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  • Nemesis
    Junior Member
    • May 2005
    • 9

    #1

    Problem w/ C2 Level Autocalibrate.

    Hello
    Have a little problem with Level Autocalibrate on my C2.It calibrates alright until
    it reach the sub.Then it will try over and over again and stating "Level too low for calibration". This can't be the case, cause it sounds like the sub is gonna blow!
    I checked with my RadioShack and the level is way up when it's on the highest before it starts over.This problem arised suddenly from one day to another.
    Anyone had this problem,or heard about it?

    Regards
    A.E.Persson
    Norway
  • Peter Nielsen
    Super Senior Member
    • Sep 2004
    • 1188

    #2
    Hei,

    It sounds like your sub has a high pass filter enabled that prevents the C2 from doing proper calibration. Please let us know the brand & model of your sub. This will make it easier to figure out what's wrong...

    Peter

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    • Nemesis
      Junior Member
      • May 2005
      • 9

      #3
      Hello
      My sub is a SVS PB 10.I also use a Velodyne SMS-1.Calibration worked OK with this setup,and I can't remember changing anything before the problem arised.

      A.E. Persson

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      • Peter Nielsen
        Super Senior Member
        • Sep 2004
        • 1188

        #4
        Well, assuming you didn't change anything, it is possible that something got messed up in the C2 settings. Did you try to unplug the C2 for 1+ minute and try again? Resetting to factory settings and redoing the calibration is also a good start.

        Peter

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        • Nemesis
          Junior Member
          • May 2005
          • 9

          #5
          I turn off all my HT stuff every night.Sets everything in standby and kills the power with a mains switch for the HT.
          It's not a big deal really.I can use my RadioShack meter for the sub,but I felt the Auto calibration was more accurate.
          It's midnight here,I'll try some more tomorrow.
          Thanks for your help.

          Regards

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          • Chris D
            Ultra Senior Member
            • Dec 2000
            • 16875

            #6
            Nemesis, are you doing the Parasound auto-calibration before you use the SMS-1? You first want to calibrate before you equalize. Using my Behringer Feedback Destroyer, I set it to straight pass-through so it's essentially turned off and doesn't alter the signal whatsoever in the slightest. If in doubt, I'd even bypass the equalizer (SMS-1) with your cable routing for the calibration part.

            Yes, I do recommend a combination of the auto-cal and an RS meter for proper calibration. Auto-cal first, then fine-tune with the meter. But I don't change the sub setting based on the RS meter, only the other channels.
            CHRIS

            Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
            - Pleasantville

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            • Nemesis
              Junior Member
              • May 2005
              • 9

              #7
              Thanks for the reply.
              I used to Autocalibrate before and after the use of SMS-1.As the autocalibrate do not work for the sub now , I will have to rely on the RS meter.
              I'll try later today or tomorrow some other filter settings and even bypassing the SMS-1.

              Regards

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              • Nemesis
                Junior Member
                • May 2005
                • 9

                #8
                Bypassed the SMS-1 and connected the sub direct to the C2.Still the same
                problem.When the calibration tries to calibrate the sub,it plays louder and
                louder and the C2 at last states "level to low to calibrate",and the bass level from the sub is thunderous before it starts over.

                A.E Persson

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                • Peter Nielsen
                  Super Senior Member
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 1188

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nemesis
                  Bypassed the SMS-1 and connected the sub direct to the C2.Still the same
                  problem.When the calibration tries to calibrate the sub,it plays louder and
                  louder and the C2 at last states "level to low to calibrate",and the bass level from the sub is thunderous before it starts over.

                  A.E Persson
                  Hmmm... Sounds like the microphone isn't picking up the sound. Have you tried to replace the battery in the microphone with a fresh one? (If the battery is good, then the next step would be to check that the mic cable connection is good. Can you use the mic to calibrate the other speakers?)

                  Peter

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                  • Nemesis
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2005
                    • 9

                    #10
                    I can use the mic to calibrate the other channels.No problem with that.

                    A.E.Persson

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                    • Peter Nielsen
                      Super Senior Member
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 1188

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nemesis
                      I can use the mic to calibrate the other channels.No problem with that.
                      If you haven't tried a brand new fresh battery, do that... (A long shot, but possibly a weak battery could limit the frequency range of the mic. IMHO that's just as good guess as anything else).

                      If a fresh battery doesn't help, then I'd look at doing a full factory reset of all the settings...

                      Peter

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                      • Nemesis
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 9

                        #12
                        Tried a new battery earlier tonight,but no help in that. Full factory reset?
                        Don't know if it's worth it.I'll see if I get some spare time.

                        Thanks for the suggestions. :T

                        A.E.Persson

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                        • Peter Nielsen
                          Super Senior Member
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 1188

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nemesis
                          Tried a new battery earlier tonight,but no help in that. Full factory reset?
                          Don't know if it's worth it.I'll see if I get some spare time.
                          Somehow I doubt a reset will help. The problem could be a bad mic or a problem with the mic input stage of the C2. If the unit is still under warranty, it might be worth getting it fixed...

                          Peter

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                          • Chris D
                            Ultra Senior Member
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 16875

                            #14
                            True, but Parasound readily states that these processors are like computers. Sometimes after a while you just have to reset and flush out all the electronic "junk".

                            If you're worried about the trouble of resetting everything after a full reset, you can always use the Halo Control program to save all your settings and then re-upload again when you're done. (if you haven't done this yet, i do highly recommend it, and I believe that a computer and Halo Control are ESSENTIAL for proper C1/C2 setup)

                            Based on what we're discussing, and if you're not having any other problems with the C2, I'd doubt that there's anything wrong with the C2 itself. Perhaps the microphone?
                            CHRIS

                            Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                            - Pleasantville

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