Isobaric, how to actually do it?

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  • DaveFred
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2018
    • 237

    #1

    Isobaric, how to actually do it?

    Okay, I know the theory behind Isobaric, I have seen lots of line drawings of Isobaric woofer setups, "cone to cone", "magnet to magnet" and "cone to magnet", but very few real life build examples, expecially in non-subwoofer applications.

    Since I am looking to build a multiway full range speaker and not a subwoofer, the easy "cone to cone" is off the menu and I will instead have to do "magnet to cone".


    My question really comes down to the size of the physical chamber between the two woofers and properly "venting" the front woofer.

    I don't know how increasing the chamber size between the two woofers to allow for front woofer venting effects coupling between the two woofers.

    Does a larger chamber between the woofers decrease the coupling effect due to air compressability?

    I would expect the smaller the chamber the better, but the chamber needs to be large enough to allow proper front woofer venting so it can breathe.

    Also playing into this, since there is a mid woofer above the pair of isobaric woofers, a larger coupling chamber between the woofers increases the
    centre to centre spacing between the woofer and the mid woofer above it.

    My guess, and I think what I will go with is, as large a chamber as required to allow for normal rear venting on the front woofer as I would do on any other build, ignore the larger center to center spacing that that forces and deal with it in the crossover. The C-C not being as important as it would be in a two way, because the XO point is going to be in the 100's of Hz and not >1000Hz.

    Shots of the 7" woofers in question to show how closed the frame is and various Isobaric configs.

    Thoughts on my rambling post?


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  • JonMarsh
    Mad Max Moderator
    • Aug 2000
    • 16053

    #2
    Have you had a look at Unibox 4? It can give you a lot of calculation assistance in working out the details. Another suggestion is to search for commercial Isobaric designs, as well as DIY, and ponder their approaches. I've done this once for a subwoofer, eons ago, and it worked out OK, but for a fuller range application you'd usually have to have a crossover on the ISOBARIC woofer if the main woofer is going up high. Tricky
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    • technodanvan
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      • Nov 2009
      • 1483

      #3
      I can't help on the isobaric nature of the post, but I'm pretty interested to seeing your impressions of those woofers.
      - Danny

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      • DaveFred
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2018
        • 237

        #4
        Originally posted by JonMarsh
        Have you had a look at Unibox 4?
        I have version 4.08, updated 2008, will take a look and give it a try...

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        • JonMarsh
          Mad Max Moderator
          • Aug 2000
          • 16053

          #5
          I'll also dig into my records about other folks projects, see what I can come up with. It's been really busy on topics other than audio the last two weeks, feel like I need to do a "re-entry"!

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          Natalie P
          M8ta
          Modula Neo DCC
          Modula MT XE
          Modula Xtreme
          Isiris
          Wavecor Ardent

          SMJ
          Minerva Monitor
          Calliope
          Ardent D

          In Development...
          Isiris Mk II updates- in final test stage!
          Obi-Wan
          Saint-Saëns Symphonique/AKA SMJ-40
          Modula PWB
          Calliope CC Supreme
          Natalie P Ultra
          Natalie P Supreme
          Janus BP1 Sub


          Resistance is not futile, it is Volts divided by Amperes...
          Just ask Mr. Ohm....

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