool military scenes with lots of airplanes, hero music.

                                                                          HOLY FRACKIN' !#$#BALLS, I can't believe the picture quailty!
                                                                          CHRIS

                                                                          Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                                                                          - Pleasantville

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                                                                          • Nolan B
                                                                            Super Senior Member
                                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                                            • 1792

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I got it and its brainless fun....and looks amazing. Its the #1 sellng HD movie from either format. 100,000 units sold the first day and 190,000 over the next 6 days!

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                                                                            • Chris D
                                                                              Ultra Senior Member
                                                                              • Dec 2000
                                                                              • 16875

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Watched it all the way through. Dumb, but fun. Especially in the front, I kept thinking, "Yeah... this is DEFINITELY a Michael Bay film".

                                                                              I was AMAZED by the animation, CGI, or whatever you want to call it of the Transformers battling it out. Wow!

                                                                              All in all, pretty enjoyable and glad I made the purchase.
                                                                              CHRIS

                                                                              Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                                                                              - Pleasantville

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                                                                              • hawkfan
                                                                                Member
                                                                                • Feb 2007
                                                                                • 60

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Quite possibly THE best movie...ever

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                                                                                • George Bellefontaine
                                                                                  Moderator Emeritus
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 7636

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by hawkfan
                                                                                  Quite possibly THE best movie...ever
                                                                                  Well...I wouldn't quite go that far, but it was darn good entertainment.
                                                                                  My Homepage!

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                                                                                  • hawkfan
                                                                                    Member
                                                                                    • Feb 2007
                                                                                    • 60

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by George Bellefontaine
                                                                                    Well...I wouldn't quite go that far, but it was darn good entertainment.
                                                                                    Indeed. Pardon my gushing over this movie, but I'm a tech head who watched the Transformers, Go-bots, and Voltron religiously as a kid. It's good to see a live action movie of a cartoon/comic done right, especially with the amount of CGI involved. Believe me, it could have been much worse(anyone remember "Hulk"?). I felt that this movie was wonderfully executed . It's been a long time since I was "wowed" by an action movie.

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                                                                                    • George Bellefontaine
                                                                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 7636

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Understood, hawkfan.
                                                                                      My Homepage!

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                                                                                      • greenhorn
                                                                                        Senior Member
                                                                                        • Feb 2007
                                                                                        • 204

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        We Rented It

                                                                                        We rented it, wasn't really expecting much, rented because I was interested in how it was going to look and sound. I'll be asking for it for my birthday. Looked great, sounded great too... and it was a fun movie. I loved the comedy aspects, could of had more of the parents especially the Mom.

                                                                                        Very good popcorn movie, just a movie to kick back, watch and have a good time :T

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                                                                                        • Charles
                                                                                          Senior Member
                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                          • 119

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Definitly not a classic for my age catagory (almost 50), but a fun watch. The PQ and SQ really is near reference in HD. WOW!

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