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  • Lex
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Apr 2001
    • 27461

    outtage

    Sorry for the outtage guys. Our server blew a power supply. If the guy last night had been able to do his job effectively, we would have been up before now. But I did get on it first thing this morning and "gotter done".

    Lex
    Doug
    "I'm out there Jerry, and I'm loving every minute of it!" - Kramer
  • jimmyp58
    Super Senior Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 1449

    #2
    Thanks Doug....
    jpiscitello@ameritech.net

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    • posix
      Member
      • Feb 2005
      • 39

      #3
      I thought it was just dns outage...so the whole shebang blew up?

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      • Lex
        Moderator Emeritus
        • Apr 2001
        • 27461

        #4
        Well, Power Supply is defective, server is inaccessable, so yeah, I guess you could say the whole thing blew. At least we did not loose data though, that would be blowing chunks.

        Welcome Jim.

        Lex
        Doug
        "I'm out there Jerry, and I'm loving every minute of it!" - Kramer

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        • Kevin P
          Member
          • Aug 2000
          • 10808

          #5
          DNS for htguide.com/matrixav.us is on the same box as the web server for the forum, so when the server goes down, DNS resolution goes with it.

          Fortunately we didn't lose data, but I do take periodic backups so we wouldn't lose more than a few days' worth.

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          • posix
            Member
            • Feb 2005
            • 39

            #6
            was there another outtage today?
            guys you may want to think about moving your web server off the dns server...
            and is ns1 and ns2 the same box?

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            • Kevin P
              Member
              • Aug 2000
              • 10808

              #7
              No outage today that I know of...

              As for moving DNS off the box, that would be up to the hosting provider (unless Doug opts to host the DNS elsewhere like on ZoneEdit). The server is a dedicated leased box, used only for htguide.com, matrixav.us and some of Doug's cable sites. No other DNS is hosted on that server.

              As far as DNS goes, it's all or nothing. If the box is up, DNS works. If the box goes down, DNS goes down with it (but then, even if DNS was up, you wouldn't get to the site if the server is down).

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              • posix
                Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 39

                #8
                There was definitely outage today...from about 11 gmt till about 16 gmt

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                • Kevin P
                  Member
                  • Aug 2000
                  • 10808

                  #9
                  I was hitting the site during much of that time period (11-16 GMT == 6-11 EST) and no problems here. A co-worker had some troubles resolving DNS though.

                  I emailed Doug about adding a real secondary DNS server or moving the DNS off-site.

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                  • Jeff
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 281

                    #10
                    I must agree with posix. Tried to get on all day from work, from morning to quittin time. No luck.

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                    • Andrew Pratt
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 16507

                      #11
                      Apparently a few people are having DNS issues as i've gotten an email from a guy that's on the same ISP as me yet he can't get in unless he uses the IP address...weird.

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                      • posix
                        Member
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 39

                        #12
                        definitely DNS issues.

                        You guys should use one of the free dns servers out there as a secondary. That way you at least stand a 50/50 chance of being visible to the rest of the world.

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                        • Foxman
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 434

                          #13
                          First I've been able to log in since early this Am
                          IMO

                          My Movies
                          Bad Pics of my system

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                          • Aussie Geoff
                            Super Senior Member
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1914

                            #14
                            Hi,

                            In my view this is also a long term thing. I have seen this off and on for about a year. I regularly travel. Last year I spent 5 weeks in different parts of the world and it was amazing how (say) on the Hotel's cable I couldn't get the guide while on my corporate dial-up I could. Equally in another city the reverse would apply. This would go on for hours at a time. I could even test this simultaneously so it wasn't a timing thing - at the same time one round was open and the other closed. I could always ping the site's TCP address.

                            I can get at the site during some of the outages above and looking at the threads there were postings from some people. There has to be something wrong with the way the DNS is working. Most hosting services offer two high bandwidth DNS services. Can't we use these rather than the ones on our server?

                            Geoff

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                            • David Meek
                              Moderator Emeritus
                              • Aug 2000
                              • 8938

                              #15
                              Very strange. I can get on from the house but I couldn't from the office....
                              .

                              David - Trigger-happy HTGuide Admin

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                              • Kevin P
                                Member
                                • Aug 2000
                                • 10808

                                #16
                                We're working on setting up alternate DNS servers for htguide.com. Once Doug notifies the domain registrars it'll take a couple days for the root nameservers to propagate, but once it does, hopefully no one will have any more problems "finding" the site.

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                                • Andrew Pratt
                                  Moderator Emeritus
                                  • Aug 2000
                                  • 16507

                                  #17
                                  I can't seem to get on either at the moment unless I use the IP address.

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                                  • Kevin P
                                    Member
                                    • Aug 2000
                                    • 10808

                                    #18
                                    htguide.com was being moved to new nameservers last night. This could have caused an outage during propagation. It should get/be better today.

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                                    • George Bellefontaine
                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 7637

                                      #19
                                      No problem for me today.
                                      My Homepage!

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                                      • Kevin P
                                        Member
                                        • Aug 2000
                                        • 10808

                                        #20
                                        We had some problems with the transition so we switched back to the original nameservers for the time being. Hopefully accessibility is better now than it was. Please keep me posted if anyone still has trouble getting in after today (due to propagation, there could still be some issues today, but they should clear up over the weekend).

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                                        • Foxman
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 434

                                          #21
                                          First time today that I could access the sight FYI.
                                          IMO

                                          My Movies
                                          Bad Pics of my system

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                                          • Nick M
                                            Ultra Senior Member
                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 5959

                                            #22
                                            I tried getting on between 4pm and 8pm at various times and just got the white DNS problem screen. Just got on around 9pm.

                                            Worth the effort though, this is a great forum! :T
                                            ~Nick

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                                            • Kyle
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Jan 2005
                                              • 233

                                              #23
                                              FYI, I've been unable to get to the site all day, except by IP address (which I nslookup'd off of one of my work boxes).

                                              If you need someone to slave a zone for you, id be happy to do it on my nameserver (it lives on one of my forums servers, it's secure and reliable).

                                              -Kyle
                                              My gear

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                                              • Kyle
                                                Senior Member
                                                • Jan 2005
                                                • 233

                                                #24
                                                Still having problems today..

                                                Appears that the nameservers on record don't resolve:

                                                (kyle@ingenue) nslookup -sil htguide.com NS2.MATRIXAV.US
                                                nslookup: Couldn't find server 'NS2.MATRIXAV.US': No address associated with nodename
                                                (kyle@ingenue) nslookup -sil htguide.com NS1.MATRIXAV.US
                                                nslookup: Couldn't find server 'NS1.MATRIXAV.US': No address associated with nodename
                                                My gear

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                                                • Nick M
                                                  Ultra Senior Member
                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                  • 5959

                                                  #25
                                                  The only way Ive been able to get on is by using the IP address as well.
                                                  Other than that, the forum goes like a raped-ape.
                                                  ~Nick

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                                                  • Fishy
                                                    Senior Member
                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 299

                                                    #26
                                                    I have been having problems for the last week or so, even nslookup wouldnt find it.

                                                    Ended up using a web tracking util site and that gave me the IP address, which I am currently using.

                                                    Fish

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                                                    • Kevin P
                                                      Member
                                                      • Aug 2000
                                                      • 10808

                                                      #27
                                                      Looks like we had another outage overnight. The server was still up but Apache wasn't responding. I stopped and restarted Apache and all is well now...

                                                      KJP

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                                                      • Kevin P
                                                        Member
                                                        • Aug 2000
                                                        • 10808

                                                        #28
                                                        To those who have had problems with htguide.com DNS resolution, try it now and report back if you have any problems.

                                                        We narrowed the problem down to an inter-TLD dependency between htguide.com and matrixav.us. This "ungluing" resulted in extra lookups and extra delays which were causing some ISP's DNS servers to time out. We set up NS records for each domain to resolve this issue. Checkdns.net and dnsstuff.com are reporting passing grades for DNS resolution now, so you should no longer have issues.

                                                        Please post back or email if you do continue to have issues. If you added an entry in your HOSTS file for www.htguide.com, you should be able to remove it now.

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                                                        • Kyle
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                          • 233

                                                          #29
                                                          I'm still having dns issues on nyc roadrunner, as well as at my colocated boxes in texas. I was able to resolve the host @ qwest in nj, and thats how i'm posting now..
                                                          My gear

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                                                          • Kyle
                                                            Senior Member
                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                            • 233

                                                            #30
                                                            Ah, i restarted one of my nameservers and now it resolves -- guess it was cached.
                                                            My gear

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