Are All Lossless Rippers Equal?

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  • David Meek
    Ultra Senior Member
    • Aug 2000
    • 8934

    #1

    Are All Lossless Rippers Equal?

    As far as sound quality goes, if you rip a song from CD to a hard drive using a lossless software, is there a difference in the files between the various packages available?
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    David - Trigger-happy HTGuide Admin
  • jim777
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 831

    #2
    Are you talking about the final uncompressed audio that you listen to, or the compressed files themselves?

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    • Audiophiliac
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 346

      #3
      You will find minor size differences most likely, but in the end, when it is decoded, it is all going to look the same bit for bit. Hence the term lossless.

      There are several popular formats out there, AAC, FLAC, ALAC, LPAC, Monkey's Audio, WMA-Lossless, etc.......AAC and FLAC are the most popular it seems. AAC is mostly for the iPod/Mac crowd and FLAC seems to be the choice for most other people. Its free, open source, and ever-growing hardware support for it, for the home and car and portable devices. Thats what I use exclusively. Good luck!

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      • David Meek
        Ultra Senior Member
        • Aug 2000
        • 8934

        #4
        Originally posted by Jim
        Are you talking about the final uncompressed audio that you listen to, or the compressed files themselves?
        Well, both actually.
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        David - Trigger-happy HTGuide Admin

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        • ShadowZA
          Super Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 1099

          #5
          Originally posted by David Meek
          As far as sound quality goes, if you rip a song from CD to a hard drive using a lossless software, is there a difference in the files between the various packages available?
          IMO, even if you are using lossless software there will be a difference. This difference is due to the process of conversion. The reason for this difference is called aliasing (or smoothing). However, as the software is lossless, this difference should not be audibly noticeable.

          Here's a link to a comparison of various audio codecs:

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          • jim777
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 831

            #6
            Well a lossless codec will always give an uncompressed file identical to the input file. That means that any sound differences will have something to do with the ripping itself (obtaining an uncompressed file in the first place) or with the playback (comparing your CD player to your computer's sound card won't sound the same). In theory the ripping itself shouldn't be an issue, but some software seam to do a better job with scratched or dirty discs than others (EAC is good for ripping).

            Than you can compare the two most popular lossless formats, FLAC and Monkey (APE). They do not compress exactly the same way, but I would suggest that both are pretty much as good as each other. I never had an issue with either one of them.

            So the most important issue is how you will playback your files from your computer and not which lossless compression scheme that you will use.

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            • Brandon B
              Super Senior Member
              • Jun 2001
              • 2189

              #7
              Originally posted by Audiophiliac
              AAC and FLAC are the most popular it seems. AAC is mostly for the iPod/Mac crowd and FLAC seems to be the choice for most other people.
              Not sure if you're saying AAC is a Mac specific format or not (I get the impression you aren't), but to clarify, it is not. It does tend to be more popular on the Mac platform as Apple has chosen it as their integrated standard, but it can be used as easily in any other environment.



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              • Audiophiliac
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 346

                #8
                I didnt mean it was ONLY for Macs, you just dont see much support for it outside that realm. Thanks for clarifying that.


                And my vote still goes for FLAC baby! It just sounds cool too. FLAC FLAC FLAC.

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