Dayton speakers in Canada

[alexnick]

Has anyone seen distributors for Dayton speakers in Canada?
If I order them directly from PE I will have to pay some taxes when the package arrives? I believe that I have to pay the Canadian VAT, but can I reclaim the american VAT?

If someone has some experience with ordering speakers from another country please help me!

Best regards,
Nick

[morbo]

You have to order them from Parts Express. If you get them shipped USPS, you will pay GST + duty. If you ship by UPS, you will pay GST + duty + 'brokerage'. I never ship by UPS as the brokerage fees are ridiculous, much more than the premium for using USPS.

[alexnick]

So what do you advise me to do?
What does GST and duty mean? I know that shipping through US Airmail would cost ~45$!
How much more do I have to pay?

[morbo]

GST is 6%, duty I'm not sure. You may also have to pay PST (7%) depending on your province. I suggest you ship from PE using USPS, or choose a design that has all the parts available from Solen, like some of Zaph's designs.

[alexnick]

I'm asking you this because I live in Romania and I have to ship the Speakers from PE to my cousin in Kitchener, Canada. Cost is very importtant to me since it adds by percent.

[morbo]

alex, I understand. I am about 30km from Kitchener myself. If you need to order from Parts Express, USPS is the cheapest way. You will pay 14% tax (gst+pst) and a similar amount of duty. I'm not sure of the exact amount for duty.

There is also Solen (www.solen.ca) which is Canadian, ships cheaper, and has no duty, but it does not carry dayton brand speakers, though it does carry Vifa, Peerless, Seas, Hi-Vi and various other drivers. You can find good designs using some of those drivers at www.zaphaudio.com.

Other canadian speaker building vendors are www.creativesound.ca and www.rawacoustics.ca. Hopefully this helps.

[kingpin]

I wonder what it would take to be a dealer in Canada. Or even a reseller so the discount at least covers the duty and such.

Mike

[alexnick]

What does GST mean? Is it the same thing with the VAT?
And PST?

By the way, if I have to pay the Canadian VAT, can't I reclaim back the one from USA?

[Martyn]

Yes, GST is the Canadian equivalent of VAT. It's a federal sales tax. PST is a provincial sales tax. You will incur both taxes by shipping to Ontario. You should not pay a US sales tax if the parts are shipped by the US supplier direct to a Canadian address.

[kingpin]

G.S.T.

Good and Services Tax. An extra 6% in most Canadian provinces. Along with 8% Sales tax on almost all purchases.

Mike

[ThomasW]

Those are taxes in Canada.

There are no VAT or any other kinds of taxes or duties on products bought in the US and shipped out of the country. So you might find it cheaper to have PE ship directly to you.

However a very big down side to getting products from the US is warranty service. Should you receive a DOA product you might as well throw it away and order a new one.

I really think you should look at locally available products simply because of customer service..

[alexnick]

There's no way I could find Dayton speakers outside USA!

[Florian]

Thorsten Weber sells Dayton drivers in his shop Boxen Baustelle in Germany. Prices are high compared to Partsexpress, but probably still cheaper considering taxes and shipping costs to Europe.

Florian

[alexnick]

Thanks for the tip Florian!
Daytons are expensive there, but I found that they are also available in Europe!
I assume that you are from Romania( I am).

[Florian]

Thanks for the tip Florian!
Daytons are expensive there, but I found that they are also available in Europe!
I assume that you are from Romania( I am).

Hi Nick,

I'm from Switzerland. But I usually buy drivers in Germany, because there are not many DIY audio shops around here.
Romania is not (yet) in the EU, right? So you don't have to pay the EU VAT (16%), but probably the Romanian VAT (I have no idea how much that is).

Florian

[alexnick]

Strange. Your name is a romanian one.
Yes, not yet in the EU. Romanian one is 19%.

[Florian]

Strange. Your name is a romanian one.

The name is also quite common in german-speaking regions. There is even a Saint Florian :B

By the way, I never ordered from that shop, but the owner is quite active on the german DIY forums and I never heard anything bad about his shop.

Florian (no Saint :lol: )