I have the 18cm unit here. It will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the competition.
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Well, if you're willing to share info, it would be interesting. As difficult as they are to source for DIY, it's probably only an "academic" interest- it's easier to get the exotic Accuton parts than ATC! :Wthe AudioWorx
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So people don't get confused we should differentiate...
ATC = Acoustic Transducer Company is British
Audio Technology sometimes referred to as 'Skaaning' is in Denmark . If one has the $$$$ and patience the 'Flex' units can be custom ordered directly from Audio Technology.
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"Complicated equipment and light reflectors and various other items of hardware are enough, to my mind, to prevent the birdie from coming out." ...... Henri Cartier-Bresson- Bottom
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This thread is worth a peek to see the Duelund parts and custom Audio Technology (flex)units that are going into a new Peak Consult model.
Ibland duggar Euphoniaträffarna tätt, ibland ligger de väl utspridda över året. Fredagskvällens begivenheter hos Kenneth Englund mjukstartade på trevligast tänkbara sätt och någon brist på samtalsämnen lär inte ha förekommit runt aftonens buffébord. Sällan har så många forumsfotografer varit så a...- Bottom
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My bad. Thanks for the head slap, Tom.
Thanks for the link, Chris. Someone's got a bit of money to play with!
I've done a preliminary set of drawings for a Peak Consult Dragon clone, but I'm back to leaning towards an Isiris Mta for the next "big" project, not a 7/8 scale dragon.
So, Craig, have you got the 18H521706SD?
I like the customized concept of the flex series, and the basket approach looks like it will be strong and hopefully resonance free.
While the AudioTechnology web site lists Madisound as a partner, there isn't any indication on the current Madisound site that they sell them.
Seems to be a similar situation with regards to Solen and E-Speakers. So, not so easy to get around here is my story, and I'm sticking to it. In Europe it may be a different story, of course.the AudioWorx
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They are purty, aren't they?
Dang if that one on the right doesn't look like my drawings.... has someone from Denmark been sneaking around my computer? :E
I don't think those front panels look nearly beefy enough, though.... :roll:
I like skinny women, but fat front panels! :Bthe AudioWorx
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I have emailed Skaaning a few times over the last several years. They sell direct, respond within 24 hours, and even post prices in Euro on their site.
They make top notch stuff. Since it is poly, it sounds much different than paper (Scan-Speak) or ceramic cones (Accuton), but I like it. And...they will build you whatever you want in hobbiest quantities! (no need to buy 50, 100, or 1000)
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Have you ever run the numbers on T/S parameters and enclosure sizes for RS270's? They need HUGE boxes for bass extension- of course, then it will be fairly efficient. A 10" driver with a 40 gram woofer is a bit out of the ordinary.
The other thing that's cool/odd about these, considering how deep they are, even butted back against the wall, they'd stick out in the room quite a ways!the AudioWorx
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Keep in mind, the cabinet on the left is actually four cabinets. Even if you wanted to reduce it to say, just two, the idea is the same- make the facet fronts for each section, then glue the result together. All you need is some homemade jigs and a precision taper jig, and a decent saw. Unfortunately, that does eliminate contractor style 10" table saws- they don't do deep enough cuts.the AudioWorx
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Originally posted by FaceWhat are the odds of a tutorial on how to make cabinets like that? I'd love to make a pair that look just like those on the left.- Bottom
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Originally posted by JonMarshKeep in mind, the cabinet on the left is actually four cabinets. Even if you wanted to reduce it to say, just two, the idea is the same- make the facet fronts for each section, then glue the result together. All you need is some homemade jigs and a precision taper jig, and a decent saw. Unfortunately, that does eliminate contractor style 10" table saws- they don't do deep enough cuts.
As for the large Duelund caps pictured above, they're mighty heavy, they feel like a few pounds each.SEOS 12/AE TD10M Front Stage in Progress- Bottom
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We are on the same page, as you know, though I hear Palpatine is thinking ahead again... :twisted:
I don't know how ET puts up with that guy.... :roll:
I know where you could get a new pair of these for only $37,500... :E
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Of course, there's a little more to it than just building a box and putting the drivers in.... But wouldn't it be more fun to do it the hard way?the AudioWorx
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Originally posted by JonMarshWell, if you're willing to share info, it would be interesting. As difficult as they are to source for DIY, it's probably only an "academic" interest- it's easier to get the exotic Accuton parts than ATC! :W- Bottom
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Originally posted by tf1216Have you determined what you will be mating the 18H with Rick?- Bottom
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Rick if you need me to upload any pics for you just send via email again. Last time you were having trouble uploading the pics on the forum.
I'm sure a lot of us would like to see some measurements of this driver. Although not knowing what model we're looking at is a bit confusing. If it did turn out to measure well, what would we order from AT?- Bottom
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It's probably the stock unit that Andre has on/for sale at E-Speakers, which is the same unit Troels Gravesen used in the TL kits he designed for Jantzen and I think the same model Tony Gee used in a 2 way on his site.
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Originally posted by JonMarshI know where you could get a new pair of these for only $37,500... :E
Ah well, at least it gets shipped in its own coffin. Something for the kids to play in after unpacking (or put them in for discipline if need be).- Bottom
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Originally posted by Dave BulletThe bottom picture... A novel concept to the double enclosure (although I thought the second enclosure was supposed to go on the inside - not outside the drivers). Maybe the whole thing is a new "allpass bandpass" design :rofl:
Ah well, at least it gets shipped in its own coffin. Something for the kids to play in after unpacking (or put them in for discipline if need be).
I'm sure we could find something to do with it....the AudioWorx
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Originally posted by tf1216Hi Rick,
Can you add any updates on this design?
The main issue I had was a sharp dip at about 1400hz, probably edge resonance from the surround. The response profile made it difficult to get a good filter transfer function. In comparison, the Scan-Speak Revelator beats it in all areas - frequency response, flexible tweeter choices, bass extension, and sensitivity for a lower cost.- Bottom
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Originally posted by tf1216I was expecting to hear better comments but that is what makes this hobby exciting. Thank you Rick ( :- Bottom
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Originally posted by Rick CraigI just finished the crossover. The woofer falls short of the competition and you can do better for less money.
There are a lot of different versions you can order, so most probably you are using the woofer in the wrong application.- Bottom
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Originally posted by TacoDI can understand that the AT does not tick all the boxes for your application, but stating that that you can easily do better is in my opinion not correct.
There are a lot of different versions you can order, so most probably you are using the woofer in the wrong application.- Bottom
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Originally posted by Dave BulletI've read comments from 2 other designers to the same effect (can do better for less money), so either their applications were also wrong or there is a reason Scanspeak seems to be used in more DIY designs than AT.
Just the other side of the coin.
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Measurements now posted here...
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Originally posted by tf1216On more thoughts on this speaker?- Bottom
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Originally posted by chrismercurioThis thread is worth a peek to see the Duelund parts and custom Audio Technology (flex)units that are going into a new Peak Consult model.
http://www.euphonia-audioforum.se/fo...ic=6635&st=225
I'll "see" your pretty manufacturing pic's and "raise you":
(some of Tony Gee's custom work.) :T- Bottom
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